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[schumi13]

SchumiDeSuck, on Aug 18 2005, 02:50 PM, said:

is good to have different opinions. we always respect each other. 

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Ofcourse we do I am another that voted I like him but let us in this respected democracy not use words such as hate. The talent Schumi has is terrific and I am sure if I started a poll myself, I certainly wouldn't use the word hate on something that concerns F1 drivers.

[xenna]

Whoever started this thread must be a pathetic loser!


This is somebody you don't, never met, who doesn't give a toss whatsoever.

For goodness sake, get over it. It's just a sport

[Senna]

For your information it was cavallino who started the topic.  Whilst the topic is undoubtedly daft, is it not ok for people to dislike Michael regardless of whether they have actually met him or whether he cares or not?

[cavallino]

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Whilst the topic is undoubtedly daft,

err yeah that was the idea, and its lead to an expectedly daft but amusing discussion  

[schumi13]

Senna, on Aug 18 2005, 11:32 PM, said:

For your information it was cavallino who started the topic.  Whilst the topic is undoubtedly daft, is it not ok for people to dislike Michael regardless of whether they have actually met him or whether he cares or not?

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Apologies if you got the wrong end of the stick, I was just saying that many people think Schumi and Senna can actually be compared with their achievements.

[SchumiDeSuck]

schumi13, on Aug 19 2005, 12:10 AM, said:

Many say Michael cannot be compared to Senna and I do agree with that but Michael has become the most successful and finest racing driver of his era and he has turned a team's fortunes right around with the help of Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne. He is definately for me one of the greatest racing drivers of all time and I would have also though Senna would have probably broken records too like his current 65 pole position one (which is in reaching distance of Michael) but to be honest he would have retired in 1998-99. Michael has said that no one can and should compare the two and shed tears when a member of the press questioned his progress to reach and beat Senna's record.
Michael all the way and when he leaves for me it will be Kimi.

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On bright side, Schumi has the success beyond others. On the ugly side, so far, he does not show any sportmanship that worth for a respect.  

[schumi13]

SchumiDeSuck, on Aug 19 2005, 03:28 PM, said:

On bright side, Schumi has the success beyond others. On the ugly side, so far, he does not show any sportmanship that worth for a respect.   

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Hmmmmm.........

[SchumiDeSuck]

schumi13, on Aug 19 2005, 06:22 PM, said:

Hmmmmm.........

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Errrrrr...........           

[demonhorse]

Wez, on Aug 10 2005, 10:47 AM, said:

EXACTLY, 1990 was just revenge for 1989!

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oh well, that makes it right then, doesn't it!  

[pumpdoc]

demonhorse, on Aug 21 2005, 06:00 AM, said:

oh well, that makes it right then, doesn't it! 

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That's what I was saying about the Ferrari/ Schumi bashers    they can't see their nose on their face

[nojvnof1]

wait, wait.....yep, I see it, I see my nose  

[Wez]

demonhorse, on Aug 21 2005, 04:00 PM, said:

oh well, that makes it right then, doesn't it! 

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Yip!

[pumpdoc]

nojvnof1, on Aug 22 2005, 12:59 AM, said:

wait, wait.....yep, I see it, I see my nose 

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[nojvnof1]

[SchumiDeSuck]

              

[kup]

=)
i just cannot got in my mind ...
why should i hate somebody on this planet ?
what are (if any is) advantages of hating ?
imho, nobody can explain me this crap (hate) ...
=)

[SchumiDeSuck]

kup, on Aug 27 2005, 10:15 PM, said:

=)
i just cannot got in my mind ...
why should i hate somebody on this planet ?
what are (if any is) advantages of hating ?
imho, nobody can explain me this crap (hate) ...
=)

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Instead of hate, how about love or like?

In short, would you like him?  

[jemstride]

We can't hate him cos none of us actually know him as a person. As a driver, he is evil. As a person, everyone who knows him says he's a lovely guy

[ecapdeville]

SchumiDeSuck, on Sep 2 2005, 08:24 AM, said:

Instead of hate, how about love or like?

