zdzisio 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/229218/ Mercurial racing talent Lewis Hamilton might have spent the entire 2007 Formula 1 season breaking records, but he Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Kubica? I can't imagine Lewis is losing much sleep! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 All drivers who have driven, or last drove, in the past couple of decades, by the looks of it. Sort of skews the results somewhat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shampion 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Looking at these pole results, I would love to know just what type of spectators were polled the question... must have been lawn-bowling or field hockey observers... I am not saying LH should be on the list and I agree with "some" of the names on the list, but I think most true racing enthusists would agree ...... Results of this pole ...... gim'me a break Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elizabeth Sterling 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Robert Kubica must account for like 50% of eastern Europe's economy or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Kubica ahead of kimi is for sure suspect. Either monkeys tallied the survey... or the survey was given to monkeys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redfive 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 I dont think he will get the credit he deserves unless he moves to Ferrari - then he will be the next Schumacher in a blink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kati 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 hahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha pathetic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redfive 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 what is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOF_power 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 > ^ Well the list wrong from the start. As a total package Schumacher comes first. As a total driver NOT total package, Fangio is untouchable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zdzisio 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 As a total driver NOT total package, Fangio is untouchable. They were asking F1 *fans*, so I am not very surprised with the overrepresentation of current drivers or drivers fans might at least remember watching. Not surprised with Kubica's position also: despite the overall point result, he took part in the most spectacular *on_track* events of past season - Montreal crush and rain battle with Massa. I guess his overtaking on *both* Heidfeld and Rosberg is quite high on youtube also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 They were asking F1 *fans*, so I am not very surprised with the overrepresentation of current drivers or drivers fans might at least remember watching. Not surprised with Kubica's position also: despite the overall point result, he took part in the most spectacular *on_track* events of past season - Montreal crush and rain battle with Massa. I guess his overtaking on *both* Heidfeld and Rosberg is quite high on youtube also. just a question! Was this survey taken in Poland? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dribbler 6 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 I don't see how Lewis could be considered one of the greatest anyway, not on the strength of one season. Ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 All this shows is that a lot of F1 'fans' know bollocks all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zdzisio 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 just a question!Was this survey taken in Poland? I'm sure it wasn't. In that case Robert wouldn't be 5th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 I'm sure it wasn't. In that case Robert wouldn't be 5th. Kubica shouldn't even be on the list Alain Prost 8th I rest my case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shampion 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Kubica shouldn't even be on the list Alain Prost 8th I rest my case Yeah.. maybe just me but I consider myself a bit of a racing enthusist and this poll seems a "little skewed" Subjects must have been a little biased or very ignorant (especially about past F1 drivers) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z2z 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 5th: Mika Hakkinen and Robert Kubica, 7th: Kimi Raikkonen and tie for 5th position Anyways topic title is catchy and of course he isn't the greatest f1 driver yet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 The biggest omissions are Clark and Fangio, some people need to study up on their F1 knowledge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 HAHAHAHAHA!!!! IN YOUR FACE!!! Isn't it funny, that everyone complaining about results of this survey is a fan of a driver NOT in the top 10! I TOLD you, you self-appointed experts, that Kubica's fan base is HUGE! He was adopted by virtually the entire eastern Europe as their own. Hamilton is not there because only Brits think he is wonderful. He has talent, but his histrionics and whining turned off most of his former fans. Given a competitive car, Kubica would outdrive Hamilton any time. The F1 pundits are so one sided and, frankly, clueless is laughable. I can train a monkey to look at the stats and come up with the "best" driver based on the times and placing alone. But a monkey (and a lot of those self-appointed experts) forget that there is more to any driver than the stats. Which is what I have been trying to tell you for a year, but got shot down every time. Well, go back and wallow in your own satisfaction that you simply know better than millions of people out there. The conceeded, caustic, sardonic, and whiny tone of that article is precious. ooooooooh, I am SOOOO sorry your favorites didn't get in. no Hami, no Rambo, Oh, for all those of you who questions these results, ING asked 8,500 people. Thats 6 times more than a standard US presidential poll, which usually consists of about 1,500 respondents and has about 1%-3% margin of error. Now, if the poll showed Kovalainen or other past or present Renault or French drivers ruling the world of F1, I would question the results. But it does not, in general terms. If any one of you have any real scientific (as opposed to the fact that the results clash with your own beliefs) reason why that poll is NOT correct, please, feel free to show me your proof. If not, just shut up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KoolMonkey 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 The title of that survey is the stupid thing. It has nothing to do with greatness, only who has the most votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bani_f1 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 Lewis the greatest.. joke of the millenium.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bro. 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 Yeah no Mention of Fernando, not in the survey and no-one has mentioned him in the forum so far. Even Gilles Villeneuve, Ronnie Peterson Alan Jones and Mark Webber in the forum have not been mentioned yet either so far. We should not pick on Lewis not making this list because he does join a long list of brillant drivers and BTW multiple world champions who deserve to be there in this list. so................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bro. 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 No offence Zdzisio the topic starter Lewis is not the greatest is a silly topic headline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redfive 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 HAHAHAHAHA!!!! IN YOUR FACE!!! Isn't it funny, that everyone complaining about results of this survey is a fan of a driver NOT in the top 10! I TOLD you, you self-appointed experts, that Kubica's fan base is HUGE! He was adopted by virtually the entire eastern Europe as their own. Hamilton is not there because only Brits think he is wonderful. He has talent, but his histrionics and whining turned off most of his former fans. Given a competitive car, Kubica would outdrive Hamilton any time. The F1 pundits are so one sided and, frankly, clueless is laughable. I can train a monkey to look at the stats and come up with the "best" driver based on the times and placing alone. But a monkey (and a lot of those self-appointed experts) forget that there is more to any driver than the stats. Which is what I have been trying to tell you for a year, but got shot down every time. Well, go back and wallow in your own satisfaction that you simply know better than millions of people out there. The conceeded, caustic, sardonic, and whiny tone of that article is precious. ooooooooh, I am SOOOO sorry your favorites didn't get in. no Hami, no Rambo, Oh, for all those of you who questions these results, ING asked 8,500 people. Thats 6 times more than a standard US presidential poll, which usually consists of about 1,500 respondents and has about 1%-3% margin of error. Now, if the poll showed Kovalainen or other past or present Renault or French drivers ruling the world of F1, I would question the results. But it does not, in general terms. If any one of you have any real scientific (as opposed to the fact that the results clash with your own beliefs) reason why that poll is NOT correct, please, feel free to show me your proof. If not, just shut up. Not a very gracious reply Share this post Link to post Share on other sites