nichosnz 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2002 What about the pass Massa pulled out over Trulli. Pushy and a little raw but it worked. Can't help thinking if it had been Schu vs Juan, then whichever one of them had been in Trulli's shoes wouldn't have backed off, and taken them both out of the race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2002 yeah it was a good move from a rookie. if it was schumi it would off been a crash if it was juan it probly would have been a crash too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotalF1 Jens 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2002 Nice moves from that guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2002 Everyone made such a big deal about the JPM move on MS at Brazil last year but I thought this move left it for dead. I wonder if that same move by JPM was to take Trulli then would have it made the same impact? Massa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2002 Everyone made such a big deal about the JPM move on MS at Brazil last year but I thought this move left it for dead. I wonder if that same move by JPM was to take Trulli then would have it made the same impact? Exactly Brazil 2001 is just revered because in was Schu being passed. Like Spa 2000 (Hakkinen passed Schu) it was a very good pass, better than Montoya's one, yet still I feel it was over-rated. I feel most passes on Schumacher are over-rated just because of his success. People think wow Schu got passed must be the best pass ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jagman 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2002 Yes, it was a sweet move, but it could have just as easily ended in tears. I also think that overtakling Schuey is a big thing, it hardly ever happens so when it does it is something to watch and get excited about. When JPM took Schuey at Brzail in 2001, he was in his third race (I believe) of his F1 career. Now if you think about it, it is pretty special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2002 I agree overtaking MS isn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2002 I also think that overtakling Schuey is a big thing, it hardly ever happens so when it does it is something to watch and get excited about. I wasn't trying to say it wasn't a big thing, it is big, but people portray it as even bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1Babe 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2002 An amazing move for a Rookie. I bet Jean Todt took note of that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotalF1 Jens 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 As did Rubens Barrichello, as it will be his car Massa will be driving next year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 Do you think Ferrari will use young talent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotalF1 Jens 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 Yes, I think they could be in to try it. Unless they want to promote Badoer or Burti (tough chance) to race driver... Peter Sauber has already said that Ferrari can have Massa if they want him. I think Nick Heidfeld would be keen to go there if he could, just to laugh in Mclaren's face. But then, hes contracted to Mclaren... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 no andrew i was a great rookie move a careless move if he wasn't a rookie. if trulli hadn't moved outside around the corner massa would off taken em both out of the race i think great work on trulli's part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1Babe 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 Do you think Ferrari will use young talent? I know Ferrari don't use take on young guns, but i think they might risk it this time as they lost Raikkonen to McLaren last time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotalF1 Jens 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 Thats exactly what I was thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 If Ferrari take young blood they should do it for next year, as it's better to take the risk whist they still have their hands on an established star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotalF1 Jens 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2002 True. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaySchumi 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2002 A little credit to Jarno is in order, in retrospect he could've tried to close the door at the last minute, but forebore from doing so. Of course full points to Massa for making the most of a situation. And now for the ever-present emoticon, I always put at least one in my posts : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2002 Massa will have a truck load more experience from this year as well making him much more attractive (assuming he performs). You wouldn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2002 Do you think that could be why Peter Sauber turned his back on his previous policy of always employing experienced drivers like Alesi, Diniz, Herbert, Salo etc. Besides if he can spot them young guns are cheap, if they are good enough you get offered 5 Mercedes tranporters and a huge wad of cash, how can you resist. If they don't work out it's not like you've paid them an Alesi sized pay packet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaySchumi 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2002 Yeah, the pay is a definite advantage, Massa only makes half a million, by far the least, but certainly comes in the top 10 when it comes to effort. As far as making the least, I meant people who're paid, Yoong probably pays to drive, so he doesn't count Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2002 I don't think Yoong actually pays to drive, sponsors do however, meaning he has a 'budget' to negotiate with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotalF1 Jens 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2002 You know, the phrase "only makes half a million" still hits me. How can people say ONLY?! Thats a big wad of cash! Sure compare it to Villeneuve's 10 million or Schumi's 22 its not a lot but still... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nichosnz 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2002 Only half a million is a lot mre than JV's dad and Clark probably got, and they were in more dangerous times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daz 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2002 Ain't that true. In those days a half million was probably some teams entire yearly budget. But yeah you're right Jens - a half million is a serious wad of cash!! If I convert that to my currency I could retire very easily (And thats not a joke!). So anybody out there got a miserly half mil to donate to a worthy retirement fund?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites