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Dennis Criticises Mosley Speed Limit Offer

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Kimi Raikkonen had to be 'almost physically' restrained from taking the grid in Sunday's fated six car grand prix at Indy. McLaren boss Ron Dennis told Autosport that the Finn, desperate to close the title gap to Fernando Alonso, took a bit of 'holding back' before agreeing to pull into pitlane.

He added: ''How can anyone ... suggest that guys like these hit a speed limiter button in a racing situation?'' Dennis' comments should be seen, although far more veiled than Paul Stoddart's recent eruptions, as a criticism of Max Mosley's decision to not sanction a chicane.

The FIA president said he offered to set up a pitlane-like 'speed trap' for Michelin runners, worried about unsafe tyres, in turn-13. ''It's incredible,'' Dennis' comments concluded.

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Clearly a laughable and pathetic offer from Mosley. It is clear he did just want to create problems for the rebel teams at Indy.He didn't co-operate at all

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I think they should have come with a more safer option for going around the banking, i think the Michelin runners should have moved up higher on the banking and proceeded slower from there. That or use the entrance to the pit lane which would probably be the more practical solution. I think we should just move and forget about Indy 05' and look forward to the next race, baring that 'race' weekend this season has been brilliant and despite the beliefs of the tabloids, F1 has not been as hit as much as they have portrayed, in America yes but every where is just talking about it, it will not destroy F1 at all.

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I think they should have come with a more safer option for going around the banking, i think the Michelin runners should have moved up higher on the banking and proceeded slower from there. That or use the entrance to the pit lane which would probably be the more practical solution. I think we should just move and forget about Indy 05' and look forward to the next race, baring that 'race' weekend this season has been brilliant and despite the beliefs of the tabloids, F1 has not been as hit as much as they have portrayed, in America yes but every where is just talking about it, it will not destroy F1 at all.

Unless our beloved Max doesn't take off points from the Michelin teams next week..in this case,as Stoddart has said they will move away from F.1 soon and it will be just Mosley's fault this time.

Btw,despite they were not summoned Minardi has confirmed they will take part in the hearing and Jordan will proably do so too.Guess who won't take part? Ferrari? :angry:

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and then they'll say they weren't invited. That's always their excuse when there is a meeting between the teams and for whatever reason they don't attend.

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and then they'll say they weren't invited. That's always their excuse when there is a meeting between the teams and for whatever reason they don't attend.

The US fiasco ... BMW buying sauber ... Honda buying BAR ... F1 in a mess ... Mosley looking like an idiot ...

I think these are the ingredients for a GPWC. <_<

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i posted this a;ready yesterday, but anyway, mosley clearly hasnt a clue, a driver wont slow down, its not in them to, and its unfair on them to see ferrari's lapping themc so they have to slow right down!

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i posted this a;ready yesterday, but anyway, mosley clearly hasnt a clue, a driver wont slow down, its not in them to, and its unfair on them to see ferrari's lapping themc so they have to slow right down!

its perfectly fair for them to have anyone lapping them because their tyres dont work. Ron Dennis and keep forgetting the onus is on them to come up with a fair solution. Mosley rejected our demands is not good enough, you were not in a position to dictate, but you tried to nevertheless.

kimi seems to use the pitlane speed limiter ok, when it comes down to a threat of a drive through or stop go penalty. impose a voluntary black penalty for exceeding the limit and watch them step on the limiter. and the speed limiter was proposed for the whole lap, if the max speed was limiited they would not have to use it everytime.

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oh, like that would be fun, watching cars going stupidly slow around a fast ish circuit. OIh yeah, i think id rather see a 6 car race than F1 cars running around a track at a very slow speed. what the point!

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That was an idiotic solution by Max and I'm glad that 9 out of the 10 teams thought so too. I love the way Ron sticks it to Mosley everytime he gets a chance.

The 9 teams should get together and pay Mosley to leave seeing that the 1 team is paying him to stay :angry:

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One team meeting and only one team doesn't participate: Ferrari

Testing: 9 teams go on the sa,e track Ferrari goes always solo

Indianapolis: 9 teams agree for a chicane,Ferrari don't

Interlagos 2004: 9 teams agree on testing reduction,Ferrari don't

Pre-Interlagos: 9 teams are betrayed by Ferrari as the Scuderia signs the Concorde Agreement after years of battle.

Ferrari is s##t.

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That was an idiotic solution by Max and I'm glad that 9 out of the 10 teams thought so too. I love the way Ron sticks it to Mosley everytime he gets a chance.

The 9 teams should get together and pay Mosley to leave seeing that the 1 team is paying him to stay :angry:

Hi Kaciaj

I am just going to ignore cavallino in future. I just feel he's always against the actual facts that we bring across. I personally feel he has something against our avatars.

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Hi Kaciaj

I am just going to ignore cavallino in future. I just feel he's always against the actual facts that we bring across. I personally feel he has something against our avatars.

haha this guy (person?) is hilarious. :lol::lol::P:P

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''How can anyone ... suggest that guys like these hit a speed limiter button in a racing situation?''

What does Ron think the drivers do on entry to the pit lane? Bizzare comment.

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yes but not on the fastest part of a ciruit whiole actually on circuit, racing, not refuelling

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Hi Kaciaj

I am just going to ignore cavallino in future. I just feel he's always against the actual facts that we bring across. I personally feel he has something against our avatars.

You see, one forum made by a lot of people and there are just two Ferrari fans (cavallino and Fed Up) and they started to post just since the Ferraris are back competitive...typical of Ferrari fans they do follow F.1 just when Ferrari is winning.

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what about AR5?

He is a Schumacher fan but I don't think he is also a Ferrari fan.

However I don't care of how many Ferrari fans there are,it's becoming clear they are starting to talk too much since their favourite red cheaters are back in a winning mood....

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Kimi Raikkonen had to be 'almost physically' restrained from taking the grid in Sunday's fated six car grand prix at Indy. McLaren boss Ron Dennis told Autosport that the Finn, desperate to close the title gap to Fernando Alonso, took a bit of 'holding back' before agreeing to pull into pitlane. 

He added: ''How can anyone ... suggest that guys like these hit a speed limiter button in a racing situation?'' Dennis' comments should be seen, although far more veiled than Paul Stoddart's recent eruptions, as a criticism of Max Mosley's decision to not sanction a chicane.

The FIA president said he offered to set up a pitlane-like 'speed trap' for Michelin runners, worried about unsafe tyres, in turn-13. ''It's incredible,'' Dennis' comments concluded.

What about the pit lane speed limiter.

It would have been the same for FA so points could have been earned regardless. As it is they have both lost points to MS due to their respect teams playing politics.

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what about AR5?

I've been a Ferrari fan from before you were born, and a Lotus, McLaren, Williams

etc.

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You see, one forum made by a lot of people and there are just two Ferrari fans (cavallino and Fed Up) and they started to post just since the Ferraris are back competitive...typical of Ferrari fans they do follow F.1 just when Ferrari is winning.
I've been following F1 since 97 (not that long but I'm only 19) and saw ferrari fight for 3 years before they could win. If I wanted a pure ferrari forum I would stick to scuderia.net. but its more fun to argue your point :P
hahaha, yeah, and hes right as well!

I am yet to see him bring a 'fact' across.

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