In short, would you like him? 

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NO!

love & peace  

Edited by ecapdeville, 14 September 2005 - 10:17 PM.

[cavallino]

This is hilarious, this topic refuses to die

[Knight The Prof]

I respect him but there have been too many dodgy moments to like him so I am probably halfway between the 2 options

[demonhorse]

Knight The Prof, on Sep 19 2005, 09:24 PM, said:

I respect him but there have been too many dodgy moments to like him so I am probably halfway between the 2 options

Hmm the 'dodgy moments' that everyone remembers most happened about TEN YEARS ago though...  people can't seem to grasp the concept that people can change.

Also there aren't too many drivers who've been around that long who you can say HAVEN'T had 'dodgy  moments' as you call them. For example, I do like Villeneuve but thought he had one of those in Japan - as has already been discussed and needs no more in THIS thread no1jvfan .
Hakkinen, Hill  Coulthard, Irvine (just some of my favourite drivers over the years) also had moments that would fall into this category.

[Kopite Girl]

I dont hate the guy.

He's a legend for christsakes!!

[schumi13]

Girl Racer, on Oct 16 2005, 02:25 PM, said:

I dont hate the guy.

He's a legend for christsakes!!

Yes picking up on what Demonhorse and Girl racer said, most people have been very bias towards Michael Schumacher because of him capitalizing on a death of a great F1 legend. We know statistically he is the best ever and most successful driver in the History of the sport but there are many others who have also done things which are hardly remembered in this day and age.

[Senna]

schumi13, on Nov 6 2005, 09:27 AM, said:

Yes picking up on what Demonhorse and Girl racer said, most people have been very bias towards Michael Schumacher because of him capitalizing on a death of a great F1 legend*1. We know statistically he is the best ever*2 and most successful driver in the History of the sport but there are many others who have also done things which are hardly remembered in this day and age*3.

*1.  I don’t think that’s true of anybody here.
*2.  In absolute statistical terms he is the most successful.  In relative terms (considering the number of races contested) he’s not even close.
*3.  Very true.  People forget.  The youngsters these days only know of Michael.  It is upsetting.

Edited by Senna, 06 November 2005 - 04:11 PM.

[Wez]

Senna, on Nov 6 2005, 06:10 PM, said:

*1.  I don’t think that’s true of anybody here.
*2.  In absolute statistical terms he is the most successful.  In relative terms (considering the number of races contested) he’s not even close.
*3.  Very true.  People forget.  The youngsters these days only know of Michael.  It is upsetting.

Indeed Senna

[Senna]

Yes, it is a trial sometimes!

[nojvnof1]

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most people have been very bias towards Michael Schumacher because of him capitalizing on a death of a great F1 legend.

that's got nothing to do with it for me. I despise him for what he did at Adelaide '94, Jerez '97, then his antics at Austria and Indy '02. Senna dying has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[Wez]

nojvnof1, on Nov 8 2005, 10:23 AM, said:

that's got nothing to do with it for me. I despise him for what he did at Adelaide '94, Jerez '97, then his antics at Austria and Indy '02. Senna dying has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Yeah, True this!

[ykickamoocow]

demonhorse, on Oct 15 2005, 04:11 AM, said:

Hmm the 'dodgy moments' that everyone remembers most happened about TEN YEARS ago though...  people can't seem to grasp the concept that people can change.

Also there aren't too many drivers who've been around that long who you can say HAVEN'T had 'dodgy  moments' as you call them. For example, I do like Villeneuve but thought he had one of those in Japan - as has already been discussed and needs no more in THIS thread no1jvfan .
Hakkinen, Hill  Coulthard, Irvine (just some of my favourite drivers over the years) also had moments that would fall into this category.

As far as im aware Hakkinen, Hill, Coulthard and Irvine have never tried to crash into someone to knock them out of the race.