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TOYOTA: FIA MUST SLOW V10S

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Toyota's engine technical director Luca Marmorini has warned that the proposed rules to regulate the power of three-litre V10 engines in 2006 do not go far enough.

The Italian has joined a growing list of engine experts, including Honda Racing president Yasuhiro Wada, who are concerned that the new wave of 2.4-litre V8 engines could be out-gunned by the old restricted motors.

The FIA allowed the use of V10s in 2006 to help the privateer teams that didn't have the finance to run the new engines, but now that Minardi has been sold to Red Bull this problem no longer exists.

"On the basis of the experimentations carried out so far, it's estimated that with the FIA-imposed limitation to V10 engines - that is a 77mm air intake and revs limited to 16,700rpm - these engines can reach a power output of around 800 horsepower," Marmorini told Autosport, after Toyota's customer team reported that V10s had a distinct advantage in a recent back-to-back test.

"Honestly, I don't think any of the current V8 engines can reach levels similar to these."

Scuderia Toro Rosso could therefore start the season with a distinct power advantage if it is allowed to run restricted V10 engines in the current configuration.

"This way Toro Rosso would have an unfair advantage, and I understand other teams being worried," added Marmorini.

The FIA has made it clear that it reserves the right to amend the restrictions at any time if it feels that the V10 engines display a clear advantage.

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:D Considering they are running most likly a Minardi tub I don't think they'll have an advantage..........

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the chassi wasnt that bad it was the engine and even that wasnt bad, it just never had the money do develope the years pacage much further than small tweaks, minardi were always the closest to the rest at the begining

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:D Considering they are running most likly a Minardi tub I don't think they'll have an advantage..........

From what ive heard STR will most likely have a RB1 chassis and modify it sufficiently so it is considered to be there own. Sauber did the same thing afew years ago with a Ferrari chassis so i know it can be done.

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Ive found this story on sportnetwork.net

STR1 to be Unveiled in March

Scuderia Toro Rosso, the team formerly known as Minardi, will follow Minardi's lead in launching their new car just before the season opening grand prix.

The new car, dubbed the STR1, will be unveiled in Bahrain this March. It is expected to be an evolution of Red Bull Racing's 2005 RB1, and will likely be fitted with a Cosworth V10 powerplant. The team got a much later start on their new car than most of their rivals as Red Bull only took possession of the team in mid-November.

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Life isn't fair!

While Mr. Speed would benefit, I can't see this percieved advantage lasting more than the opening round before the FIA nueters it...........

I hope they put an end to this dishonourable conduct, on the part of Red Bull, before the opening round. RBR should not stand to benefit from underhand activity. Minardi were graciously allowed to keep restricted V10s but RBR are in quite a different position to that of Minardi.

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I hope they put an end to this dishonourable conduct, on the part of Red Bull, before the opening round.

Never goign to happen. Even if STR sighed a contract with Cosworth or Ferrari for their new V8 engine it wouldnt be ready for the first round. Things like this take 6 months because neither Cosworth or Ferrari are in the position to create new engines that quickly.

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Never goign to happen. Even if STR sighed a contract with Cosworth or Ferrari for their new V8 engine it wouldnt be ready for the first round. Things like this take 6 months because neither Cosworth or Ferrari are in the position to create new engines that quickly.

i think he meant making the v10 regs more stringent

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i think he meant making the v10 regs more stringent

Indeed.....................

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I hope they put an end to this dishonourable conduct, on the part of Red Bull, before the opening round. RBR should not stand to benefit from underhand activity. Minardi were graciously allowed to keep restricted V10s but RBR are in quite a different position to that of Minardi.

Indeed, Red Bull should have done the honourable thing long ago and run Cosworth V8s instead of V10s. This disgraceful situation can ofcourse be predominantly blamed on Paul Stoddart, who despite being about to sell the team, brought in this ruling by his underhanded tactics.

Never goign to happen. Even if STR sighed a contract with Cosworth or Ferrari for their new V8 engine it wouldnt be ready for the first round.

They could easily have it done in time for the first race, its engine development that takes time, not making another identical one. And it is not too hard to shoehorn a V8 onto a V10 chassis as most teams have done for the winter testing.

Str are holding out and not getting V8s for a simple reason - running last year's Minardi (or even RB) chassis, they are going to be in no position to score points on merit. Their only hope is if due to engine unreliability and other factors, in some race many cars go out, they can score points. That is why they'd rather have the bulletproof Cosworth engine than a development V8 from Cosworth. Running at 16500, they could perhaps use the same engine all season, and also they will probably be paying next to nothing, so more money to put into the main team.

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Indeed, Red Bull should have done the honourable thing long ago and run Cosworth V8s instead of V10s.

dont williams have exclusive use of cosworth v8's

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They do but I doubt if they would have been averse to another team using the same engine - most test mileage and a larger engine development budget. Cosworth's budget is woefully inadequate compared to the manufacturers.

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