Is Rosberg Safe For 2016?

[Ajay Fernando 0]

Bitter truth

[Emmcee 0]

Maybe. Unfortunately F1 is not the place to prove if you are a racer or not these days.

Yep, that's the truth sadly. Like lotterer when he drove for Caterham, he said the lmp cars where much more fun to drive.

[lewywo4 0]

Exactly, just his car is that much quicker than everyone else's, he is quicker out of the two merc drivers but in pure pace that can be used on any car id put alonso,ricciardo,Vettel and possibly kimi ahead of him. And mentioned earlier, he can't drive on his own, he needs constant coaching, like drivers alonso,button,Vettel,Raikkonen,ricciardo, all can figure out what to do on there own. We've seen lewis try it himself and only ruins his race.

You may on pure race pace place Alonso, Vettel, Ricciardo and even Raikkonen ahead of Hamilton, but a recent survey conducted by Germany's Bild magazine with all 10 of F1 rival Team Principles, would surely disagree with you. All of them felt that Lewis without question is the best driver in F1 today.

As far as Lewis's constant need for coaching, and can't drive on his own is only laughable. The Italian GP last season whereas Hamilton disregarded the team's advice to hold of his attack on Nico, until the latter part of the race. Lewis decided to attack Nico earlier, rather than later, and as a result won the race.

When has Lewis ever followed the example of his teammate Rosberg, and asked his race engineer " where is the racing line " as he did during the Malaysian GP. How about this beauty again on Nico's part, during practice for the Italian GP asking his race engineer Tony Ross, " Give me driving instructions." Hamilton would have never heard the end of it, if he had ever uttered those words.." Give me driving instructions."

[Emmcee 0]

Mate every driver says it time and time again and even lewis himself, that alonso is the fastest out there simple as that. Iam not sayings lewis isn't good, he is a brilliant driver but not the best out there IMO and the Mercedes makes him look unbeatable. He is taking full advantage of his machinery and doing a good job but I wouldn't say he is naturally the fastest.

[exf1driver 0]

I disagree the things you say abt lewis. I feel he is the fastest in the current drivers. He doesnt need coaching and all its just that he is not intelligent like alonso and is very weak in mental toughness . Other than that he is a fine driver. True racer.

Have you ever listened to his radio chatter? not what is aired on the broadcast.

[Emmcee 0]

Have you ever listened to his radio chatter? not what is aired on the broadcast.

Yep you could loop a beat and have a top dance track lol.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Given that Lewis has easily outpaced all of his team-mates (bar his rookie year where he still took it to a 2 x WDC), and we know Nico isn't slow from watching him wreck Shumi, I'd say there's not much weight to say that Ricciardo Vettel and Kimi (seriously?) are ahead of him, but that's just IMO. I can't recall Lewis ever needing coaching during a race

[exf1driver 0]

Given that Lewis has easily outpaced all of his team-mates (bar his rookie year where he still took it to a 2 x WDC), and we know Nico isn't slow from watching him wreck Shumi, I'd say there's not much weight to say that Ricciardo Vettel and Kimi (seriously?) are ahead of him, but that's just IMO. I can't recall Lewis ever needing coaching during a race

I wouldn't go so far as to say "easily outpaced", and as I made mention before, listen to his full radio at the circuit, he is constantly going back and forth with the prat perch.

I wouldnt say that Nico "wrecked" Schumi either, in 2010 he had a clear advantage, but by 2012 Schumi was very much a match for him, Qualy was 10 all, races 11-9 in Schumi's favour, Ricciardo would likely do a better job than Nico, but would he consistently beat Lewis is an entirely open ended question.

[Emmcee 0]

IMO ricciardo is one of the fastest out there if not the fastest, only maybe pipped by alonso. Last season prooves that IMO. When a 4x champ needs to consistantly change his car because he has no answers on the track while your driving the out dated version. What more needs to be prooved?

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Cos it was just 1 season. Trulli was very often faster than Alonso in 2004 but no-one thought he was the best in the world! Don't get me wrong Dan is up there clearly, but I cant put him ahead of Lewis on pure pace

[lewywo4 0]

Kvyat mugged Ricciardo at the start of the race at Monaco into the first turn, and had better finishes than Dan in Both Monaco and Canada. Riccardo isn't faster than Lewis on pace, but has the potential to join with Hamilton, Alonso and Vettel as being a front runner with a competitive car.

[maure 1]

Yeah, I too reckon Ricciardo would be twerking Hamilton racing-wise if they were teammates. The Brit is good but not nearly as good as his hype. On the other hand, we haven't seen Ricciardo dealing with the stakes of fighting for a championship and, in this regard, Hamilton is proving himself to be the best at the moment.

Cos it was just 1 season. Trulli was very often faster than Alonso in 2004 but no-one thought he was the best in the world! Don't get me wrong Dan is up there clearly, but I cant put him ahead of Lewis on pure pace

Alonso was a nobody at the time and Trulli was not faster anyway. Come season's end, Trulli was more than a race behind in points. I think it was the other way around, that is, Alonso's stock grew (too much, imo) because he manhandled Trulli into the rearview mirror.

