Arrows bought!

[daz 0]

Thats a cool idea. Pity that its probably the smaller teams that can least afford to run a 3rd car though.

As for Arrows - I agree that thats them done for. They've played around long enough now & I think its time the FIA took some seriuos action against them. At the moment they're just making a farce out of F1.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Well I think the Concorde Agreement would be revised to allow for the full 27, but not 30.

[nichosnz 0]

I agree daz, I wanted Arrows back, but now I don't. Just drop 2002 and leave it alone guys, If you really want to come back to F1 concentrate on the car (and the raising money for new team entry fee) for 2003.

Even Phoenix gave up (at lest in the public eye) eventually. Jens do you know if they are still interested in entering in 2003. Asiatech are aiming for 2004, are they want to buy their way in or enter as a new team.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

To be honest Phoenix just suddenly went mute. I haven't heard a thing about them since I think the Austrian GP when they were bidding for 2003. Asiatech I think is looking at a whole new team, but may be there to take over Arrows if they go under.

[nichosnz 0]

There is certainly a bit of interest in the grid slots of Arrows and Prost, the RedBull all American team, Carl whatzit, Asiatech, and (maybe) still Phoenix. So those four could pair up and create 2 new teams.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

True, and isn't 26 the max amount of cars on a grid, meaning that three new teams could join F1.

[nichosnz 0]

26 is historically the maximum but after the Lola affair the FIA planned to (and I assume did) pass a 12 team limit. So 26 cars would only be allowed if there were more than 2 cars in some teams.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Good thing too, because Lola was just embarrasing. No other words to use, I was embarrased for the team when I watched them <_

[nichosnz 0]

At least they didn't hang around saying we will improved just give us a chance. Very similar idea to what Arrows will be saying if they try to turn up again this year.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

I was glad to see Lola go, but probably a lot of sponsors and so forth werent too pleased.

[nichosnz 0]

The biggest sponsorship coup was Mastercard so Eddie (Mr Shrewd) Jordan approached and signed them as soon as Lola F1 campaign collapsed.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Thats true, I remember Mastercard had some ad campaigns with the car and slogan something like "Fastest to the Future" or something. Doesnt really seem that way..

[nichosnz 0]

Hahahahahahaha!!!

Hindsight they say is 20/20, but I think sometimes hindsight is absolutely hilarious.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Ironic isnt it? Mastercard could really do with an F1 ad campaign with a team like Minardi: Chassis $500,000, driver pay $3,000,000, engines $8,000,000, qualifying within 107% - priceless.

:D

[nichosnz 0]

Yes, I think that would be quite amusing.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

There were some good F1related commercials before in 98 with DC and Mika. You can still download them from the Mclaren site I believe.

[nichosnz 0]

And the Micheal Schumacher L'oreal ads and Murray Walker/Damon Hill Pizza Hutt ads.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

OMG I laughed so hard when I saw the MS L'oreal ads the first time. Especially when they dubbed them over in Finnish, LOL!!!

[nichosnz 0]

I haven't actually seen them just heard about them, even though we do get L'oreal in NZ. The Walker/Hill Pizza Hutt ones were shown though. Some of the MS Fiat ones have been shown as a 'special' on the F1 coverage program also, as well as one or two of the MH/DC ones.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

The Fiat commercial with Schumi in the crowded streets is a good one, I love it when the guy looks out of his car window to see Schumi in the F399 to his left

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Another good one which advertised the British GP had Schumacher taking a drivers test and passed it with full score, and as he steps out of the car he opens the door right into the path of a bicyclist and fails. Solution? Drive a car with no doors! It was great

[nichosnz 0]

Very good I haven't seen those ones but there is one where MS pulls up to a petrol station in his F1 car, looks around no 22+ man service team so he gets out and fills up himself. as he is doing so a Fiat pulls up and 22 pit members run out of the building to attend to the Fiat.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Thats one of my favorites, you can see it in Finland often as Fiat trying to sell better there.

[nichosnz 0]

I've not seen any adds in NZ for My car or it successor, I've seen them for the 2 series and the 3 series but not the 4.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

How is Peugeot doing in NZ? Id imagine with their rally succes that theyd be doing pretty good considering NZ has its own rally..