Planetf1 Winners & Losers

[foxtrot023 0]

You're absolutely right, its not FA's fault the mclarens kept breaking down, Alonso didnt do anything wrong at all, and I admit its true he was always the one who was there to pick up the points. But my point all along is just that some of his wins only came because a mclaren had a problem. Thats mclarens fault and for this reason I believe alonso had alot of good luck this year. More simply, if no cars broke down at all this year alonso would not be world champion - he didnt fight for his wins, he just capitalised on mclaren retirements. But yes he was very consistent and his win in china was a brilliant win, not gifted at all!

Look, let

[Senna 0]

True, but Alonso had to be in a position to capitalize on Kimi

[foxtrot023 0]

Ergo you agree with me that, in a sense, Alonso was lucky in 2005 although of course he drove fantastically well throughout the season and deserved to win, considering the circumstances.

yes, except that for me it wasn

[Senna 0]

yes, except that for me it wasn