Eric 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 Run the USGP in Canada or Mexico. I like their tracks better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elizabeth Sterling 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 I admit Mexico city was a good track but going there is NOT a good idea. When NASCAR go down there they have to travel with armed escorts in large convoys and Roberto Moreno famously commented that if you want fresh air you stay trackside, not to mention the constant reports of gunshots around the perimeter of the circuit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 I admit Mexico city was a good track but going there is NOT a good idea. When NASCAR go down there they have to travel with armed escorts in large convoys and Roberto Moreno famously commented that if you want fresh air you stay trackside, not to mention the constant reports of gunshots around the perimeter of the circuit... I see where you're coming from, but F1 also has a race in Sao Paulo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elizabeth Sterling 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 The Sau Paulo event is safe compared to Mexico city. Sadly said venue is set around one of the two most overcrowded cities in the world and crime and pollution are off the scale. Plus they've butchered the track since its glory days in the 1990s unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 According to the CIA Factbook: Murders w/firearms (per 100,000 people) Mexico: 3.38 USA: 2.9 UK: 1.1 Rapes: Mx: 12.3 USA: 30.13 UK: 14.21 Total Crimes: Mx: 1284.06 USA: 8006.44 UK: 8555.17 Now Mexico doesn't sound that bad, does it? And no, they don't do the hat dance in every corner and they do not think donkeys are state of the art public transport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elizabeth Sterling 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 According to the CIA Factbook:Murders w/firearms (per 100,000 people) Mexico: 3.38 USA: 2.9 UK: 1.1 Rapes: Mx: 12.3 USA: 30.13 UK: 14.21 Total Crimes: Mx: 1284.06 USA: 8006.44 UK: 8555.17 Now Mexico doesn't sound that bad, does it? And no, they don't do the hat dance in every corner and they do not think donkeys are state of the art public transport. Mexico CITY. Do NOT try and act like I'm being bigoted just because I make comments about a city that happens to be dangerously overpopulated. My nan grew up on a peasant farm in civil war era Spain, okay? Don't even try that s##t. The overall crime and safety situation in Mexico varies widely depending upon location. The State Department's Critical Crime Threat Level for Mexico City, however, continues to be well deserved. Armed robberies, taxicab express kidnappings, car thefts, carjackings and various forms of kidnapping continue. The latest statistics from government sources indicate that crime rates in most major categories in Mexico City have leveled off over the past two years. Still, in the categories of murder, rape and robbery, Mexico's Distrito Federal posts 3 to 4 times the incidence of these crimes than does New York City, greater Los Angeles or Washington, D.C. http://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=43999 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 According to the CIA Factbook:Murders w/firearms (per 100,000 people) Mexico: 3.38 USA: 2.9 UK: 1.1 Rapes: Mx: 12.3 USA: 30.13 UK: 14.21 Total Crimes: Mx: 1284.06 USA: 8006.44 UK: 8555.17 Now Mexico doesn't sound that bad, does it? And no, they don't do the hat dance in every corner and they do not think donkeys are state of the art public transport. But they are reliable Andres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 I see where you're coming from, but F1 also has a race in Sao Paulo... Yeah. Katy is dangerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 They do not think donkeys are state of the art public transport. Talk about uneducated! The donkey is the epitome of public transportation. Man, it's unfair. In my society, people can't ride F1 cars in a nation if they aren't allowed to ride donkeys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 Mexico CITY. Do NOT try and act like I'm being bigoted just because I make comments about a city that happens to be dangerously overpopulated. My nan grew up on a peasant farm in civil war era Spain, okay? Don't even try that s##t.http://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=43999 I withdraw my innuendos of biggotry. You are right, sentiments clouded my judgement. However, I insist. Mexico has rampant levels of crime (yes, MEXICO D.F.) but I felt less safe at Times Square than around the Zocalo. Is Mexico dangerous? Yes. Is it so awful that a GP could not be held there? Nope. Like I said, New York has a huge crime rate. England is fourth among the top 20 developed countries with highest crime rates. Plus, the risk of terrorist attacks is higher in UK and USA (or France, or Spain) than in Mexico. If those countries can have a GP, why not Mexico? You don't need to make a new circuit in the middle of the most dangerous zones. You can use the old track (if it is still there) and put some security around. As for the civil war era Spain bit, I didn't get it. So no, I won't try that s##t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 I withdraw my innuendos of biggotry. You are right, sentiments clouded my judgement.However, I insist. Mexico has rampant levels of crime (yes, MEXICO D.F.) but I felt less safe at Times Square than around the Zocalo. Is Mexico dangerous? Yes. Is it so awful that a GP could not be held there? Nope. Like I said, New York has a huge crime rate. England is fourth among the top 20 developed countries with highest crime rates. Plus, the risk of terrorist attacks is higher in UK and USA (or France, or Spain) than in Mexico. If those countries can have a GP, why not Mexico? You don't need to make a new circuit in the middle of the most dangerous zones. You can use the old track (if it is still there) and put some security around. As for the civil war era Spain bit, I didn't get it. So no, I won't try that s##t. Except most countries in Africa and probably a few places in the Middle East, the rest is pretty safe to have a GP... