Button Tips Renault And Ferrari

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Amazing coming from you "the Alonso banisher"

Thats different - I dont say that Alonso is crap and not any good - I just maintain that he had way too much good fortune in 2005, rather than actually earning it by beating opponents on the track.

This guy is basing his entire judgement on the basis that Button hasnt won a race yet. So really his name should be Montoya fan - hates Button, Webber, Klien, Monteiro, Liuzzi, Sato, Heidfeld, Massa etc

good one Kiko

hey you're one of the few people who should be on my side here!

[Jenson_Rules 0]

Here, My biggest shrine maybe for worshiping the almighty Jenson ''touched by the hand of god'' Button, but Alonso is my second fave driver!

[Jem of the Shire 0]

yes I know u are an alonso fan but jenson is under attack from the almighty nobcheese himself MFHJ and u need to fight the cause

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

Lol Jemstride you make me chuckle.

JPM will be WDC this year. He's twice Indy 500 champ too, and he's more F1 race wins than Button, even though for a year, Button had the 2nd best car on the grid and should've won races.

He didn't because he doesn't have the talent.

Good drivers (IMO):

Schumacher(he's just a **** normally as a person)

Alonso (WDC, what more)

R Schumacher (see the other)

Trulli (I dunno, just something I like)

Notice a constant in my drivers? They all have proven ability.

[Jenson_Rules 0]

nah, ill let Jense do the talking on the track from now on. Soon MFHJ will see hes actually a very good driver and one of the best in Motorsport full stop.

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

We'll see I suppose. Can't see anything changing.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Trulli has only won one race - and in that race Button was all over his arse trying to get past. Trulli was also beaten by Button as a team-mate in 2002 you mouldy pair of pants.

You say JPM will be wdc this year, well why wasnt he last year???

2004 - dont even get me started, you probably didnt watch it if u think JB should've won races

And Ralf???

It seems apparent my noble adversary that my 8-year old sister could probably judge driver talent better than you

[Jenson_Rules 0]

Its also true Montoya Fan that you're beloved fat friend montoya was in the class of the field in 2003, and now WDC? now what happened there? Clearly if Monty cant win a WDC in the best car then what hope has he got when hes against a renault and a honda which are currently better cars!

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

At least your 8 year old sister might actually make sensible arguments...if you're going to say 'Why wasn't he WDC last year' then why didn't Button win races in '04?

'Trulli had Button all over his arse trying to get past' well, 1. I'm sure Button enjoyed it, and 2. Why didn't he get past?

It seems apparent my 2 year old dog could probably make more sense than you.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

At least your 8 year old sister might actually make sensible arguments...if you're going to say 'Why wasn't he WDC last year' then why didn't Button win races in '04?

'Trulli had Button all over his arse trying to get past' well, 1. I'm sure Button enjoyed it, and 2. Why didn't he get past?

It seems apparent my 2 year old dog could probably make more sense than you.

Schumi winning 13 races in 2004 made it difficult for anyone to win.

Button retired from 3 of the 4 races that ferrari didnt win.

The other race he was all over trulli - the reason he didnt get past was because it was in monaco. Clearly I was right, you didnt watch f1 2004.

A 3-week old carrot may perhaps make more sense than you.

I ask again - why wasnt jpm wdc in 2003 or 2005? or even 2002?

[Jenson_Rules 0]

i know button enjoys a bit of bum, he told me, especially with jemstride

Schumi winning 13 races in 2004 made it difficult for anyone to win.

Button retired from 3 of the 4 races that ferrari didnt win.

The other race he was all over trulli - the reason he didnt get past was because it was in monaco. Clearly I was right, you didnt watch f1 2004.

A 3-week old carrot may perhaps make more sense than you.

I ask again - why wasnt jpm wdc in 2003 or 2005? or even 2002?

indeed

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

2005 - Kimi and Alonso were both better.

2003 - Wasn't watching.

Same for 2002. From 1998-2003 I didn't watch.

The fact remains, the years and the chances Button has had, he should have a win by now - even you can't deny that.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Chances?? I beg of you to tell me what chances Button has had of winning but has thrown them away. There arent any.

2003, I'll tell you what happened - Montoya crashed into Barrichello and cost himself the title. But he did score a lot of podiums to stay in the title hunt.

2002, he got 7 poles which was very impressive but kept messing up cos he was so desperate to prove he was better than Schumacher

Nice of you to acknowledge that kimi was better last year - you do have some credibility after all!

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

Alonso was better than Kimi last year. Anyway, JB had plenty chances even this year to impress - one in particular where he hit the wall for example.

Come on man, that many races with no wins is pretty pathetic. Almost as pathetic as you claiming Button's better than Alonso.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Alonso was better than Kimi last year. Anyway, JB had plenty chances even this year to impress - one in particular where he hit the wall for example.

Come on man, that many races with no wins is pretty pathetic. Almost as pathetic as you claiming Button's better than Alonso.

I never claimed that.

jenson hit the wall, but so did alonso the same race. jenson wasnt on his way to winning, that doesnt count as a 'chance'.

Button hasnt had the machinery to win. Thats the end of it. You're a penis you're 100% anti-button and theres no point trying to argue with you cos you come out with bollocks with nothing to back it up. I have to go now shame I'm verging on suicide after this! CANNOT WAIT for buttons win so I can rub it in your face SOOOOOOOOOO much

bye for now

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

I can't wait until you ****ing grow up. The second best car for a season should've won a ****ing race, whatever you say.

[Jenson_Rules 0]

only jenson bashers say that. But that srgument holds no water. The ferrari was far superior and like Jem said, 3/4 races where ferrari didnt win jense retired from, the other, Monaco, he was all oveer trullis arse but wasnt close enough, plus monaco is really difficult to overtake on!

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

The best drivers win races though - and he hasn't. Machinery or not. Senna carried bad cars, Schumacher has had bad cars and won...yet everyone uses the same excuse for JB. In a sense you're just as bad as me, because you can't see he's overhyped for nothing...

[Jenson_Rules 0]

bulls##t. To win in F1 now is much more based on your machinery now. Its practically 80%car, 20% driver. When senna was racing it wasnt quite that dramatic proportions.

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

You still have to win races with whatever you get. If Button was that good, a big team would have him, like Ferrari or Mclaren.

[Jenson_Rules 0]

MFHJ, your argument holds no water anyway. Senna and Schumacher are two of the best f1 drivers EVER, jenson pales in comparison to senna especially.

are you saying honda is not a big team?

are you also saying Williams is not a big team either!

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

So you admit Jenson isn't as good as he's painted then? Based on our press you'd think he was a cross between Senna and a Sherman Tank!

[Jenson_Rules 0]

Hey, i have never said hes the best, he isnt at alonso or kimis standard YET, but i would probably say hes very close to schumacher in his current state!

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

LOL! MFHJ wins IMO. JB I would say is very middle of the pack. He's not awful, but he's nowhere near as good as most people believe.

[AutoRacer5 0]

If Heidfeld and webber could pass Alonso going into the Nouvelle chicane, then Button could have tried the same move on Trulli in 2004.