rodders47 2 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 maybe R. S. has finally seen the light ? He sure is not that competitive where he is so why not give the boss of the team near the bottom a ring to get a drive in 2008? seems even Ralf aint too sure he will be where he is come 2008 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
V12 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Well 2 me i think that Ralf has 3 options on his plate: Resign with Toyota for a third of what he is currently earning (which is reported to be over 20 million dollars) Resign with his former team: Williams for roughly the same amount of money as what Toyota would offer him; which would be about 6 million a year lets say? Final option Retire: for me i have nothing against Ralf but its far to suggest that his best years in formula one are over. His a proven winner and maybe it would be fair to see some new blood in a competitive team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I think he should just retire now. He's had a few good races this season matching the pace of Trulli, but I feel if he stays in F1 much longer he'll just be consistently outperformed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Torro Rosso would be a good move for him. I'm not sure that Vettel has the pace to shine in the team and may not prove as fast as Speed or Liuzzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Retire. Now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 "Ralf rings toro rosso?" I hope they don't answer. We could send him to Nascar, will improve both categories average skill. (Sorry Nascar fans, I couldn't resist!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rumblestrip 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Retire. Now. +1, otherwise he may face the embarrassment of being outpaced by yet another team mate. Poor Ralf. His brother got all the good driving genes, and there was nothing left for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I think the best option is for him to retire. He's been in F1 for 10 years & his place on the grid is usually mid-table for him & Trulli & I don't thin kit's gonna be any better with STR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jez 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Torro Rosso would be a good move for him. I'm not sure that Vettel has the pace to shine in the team and may not prove as fast as Speed or Liuzzi I suppose that's one way Ralf could be dominant against a team mate; though maybe not for long. I think having him make some contributions to the development of a mediocre car is probably his only real option in F1 should Toyota release him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rumble Strip 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 "Ralf rings toro rosso?" I hope they don't answer.We could send him to Nascar, will improve both categories average skill. (Sorry Nascar fans, I couldn't resist!) yeah send him to nascar.... He and montoya can take each other out.... By all accounts, Gerhard Berger has already said no to Ralf but yet has not closed the door on a deal being done in the future.I'm not sure Williams would want him back, which basically narrows down his options somewhat. He's got to hope Toyota wish to resign him in my view. Frank Williams has mentioned he is considering Ralf in his 08 line up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rumble Strip 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 "Ralf rings toro rosso?" I hope they don't answer.We could send him to Nascar, will improve both categories average skill. (Sorry Nascar fans, I couldn't resist!) I actually think Ralf would suck more than most of the NASCAR guys, harder than it looks. I guess we could end up seeing the most hated driver pairing in a long time: Ralf and Nelson Piquet Jr at Williams! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 I actually think Ralf would suck more than most of the NASCAR guys, harder than it looks. I guess we could end up seeing the most hated driver pairing in a long time: Ralf and Nelson Piquet Jr at Williams! Hey we are going to see Ralf and Narain on the grid next year.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 If that happens I'll eat my hat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Well 2 me i think that Ralf has 3 options on his plate:Resign with Toyota for a third of what he is currently earning (which is reported to be over 20 million dollars) Resign with his former team: Williams for roughly the same amount of money as what Toyota would offer him; which would be about 6 million a year lets say? Final option Retire: for me i have nothing against Ralf but its far to suggest that his best years in formula one are over. His a proven winner and maybe it would be fair to see some new blood in a competitive team. Your right V12 they are his options, they are beak to say the least. Torro Rosso would be a good move for him. I'm not sure that Vettel has the pace to shine in the team and may not prove as fast as Speed or Liuzzi Vettel has been in the seat for 2 GP's give him time to adjust to the new car. Retire. Now. I agree, see ya Ralf Even the gay bannana is waving goodbye!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kati 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 I actually think Ralf would suck more than most of the NASCAR guys, harder than it looks. I guess we could end up seeing the most hated driver pairing in a long time: Ralf and Nelson Piquet Jr at Williams! hahahahahahahaha poor Ralf... I like him *a bit*... Actually I also think he'll retire. Williams is in talks with Timo and I think he's more likely to get ths seat. All others seem already gone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Vettel has been in the seat for 2 GP's give him time to adjust to the new car. Quick drivers are quick out of the box. Rosberg, Hamilton, Button, Nando, Webber, Schumi, Senna, Kimi, Nick, Kubica etc. were all very quick from day 1. Vettel is significantly slower than Liuzzi who was very equal in pace with Speed - So, are Torro Rosso going forwards or backwards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 My sentiments, exactly. Toro Rosso kicked Speed who was doing the best he could in a crappy car, now they will do the same with Liuzzi who is just as good. Vettel, meanwhile, still has to prove he is the young marvel everybody says he is. The other two are proven able drivers, why throw their experience and skills away? And this proves that being a good driver in a crappy car certainly doesn't improves your career. I don't think anybody will rush to sign up Liuzzi, even Ralf has more chances. I was about to say that this is sad, but on second thoughts this is more nauseating than sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niall McBride 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 I agree, see ya Ralf Even the gay bannana is waving goodbye!!!! lol A new low for Ralf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Quick drivers are quick out of the box. Rosberg, Hamilton, Button, Nando, Webber, Schumi, Senna, Kimi, Nick, Kubica etc. were all very quick from day 1. Vettel is significantly slower than Liuzzi who was very equal in pace with Speed - So, are Torro Rosso going forwards or backwards Vettel was quick out of the box, do you not remember Indy this year? Here is a reminder: Practice 1: 4th quickest Practice 2: 10th quickest Saturday Practice: 2nd quickest Qualy: 7th - 2 tenths down on Nick Race: 8th - pushing MW & JT to the flag - setting the 6th fastest lap of the GP The STR would be a pig to drive compared to the BMW, lets just give him a minute before we class him as no good or a future Champion. lol A new low for Ralf Back on the topic now - Ralf would be best suited to German Touring Cars he can then get his backside kicked by other ex F1 drivers would have found a nice home in the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Back on the topic now - Ralf would be best suited to German Touring Cars he can then get his backside kicked by other ex F1 drivers would have found a nice home in the series. That would be a great idea for Ralfie to move to DTM which'll erase his rep for good, unless somebody watches Motors TV most of the time, & see how he'll face off with Mika! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2007 That would be a great idea for Ralfie to move to DTM which'll erase his rep for good, unless somebody watches Motors TV most of the time, & see how he'll face off with Mika! I get Motors tv, and I would love to see him get regularly spanked in an 3 year old Audi! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted August 29, 2007 I get Motors tv, and I would love to see him get regularly spanked in an 3 year old Audi!Well I don't have Sky digital so that's a pity! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kati 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2007 hahaha im p*ssed off. i got cable tv now with all tva channels... unfortunately the one w free practices belongs to another cable tv company haha :/ but i was watching le mans this morning, so maybe they still have something interesting for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