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elizabeth Sterling 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 I withdraw my innuendos of biggotry. You are right, sentiments clouded my judgement.However, I insist. Mexico has rampant levels of crime (yes, MEXICO D.F.) but I felt less safe at Times Square than around the Zocalo. Is Mexico dangerous? Yes. Is it so awful that a GP could not be held there? Nope. Like I said, New York has a huge crime rate. England is fourth among the top 20 developed countries with highest crime rates. Plus, the risk of terrorist attacks is higher in UK and USA (or France, or Spain) than in Mexico. If those countries can have a GP, why not Mexico? You don't need to make a new circuit in the middle of the most dangerous zones. You can use the old track (if it is still there) and put some security around. As for the civil war era Spain bit, I didn't get it. So no, I won't try that s##t. That's okay, I really do hate stereotyping but the reality is Mexico City is a dangerous place simple due to it having more people than it can handle. A new circuit would be an interesting prospect I suppose, I just can't see them going back to their old haunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 Except most countries in Africa and probably a few places in the Middle East, the rest is pretty safe to have a GP... I disagree. A street race in Camden, New Jersey, would not be safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandyNZL 1 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 I disagree. A street race in Camden, New Jersey, would not be safe. Pit stops would be pretty fast affairs though....one second Kimi pulls up, the next he's sitting on his a## in his boxers with everything else chopped and converted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckheadschleife 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 Pit stops would be pretty fast affairs though....one second Kimi pulls up, the next he's sitting on his a## in his boxers with everything else chopped and converted Don't forget that his windshield would also be clean. The locals would have a tough time making sense of the matte black wheel covers - the antithesis of bling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 According to the CIA Factbook:Murders w/firearms (per 100,000 people) Mexico: 3.38 USA: 2.9 UK: 1.1 Rapes: Mx: 12.3 USA: 30.13 UK: 14.21 Total Crimes: Mx: 1284.06 USA: 8006.44 UK: 8555.17 Now Mexico doesn't sound that bad, does it? And no, they don't do the hat dance in every corner and they do not think donkeys are state of the art public transport. Andres, I got curious after I read this, as that murder w/firearm seemed high for the UK. So I did a bit of digging and found that there were 57 murders in England & Wales using firearms in 2005/2006, the same as the previous year and 49 in 2006/2007. That's 49 for nearly approx 54m people. I can't imagine the remaining 6m people all being homicidal gun wielding maniacs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 Don't forget that his windshield would also be clean. The locals would have a tough time making sense of the matte black wheel covers - the antithesis of bling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 I can't imagine the remaining 6m people all being homicidal gun wielding maniacs So you've not been to Birmingham then? (sorry Brummies, only joking) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 So you've not been to Birmingham then? (sorry Brummies, only joking) Well, I am not going to go now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 England is fourth among the top 20 developed countries with highest crime rates. Yes, but the UK's nannying Governments have made so many things illegal, that 90% of them are not serious e.g. it is illegal to eat a mince pie on Christmas Day in England (seriously). It is, however perfectly legal to shoot a Scotsman in the city of York with a bow and arrow (again not a word of a lie). Plus, the risk of terrorist attacks is higher in UK and USA (or France, or Spain) than in Mexico. True, but then Mexico has slightly more serious "nature", such as volcanoes, big earthquakes, etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted April 2, 2008 Yes, but the UK's nannying Governments have made so many things illegal, that 90% of them are not serious e.g. it is illegal to eat a mince pie on Christmas Day in England (seriously). It is, however perfectly legal to shoot a Scotsman in the city of York with a bow and arrow (again not a word of a lie). There were some good ones in the list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2008 I more than understand that, but a company can only spend just so much on advertising in one particular nation, and this would count as American advertising, and the goal of American advertising is to get American customers.And Piotr, I really don't care. I like the sports I like, you like the sports you like, and I don't care. Understood, I just wanted to point out to you, that there may be a completely opposing point of view. Americans tend to be very provoncial, with a touch of egocentrism. Most cannot perceive that to the most people on Earth the "American" sports are very boring. But, yes, you like what you like, etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites