AutoRacer5 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2005 I voted 50/50, MS did push him down, yet Heidfeld should have realized whom he was dealing with and that Schumi was defending his position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted March 8, 2005 I voted 50/50, MS did push him down, yet Heidfeld should have realized whom he was dealing with and that Schumi was defending his position. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow, good English and from an American!! I'm impressed!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted March 8, 2005 even his own country of fans know it was his fault, yet he can't admit it! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The press are not the same as his fans of course but probably most of them blame him too. Anyway the Germans don't have much of a sense of humour. Sounds like hitting Hill/Villeneuve etc was OK but not knocking Nick Heidfeld out of a poor 9th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted March 8, 2005 MS: "It is impossible to blame either of us," said Schumacher afterwards. "I saw him behind me just as I came out of the pits and I made it clear I was defending my position. "At one point I lost sight of him in my mirrors and went into the corner when I felt I'd been hit. "I can't blame him for trying to overtake me." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Schumacher: that's German for 'cobblers'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2005 no, alistair mscgowan already established what schumacher translated to english means.. dirty cheating b#####d! In this crash he was a b#####d! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 It seems like Lady Luck has turned her face away from MS. Usually he's the luckiest b#####d in F1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AutoRacer5 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 Wow, good English and from an American!! I'm impressed!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Blame my English teacher from last year. Anyway, I was in London last year. My mom asked a Yeoman Warder at the Tower of London, "May we take your picture?" He replied, " You draw a picture, you take a photograph." BS in my opinion, but oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 Speaking correctly is of the utmost importance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 Speaking correctly is of the utmost importance. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Americans do seem to have their own, incorrect language. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Yes with their sidewalks, interstates, malls, oregano etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ksajoe 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Well I haven't seen it often enough (only once or twice) to decide but I won't argue with you if you all agree. However I'm beginning to detect the old "MS makes one mistake therefore he's completely useless" syndrome again. Please don't say he cracked under the pressure of fending off NH for I think 9th place. I think its more likely he just made a mistake partly because he felt like there was no point finishing in tenth so better take a risk. It is slightly unethical to ruin someone else's race but he probably was just fed up and didn't think properly about it. There are several times when he's come through the field eg Monza last year and Britain the year before. He perhaps isn't the best overtaker in the world but he is the best in most other respects so it doesn't make much difference and lets face it nobody's given him any practice in the last ten years (if you remember MS was actually ahead in the title deciders you mention). The idea that this race is going to change many opinions about him is ridiculous. JPM, KR and JV all made plenty of mistakes on Sunday when they actually had chances for decent results for them and they all blew them repeatedly so I think the last race gives more evidence that they crack under pressure than MS who wasn't under any. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> MS made a mistake, NH took a chance. They both ended their chances of picking a point - which they were capable of doing. Much as I think it was MS's mistake (100%) NH probably got too excited on sighting a Ferrari and relishing a chance to overtake it (only happens a couple of times in the season!). So both are now much the wiser! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Michael forced Nick on the grass and he couldn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Are you referring to me in particular or just English speaking natives? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not just you dear Senna, every English native speaker! I wish you try to learn other languaje and use it perfectly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenna 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Whose fault do you think it was? i thought it was pretty clear to see it was MS, with he silly actions in putting Nick onto the grass, where he had no chance of slowing down enough. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You judge from this clip http://homepage.ntlworld.com/e.hayes3/Cras...lbourne05_2.WMV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 You judge from this cliphttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/e.hayes3/Cras...lbourne05_2.WMV <{POST_SNAPBACK}> MS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 as i said, MS's fault, poor nick was a victim of MS's twattiness. BTW peeps, i am in a comp wiv me mate to have the most msn contacts, so every1 who dosnt hate JB add me, my address is [email protected] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 I'd add you but you know, the whole Sato thing.... i have 133 contacts, do i win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvermachine 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 it was michael's fault.. He forced nick to go out of the track to grass... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 it was michael's fault..He forced nick to go out of the track to grass... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 as i said, MS's fault, poor nick was a victim of MS's twattiness.BTW peeps, i am in a comp wiv me mate to have the most msn contacts, so every1 who dosnt hate JB add me, my address is [email protected] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i didnt say it properly then. Add me cos im in an msn war wiv me best buddy to get the most contacts, and yes sato i believe u do win at the mo eventhou u dnt count, lol. Its very sad but i have no life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
