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Congratulations Hamilton you will make Schumi's 7 WDC titles look a joke... This will be your first.

Er, just one thing - what if the fuel was genuinely not right?

After all there has been quite a bit of cheating going on this year :)

Just a thought before all the usual speculation and insult-making gets going....

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I hate the stupid FIA, I hate stupid Hamilton, I hate English people for not understanding my Hate for Hamilton, I hate the English press, I hate being English right now.

Get a life!

It's only a sport - hell's bell's I seriously think some members of these forums need to get out a little more!!!

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Er, just one thing - what if the fuel was genuinely not right?

After all there has been quite a bit of cheating going on this year :)

Just a thought before all the usual speculation and insult-making gets going....

First team cheating was McLaren-Mercedes... Remember?

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Get a life!

It's only a sport - hell's bell's I seriously think some members of these forums need to get out a little more!!!

A life, what's one of those?

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I get out enough thanks. I've hated England for a long time actually. I'm moving to Mittenwald when I get enough money - that's my plan!

EDIT:

Or anywhere away from this bureaucratic money orientated Sh#t hole

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I hate the stupid FIA, I hate stupid Hamilton, I hate English people for not understanding my Hate for Hamilton, I hate the English press, I hate being English right now.

I agree 100%. Utterly ridiculous!

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No idea but Mike Gascoyne, the idiot, thinks they should be both excluded - he should mind his own bloody business, it's not like flipping Spyker are going to gain anything.

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Considering it's BOTH Williams and BMW who are involved in this, it looks like a genuine mistake by Pertonas/Petrobras. Only time will tell.

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any idea when a ruling will be made??? oh dear, oh dear

There will be appealing... McLaren, Ferrari, BMW or Williams will appeal for sure.

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No idea but Mike Gascoyne, the idiot, thinks they should be both excluded - he should mind his own bloody business, it's not like flipping Spyker are going to gain anything.

Agreed- they must stay out of this. It would be so disappointing for it to end like this.......... so sad :nono1::nono1:

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Considering it's BOTH Williams and BMW who are involved in this, it looks like a genuine mistake by Pertonas/Petrobras. Only time will tell.

How could they get it so wrong? Any other teams running with the same fuel supplier?

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How could they get it so wrong? Any other teams running with the same fuel supplier?

Petronas

Petrobras

There is a difference

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But if you think about, BMW and Williams did cheat and should get DQed right... If Mike is right and they did get a performence advantage, they should be punished, even if it means Kimi doesn't win the WDC...

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Petronas

Petrobras

There is a difference

:lol:

What an awesome thread! Honestly to all the people complaining here, I think you should watch another sport. F1 is all about cheating, back room deals and politics. If you don't know that after this season there's no hope for you...

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Considering it's BOTH Williams and BMW who are involved in this, it looks like a genuine mistake by Pertonas/Petrobras. Only time will tell.

if both kubica and heidfeld get disqualified by a mistake of their team then lewis hamilton and alonso have also to lost all his championchip points.

if hamilton become world champion in this way i stop watching f1 from now on i couldnt lose my time watching such a stupid thing.

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Petrobras is the Brazilian supplier version of Petronas which is Malaysian.

They didn't get it THAT wrong, it was a max of 4 degrees wrong for Kubica. Nakajima's was within the limit on his 2nd stop, although he was out by 2 in the first stop.

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Petrobras is the Brazilian supplier version of Petronas which is Malaysian.

They didn't get it THAT wrong, it was a max of 4 degrees wrong for Kubica. Nakajima's was within the limit on his 2nd stop, although he was out by 2 in the first stop.

But it does show they had a preformence advantage... would also explain Nico 4th place....

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if both kubica and heidfeld get disqualified by a mistake of their team then lewis hamilton and alonso have also to lost all his championchip points.

if hamilton become world champion in this way i stop watching f1 from now on i couldnt lose my time watching such a stupid thing.

You're far from the only one to make this kind or error.

When making a decision like this, you have to take many factors into consideration. It is not as simple as you make out.

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BUT BMW Have got no reason to cheat at all, why on earth would they bother? They're a solid 2nd, Heidfeld and Kubica weren't going anywhere in the championships - what on EARTH would be their motivation?

I couldn't agree more - if BMW and Williams are DQ'q then Nando and Hamilton have to be too - if one set was and the other wasn't that would be one of the greatest injustices in F1 ever.

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