Webber Is s##t

[Kay 0]

Most of the incidents Webber has been involved with weren't his faults and the ones that are he has admitted to.

Nick was just as poor if not poorer than Webber this weekend.

[Kay 0]

Hey Kay_zee, arent you tired trying to defend Webber every race, every time?

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[Kay 0]

I never said the Fisi one was Webbers fault, read my post next time, I said just they collided. Webber was too hasty that time, if Fisi's tires were shot as he said it wouldn't have hurt to wait for a safer place to take him.

The Ralf incident was still a screw up, even more so if Ralf was trying to pass him.

Monaco, Hiedfeld does the best piece of overtaken I have seen all year to get passed a slow Alonso. Webber makes a mess of it twice but manages to get in front the second time. Yeah yeah so what if Alonso straight lined the chicane, Webber missed it both times as well.

Nurburgring, span Montoya and parked it in the gravel. But he admitted to it which is always a good quality in a driver.

I dont hate Webber, he isn't a terrible driver, just very overated by ITV. Mark just seemed to have the Williams drive handed to him on a plate. Heidfeld had to work hard to prove himself to get the drive. Heidfeld continues to work hard and has outperformed Webber. To be fair though Webber doesn't have the best of luck. He isn't a bad guy and he is among the better drivers out there, he is just very overated.

Just a few statistics to think about:

Mark Webber

Australia - Starts 3rd Finished 5th

Malaysia - DNF

Bahrain - Starts 5th Finished 6th

San Marino - Starts 4th Finished 7th

Spain - Starts 2nd Finished 6th

Monaco - Starts 3rd Finished 3rd

Europe - DNF

Canada - Starts 14th Finished 5th

Nick Heidfeld

Australia - DNF

Malaysia - Starts 10th Finshed 3rd

Bahrain - DNF

San Marino - Starts 8th Finished 6th

Spain - Starts 17th Finished 10th

Monaco - Starts 6th Finished 2nd

Europe - Starts 1st Finished 2nd

Canada - DNF

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Your tone in your post made it quite clear you were faulting Mark. Ralf & Fisi incidents were there fault and not his. Yeah yeah if Alonso....see you lack the ability to blame anyone else but Mark, so yes you are anti him.

[ecapdeville 0]

He's not WDC material but he isn't as crap as half the people here make out. Just that they critise him to cover up their own drivers failings.

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I dont think Webber is crap, He had really good moments with Jaguar and I spected to much for him in Williams, I

[Kay 0]

I dont think Webber is crap, He had really good moments with Jaguar and I spected to much for him in Williams, I

[Sato 0]

Exactly. Most drivers don't but Mark does when it is his fault. Look at Europe, he admitted to it, even though many people couldn't make up their mind on whose fault. Infact ITV were blaming Montoya mostly for it, so he could easily of said it wasn't his fault.

[ecapdeville 0]

Excuses? He doesn't use excuses he admits when he is wrong.

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[Sato 0]

yeah because ficichella didn't take him out in Malaysia, Williams didn't make an unfair call in Monaco...

Fisichella has been absolutely s##t, using this logic. Using common sence he has been abit out of pace, but has been badly hampered by techincal problems.

[ecapdeville 0]

yeah because ficichella didn't take him out in Malaysia, Williams didn't make an unfair call in Monaco...

Fisichella has been absolutely s##t, using this logic. Using common sence he has been abit out of pace, but has been badly hampered by techincal problems.

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I dont know why you hate Fisico so much, but you are right he

[Sato 0]

Fisi won a race by the fact that qualfying took out half the competitive drivers. Alonso would of hammered him given the same situation, pure luck.

[ecapdeville 0]

Fisi won a race by the fact that qualfying took out half the competitive drivers. Alonso would of hammered him given the same situation, pure luck.

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Fact: Fisico won a race.

Fact: Webber doesnt.

Fact: Sato...

[Kay 0]

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[Kay 0]

I dont know why you hate Fisico so much, but you are right he

[Diesel 0]

Here is another little fact, even though I agree Fisi is pretty crap, Webber spun by no other fault than his own in Bahrain, I think he recovered quite promtly from what I remember but it was a real big spin. A major mistake.

[Kay 0]

Yes and I and others have never stated otherwise - whats your point?

[ecapdeville 0]

That is completly idiotic post of course he has won a race - he had the best car PLUS the best of luck. Webber doesn't have the best car or even the second best car...not even the third. 

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Come on Kay

Lets no fight ok?... I wish Webber good luck next races, and I hope Fisico

[Kay 0]

Well I don't get how you call facts excuses, perhaps you care to explain?

[ecapdeville 0]

Well I don't get how you call facts excuses, perhaps you care to explain?

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Perhaps is hard to make me explain as I would like...

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[Diesel 0]

Yes and I and others have never stated otherwise - whats your point?

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No Idea, I just thought I would add to the facts

[Sato 0]

Ok lets have a look at some of ther other drivers..

Kimi: made a mistake in bahrain and nearly damanaged the car, wass quite lucky not to

Button: Ofcourse his wall incident in canada

Alonso: Wall incident in Canada

Fisichella: Malaysia incident, which he was warned about future conduct from.

M Schumacher: Taking NH out in Aus

R Schumacher: getting belted by his teammate, has he beaten him in a weekend yet? (not results)

Theres a few drivers making mistakes as Webber has, why aren't they s##t?

[bajo39 0]

This thread is ridiculous and I suggest you stop posting in it Kay. Webber is clearly not s##t... He is a talented driver who so far lacks either the experience or racecraft to bring it all together and produce consistently good results.

[ecapdeville 0]

This thread is ridiculous and I suggest you stop posting in it Kay. Webber is clearly not s##t... He is a talented driver who so far lacks either the experience or racecraft to bring it all together and produce consistently good results.

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Indeed, stop it Kay.

[Kay 0]

Well some people make me laugh...and I can't resist