[Emmcee 0]

Cos it was just 1 season. Trulli was very often faster than Alonso in 2004 but no-one thought he was the best in the world! Don't get me wrong Dan is up there clearly, but I cant put him ahead of Lewis on pure pace

Maybe not in your opinion but alonso was asked what his top 3 drivers were and he said Hamilton,Hulkenberg and ricciardo.

[maure 1]

Yep, facts are stubborned. I checked and Alonso was ahead of Trulli both seasons by a wide margin. What I had forgotten is that Renault gave the boot to Button in order to make room for Alonso. That explains a lot of the bias. There other issues but, heck, this is a decade ago and memory fails.

[Emmcee 0]

Yep, facts are stubborned. I checked and Alonso was ahead of Trulli both seasons by a wide margin. What I had forgotten is that Renault gave the boot to Button in order to make room for Alonso. That explains a lot of the bias. There other issues but, heck, this is a decade ago and memory fails.

that's after alonso sat a year out because of button

[Jem of the Shire 0]

OK hold your horses guys - firstly, Maure you're neglecting to mention the fact Trulli was sacked mid-season and switched to a 'lesser' team, so it's irrelevant IMO that Alonso ended the season with more points. At the time of sacking, Trulli was ahead and had won a race.

Alonso was far from a nobody, he was the new flavour of the month after his 2003 season.

Button's sacking in 2002 hadn't even come into my head so please don't call me biased.

Webric I have no issue with Dan being categorised as top 3 I'm just saying that IMO on pure pace alone, I wouldn't put anyone over Lewis. Again, pure pace only. Lewis certainly has his flaws.

[Emmcee 0]

OK hold your horses guys - firstly, Maure you're neglecting to mention the fact Trulli was sacked mid-season and switched to a 'lesser' team, so it's irrelevant IMO that Alonso ended the season with more points. At the time of sacking, Trulli was ahead and had won a race.

Alonso was far from a nobody, he was the new flavour of the month after his 2003 season.

Button's sacking in 2002 hadn't even come into my head so please don't call me biased.

Webric I have no issue with Dan being categorised as top 3 I'm just saying that IMO on pure pace alone, I wouldn't put anyone over Lewis. Again, pure pace only. Lewis certainly has his flaws.

it's based on opinion isn't it really? I I don't think lewis could have extracted what dan did out of the Redbull last season, I mean not even a 4x champ could and at certain points he was battling with the mercs who had a clear pace advantage, remember the move round the outside of Hamilton in turn 2 at Hungary last year? Back alonso and Trulli, if I recall though, alonso had quite a few dnfs comained to Trulli, that's why he was so far behind. Correct me if iam wrong by all means though.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Oh yea it's only opinion totally - can't make an easy comparison cos they've never driven the same car.

Yep I remember Hungary, Dan's racecraft is up there with the best.

I think Lewis would be better than Vettel at extracting performance out of a bad(ish) car, hard to say whether he would've beaten Ricciardo over a season though. I just think for 1-lap pace Lewis is the best.

[Emmcee 0]

Yea it's hard to say because Mclaren 2009 only just came to mind and he did do quite well with a car and I quote "handles like a fvcking boat"

[Jem of the Shire 0]

I think he crashed it a few too many times though. Speed-wise though he destroyed his team-mate

[Ajay Fernando 0]

I feel lewis is a bit faster than dan atleast in quali.In race pace may be dan is slightly faster. But we cannot really compare as we dont know how dan would cope up under some real pressure interms of championship battles.My opinion i wud opt for lewis any day.

[maure 1]

OK hold your horses guys - firstly, Maure you're neglecting to mention the fact Trulli was sacked mid-season and switched to a 'lesser' team, so it's irrelevant IMO that Alonso ended the season with more points. At the time of sacking, Trulli was ahead and had won a race.

Alonso was far from a nobody, he was the new flavour of the month after his 2003 season.

Button's sacking in 2002 hadn't even come into my head so please don't call me biased.

Made me look.

The 1st season together (03), Alonso beat Trulli in points by more than two races. The 2nd season, Trulli was sacked 3 races from the end and, point-wise, Trulli had 51 against 47 but Alonso had 1 more retirement. Trulli had scored 1 victory and a 3rd as his best, Alonso had a 2nd and three 3rds.

Your initial comment was that "Trulli was very often faster than Alonso in 2004". You then added that "Trulli was sacked mid-season". The data shows that this is not the case whatsoever.

Alonso's first proper full F1 season was in 03 and he was overhyped precisely because of his handling of Trulli.

Button's sacking was the preview to the storm of bigotry we all have and continue to witness. The bias is there. Consider the facts.

[Emmcee 0]

I try not to post these sort of facts because no matter how black and white they are, there's always an excuse to say the history books are incorrect. That's what peevs me of but if it concerns there driver, the history books are correct. But the funny thing is, they won't use this sort of approach when asking questions about real world history if you know what I mean?