Ruslan

2021 Rule Changes

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Well, Liberty, with approval from FIA, has issued out the new 2021 regulations. It includes a $175 budget cap (not including engines, principles salaries, driver salaries and marketing costs) and aerodynamic rule tweaks by Ross Brawn. I gather the teams have to approve them. I am assuming that Liberty has done their leg work and that will not be an issue.

So, looks like we got something new for 2021. It is a step forward, although not entirely all the steps I would have taken. Still, looks like progress. We shall see how this all plays out.

 

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In contrast to Ruslan, I will need time to digest all. I've began reading some articles, only to quit shortly after, loosing desire to know more. Cutting on testing, be it on track, in wind-tunnel, or in CFD for me suggest that we might experience 2014 disaster all over again. People who will get it wrong will carry wounded design for ages, and for what? So Williams and alike can stay in the sport they cannot afford? 

To say I hate all of this is probably immature way to express my feeling the morning after, but I will need some time (a few months, if ever) return back to this new deal. 

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Well, now that they have a budget cap, I also think they should have unlimited testing. For some reason, they still don't grasp the idea that putting in the budget cap allows you to free up restrictions elsewhere.

These rules are incremental changes. I would have done something far more than what they have done...but at least they are now heading in the right direction, as it is clear that the F1 has been heading in the wrong direction for the last two decades. 

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You were always "promising" transactional trade-off, install budget for unrestricted (within reason) environment. I am absolutely aghast over what they are planning, not to say that "my man", Brawn, somebody I respected for decades, however today I don't know who he is anymore, nor have any desire to hear from him any time soon. Sham, 25 races, and less development. Cars will be developed on Sundays afternoon on a racing track...

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Well, if I was in charge....I could "promise" stuff.....but they have not put me in charge. If I was, I would do things a little different. That said, they also have to read a compromise with the ten teams, which I gather they did.

I suspect the changes you have proposed over the years would not be supported by more than three teams, if that.

 

 

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My "radical" ideas (no pun intended) - well, just as in your case - are just mine, however they make sense in series in which there is no Tier 2 group. (In your concept there is no Tier 1 group.) In terms of numbers, teams have to hold a line for public perception of solidarity. It is a compromised situation in sport which lives by extremes; you see dichotomy in that? As a technical man who has spend chunk of his life supporting auto-industry, I've always had a budget, I've always experienced plans which didn't pan out as research into technical future requires among others some empirical work with no guarantees outcome. Failures in research are part of the progress, as someone said long time before me, yet F1 is now going to be forbidden to fail because of what...limiting budget?

To make long story short, call me pessimist over plans Liberty revealed. It has not escaped my attention as Brawn already was in a hurry to tell media how teams will be punished (Brits seems to be great in speeches of this kind), if they go over budget limit. It also hasn't escaped to me, and I doubt that I am alone, that the same man was silent about what a team will have to do in September, if they run out of money and cars were smashed in accidents. There are tonnes of questions one could ask during scrutiny sessions, but I gather all of those would end up in an Inbox, unopened. From where I sit, as with commencement of hybrid era in 2010, there is more hope than common sense. I am sorry Ross, but that's how this fan sees it.  I cannot say (yet) that F1 is dying, but surely it is on the path to emulate IRL (and NASCAR). Wolff was worry about F1 DNA. Right, but it is too late for that. E-series owners must be pleased over their future membership.

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7 hours ago, Sakae said:

My "radical" ideas (no pun intended) - well, just as in your case - are just mine, however they make sense in series in which there is no Tier 2 group. (In your concept there is no Tier 1 group.)

I like the racing in the days when you could have 7 different teams and 11 different drivers win in a season....when you went to a race and you actually did not know who the only one or two drivers were that could win. The last 20 years have been an abomination:

1999-2008: Ferrari wins constructors championship 8 out of 10 seasons. Schumacher piles up the records.

2009: Brawn wins it with a clever cheat that gives him an advantage for a half-season.

2010-2013: Red Bull wins it four seasons in a row. Vettel piles up the records.

2014-2019: Mercedes wins it six seasons in a row. Hamilton piles up the records.

Really.....this is a good racing series?

 

 

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Historical record as you presented IMO is taken out of context. In the past, anyone could upgrade their car in very liberal regulatory environment within 3 months, and match Ferrari in every turn. McLaren in fact was a such case, just as Williams were. Schumacher collected trophies while fully exposed to rivals on the level playing field.

In contrast, it has taken 5 years to two teams (Ferrari and Honda) to match Mercedes in their engine departments, while Hamilton had only one rival to content with, his teammate, and even that is in question how much real competition was going on, because there was time as soon as Rosberg got ahead, screaming began how "unfairly" car 44 is being treated. All is on the record. 

Back to current competitiveness, cluster of cars (6) are not too far apart in performance. We are seeing fraction of a second. Aero however do need change permitting car to get closer and stay stable. Rest is on tires. It is insane to design the car first, and then tire-man shows up, and team learns in last dying moments about thermal issues and mismatch between body design and tire's thermal optimal window. That technicality has nothing much to do with budget, as with convoluted regulatory system. Putting cart in the front of a horse is just about fitting. Tire for next season should be handed to the teams in August/September in preceding year.

They aren't going to do that, however normally aspirated engine with unrestricted fuel flow would probably provide better show, decrease size of the engineering team (and associated cost), and put driver in driving seat more so, than he is today. I have evolved on this issue, and change my mind. Hybrids carry more negativity than pluses.

Hamilton is right on one point (for the change), that is, 16 races is enough.

 

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GP247

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Ferrari CEO Louis Camilleri has confirmed that his team is a long way from being ready to sign up for the 2021 Formula 1 World Championship and beyond.

We reported this week that although the 2021 rules have now been announced, the teams are not committed beyond 2020 until they sign a new Concorde Agreement.

That's what I thought. Liberty might be building new F1, but will anyone like it? Stay tune as a cliche goes.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/701000/Jacques_Villeneuve_lashes_out_at_budget_cap_Its_pure_socialism/

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Speaking to Journal de Montreal, the former Williams driver said: "What is the idea of helping the little ones who do not deserve it? Does an organization like Williams, he wonders, have the right to go as fast as Mercedes or Ferrari? The answer is no, obviously.

Sounds like Jacques is on the same page with me (echoing the same for years).

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