F1 pre-season testing (2022)

[Sakae 0]

D/T 2022.01.26  21:40 CET

Open for discussion.

First test:  Barcelona between February 23 and 25.

Second test:  Bahrain between March 10 and 12.

Weather forecast for the first test:

 

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Thx Sakae

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Everything on RBR engine situation...

https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-to-expect-from-red-bulls-not-a-honda-f1-engine/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Today-On-The-Race&utm_campaign=Campaign-2022-01-26&vgo_ee=Nm7rf6A%2FJb9y9AmP42aWVUzkASpiHornD%2Fz2wZTd1jg%3D

[Sakae 0]

D/T 2022.02.01  13:09 CET

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This session starts on February 23 and is mainly held behind closed doors.

Why? I can make several plausible guesses of reasons behind this decision,  none of them however would pleased Liberty.

[lipstick79 0]

On 1/27/2022 at 6:27 AM, BradSpeedMan said:

Everything on RBR engine situation...

It IS a way of talkin about a fizzy drink, when there is NO racin 
Keeps Red Bull in the news
It IS a strategic plan

[lipstick79 0]

4 hours ago, Sakae said:

If AM flops again, I would not be surprised if this will be Seb' last year. 

Probably.
The AM HAS 2 B challengin regularly 4 race wins.
What has Seb got left 2 prove - that he CAN win in a non-Newey designed car.
 

[Sakae 0]

11 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

Probably.
The AM HAS 2 B challengin regularly 4 race wins.
What has Seb got left 2 prove - that he CAN win in a non-Newey designed car.
 

Wrong.

Newey did not design Ferrari, yet Vettell won against RB.If you want to defame someone, find a better line of reasoning.

[lipstick79 0]

1 minute ago, Sakae said:

Newey did not design Ferrari, yet Vettell won against RB.

1 race is NOT a championship.
The point I AM makin is regularly winning in a non-Newey car.
Even crashdor maldonado can win 1 race.
 

[Sakae 0]

15 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

1 race is NOT a championship.
The point I AM makin is regularly winning in a non-Newey car.
Even crashdor maldonado can win 1 race.
 

Wrong again. Vettel won 14 races for Ferrari which, considering that car, is a decent record. Ask Alonso about his time at Ferrari. Maybe he can explain to you facts of life. Not everybody is afforded protected luxury car #44 enjoyed.

 

[lipstick79 0]

14 race wins is hardly anythin.  Compared 2 the handfull of WDC`S gained at Redbull
 

[Sakae 0]

D/T 2022.02.04  11:07 CET

Let me get this straight what kind of conditions teams will face once testing begins:

• New specs. (Design has not been validated on the track).
• Less time is permitted for testing in a wind tunnel through the season.
• Pre-season track testing is shorter this season. (I didn't think it was possible, but they managed).
• Restrictive regulations on in-season corrective work continue to hamper rate of recovery (if that at all will be possible).
• Impact of budgetary restrictions is self explanatory. (Materials, human resources)
• Jammed calendar will place cars on the road, not really available for some meaningful work in a factory.

These conditions are precursor to real mess, and potentially fatal blow for some teams. Leading drivers like Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, and one or two others aren't all that sure that developments lead to improvements F1 is seeking.

My solution? Easy. Let German manufacturers run F1 (technical and sporting sections). Award TV broadcast rights and paddock reporting to somebody else. Fairness and sensibility would return to its rightful place. 

 

[Sakae 0]

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HAAS F1 TEAM SITE DOWN AS VF-22 UNVEILING DELAYED

Good start. Everybody who is surprised lift your hand. 

[BradSpeedMan 6]

1 hour ago, Sakae said:

Good start. Everybody who is surprised lift your hand. 

Lol

What a mess, noting your post above too

[BradSpeedMan 6]

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/815744/Haas_unveil_quotthe_most_complex_projectquot_with_new_2022_F1_car/

 

Is this for real???

