Arrows bought!

[nichosnz 0]

Quite good I think, I see more of them that any other similarly priced, non-Ford-Holden-Jappa cars.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Peugeot sells extremely well in Finland thanks to Marcus Gronholm's and Harri Rovanpera's rally success, while Subaru sales are expected to rise when the company gets things sorted out in Finland.

[nichosnz 0]

Rally and Touring cars are great was to sell cars to people. Because they are similar to the cars that you or I can buy and drive on the public roading system. And people can see that and the visual resemblance too.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

I think Rally does it better though, as it really looks more like the car you can get from the dealer. Touring cars have all the aerodynamic parts while Rally cars are much more stock on the outside, and also shows what real reliability is!

[nichosnz 0]

And what the cars look like if you roll them down a bank.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Hahahaha!

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Topic related, Arrows will not race in Indy, Coswroth confirmed this today.

[nichosnz 0]

Not suprised.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

I expect they will announce their insolvency soon, this is the general thought going around everywhere right now.

[nichosnz 0]

Not befoe time to it has been obvious for a long while.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Reports say that the workers at the teams base in Leafield have not been present for weeks and the only people there are the office workers.

[nichosnz 0]

Hope they don't have trouble finding jobs.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Shouldn't be too big of a problem, anyone with experience in putting together an F1 car should find similar kinds of jobs in motorsport somewhere.

[nichosnz 0]

If there are jobs going, I am told this recession is worldwide.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

I was thinking in the way that motorsports teams would be interested in getting proffesionals that have worked in F1, they are the best of the best mechanics probably.

[daz 0]

Definitely about time they closed shop at Arrows... I'm annoyed at how they've wasted all our time.

I also feel sorry for the staff, and hope they can find employment. As for Tom Walkinshaw though - I hope he never gets the opportunity to come back into F1!!

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Walkinshaw has done good things in F1, but his recent actions with Arrows are definitely the exact opposite. I hope Phoenix rises from the flames, they have really gone mute since Imola.

[nichosnz 0]

It is very infuriating, my initial reaction is like that of daz - "I hope he never gets the opportunity to come back into F1!!", but on thinking about it I agree with Jens - " Walkinshaw has done good things in F1".

So I hope he returns but in a role purely running the team or an area of the team, no control or input over the ownership or similar issues of the team.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

He has had way too much power over Arrows because TWR have helped the team out in several cases. If he is back in F1 someday, Im hoping he has an assistant or is assistant teamboss or something like that, make sure there is someone smart around him at all times.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Arrows will likely miss the rest of the season. Indy is already a logistical impossibility, while the team doesnt expect to race at Suzuka either. The factory is closed down and everyone is at home except a few key members trying their best to help Walkinshaw sell the team.

[nichosnz 0]

There are leaked reports in several countries that back up what you say about Indy, and what you suggest about Suzuka.

At least we know this time round.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Yep, Im constantly on the phone to Finland and people I know in England.

[nichosnz 0]

You must have a big phone bill.

[TotalF1 Jens 0]

Not really, we have some kind of international deal and usually its them calling me

[nichosnz 0]

Oh that is just as well then.