Amazing how small the sidepod air vents/intakes are, but then then it bulges to intake more air

[Sakae 0]

I don't know what to think of it. More clarity is needed.

[lipstick79 0]

It`s a triangle with the hypotenuse at the front breakin the air.
With the opposite and adjacent sides, the left and right sides of the chassis.
It is not very efficient - it smashes into the air. 
 

[BradSpeedMan 6]

30 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

It`s a triangle with the hypotenuse at the front breakin the air.
With the opposite and adjacent sides, the left and right sides of the chassis.
It is not very efficient - it smashes into the air. 
 

How about...

The standard front wing directs air staight into the iair intakes, while additional airflow follows the curve along and below the sidepods to the diffuser area.

[lipstick79 0]

That is 1 interpretation.
It obviously smashes in2 the air FIRST then, front wing directs air staight into the iair intakes ...
NOT very stream line.
   0------0
0----------0
 

[Sakae 0]

D/T 2022.02.05  11:58 CET

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Mercedes "absolutely desperate" to test "very, very different car"

That's what I mean. Panic is settling in. People simply don't know what that multi-million device will do. My guess is, MB is not alone living in doubts.

[lipstick79 0]

3 hours ago, Sakae said:

MB is not alone living in doubts

That is 1 way at lookin at though.  At this time focus IS on Honda and Red Bull.  It is just a way of sayin, hey remember us.
Get everybody talkin about, the champions again.
 

[Sakae 0]

7 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

That is 1 way at lookin at though.  At this time focus IS on Honda and Red Bull.  It is just a way of sayin, hey remember us.
Get everybody talkin about, the champions again.
 

The headline sounds like a good excuse for Hamilton, should he falter later, when finger-pointing starts.

You convert everything on this site into some marketing ploy. Ploy or not, the thing needs to run fast and reliably when lights go off on a start line. I will suggest to you, that next to scheming and propaganda, MO in marketing, there are real people in this world who do their best to make something nice and useful in life, and they do worry over a project with loose ends.

[lipstick79 0]

2 minutes ago, Sakae said:

You convert everything on this site into some marketing ploy.

That IS because the F1 show, IS a way of marketing 2 the world.
But, but, I`m black - I HAD a rough time growin up - IN the hood.
Even though, I were Ron Dennis` baby.  Nurtured 2 succeed IN F1 

[Sakae 0]

14 minutes ago, lipstick79 said:

That IS because the F1 show, IS a way of marketing 2 the world.
But, but, I`m black - I HAD a rough time growin up - IN the hood.
Even though, I were Ron Dennis` baby.  Nurtured 2 succeed IN F1 

Thanks for sharing, but at one time this was GP racing first, and the other stuff was just tagging along. Beats me at which point marketing and accounting took over and made out of GP whatever we have today.

[lipstick79 0]

2 minutes ago, Sakae said:

Beats me at which point marketing and accounting took over

Simple answer.  Bernie opened the door.  Red Bull and sponsors came IN.
Tobacco advertisin got banned - even though Marlboro STILL in the sport with their mission winnow product.
Red Bull had a fizzy drink they needed the world 2 see.
So bought their way in 2 the sport.

[Sakae 0]

D/T 2022.02.06  05:49 CET

Barretto is predicting:

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Four world champions will finish inside the top six in the drivers’ standings

Prediction with a lot of faith in trust that all cars will be capable.

In contrast, I would like to know what testing will tell us. If I however see Seb again in "excellent" position P16, then I would not put too much of faith in Barretto's wisdom. 

I think what we learned from midfield last year is, that once cars are very similar of strength and in performance, then external conditions begin creeping in how they score. Yellow flag ruins your qualification, wet/dry patches, track temp. fluctuations, unfortunate strategies, etc. The usual stuff.

Based on predictions that cars will be very close in performance, something I personally doubt, this might be a season when it will take longer into a season before dust settles, and pecking order emerges.