Takuma Sato's Worst Moments

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JPM's Resume

Sure does look fine and impressive, as you can see he accomplished a lot on his rookie year. Victory, Pole, Fast lap and Podium etc. You can't say the same thing about your driver can you? Do you want me to post Jenson's resume to see how he compares!!!!!

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But thats missing all his bad points, and theres ALOT!

[Sato 0]

It shows he has the killer instinct to win races though. Something Buttons can't show, and lets not be silly, its an important trait to have.

[Monty 0]

You tell em Monty!

I don't know why you mention how Sato is worse everytime JB comes under speculation. Many people have the opinion Sato is not a good enough driver. If he is so poor, why does it matter JB beats him? So you'll have to use a better escapegoat to convince me.

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I guess that is the only way they can make Jenson look better and unfortunately Sato is having a rough time this year. One of the reasons why I want Jenson to move to Williams and pair up with Webber is to measure his true potential, or for that matter stay at BAR and pair up with Rubens and that would be intesting too.

I agree Button is smooth, but he certainly doesnt have the raw speed that Webber owns. I can imagine the excuses these guys come up with next year.

[Buttonfan 0]

Sato mite blame his bad year on the number 4, since it is an unlucky number in Japan

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I guess that is the only way they can make Jenson look better and unfortunately Sato is having a rough time this year. One of the reasons why I want Jenson to move to Williams and pair up with Webber is to measure his true potential, or for that matter stay at BAR and pair up with Rubens and that would be intesting too. 

I agree Button is smooth, but he certainly doesnt have the raw speed that Webber owns. I can imagine the excuses  these guys come up with next year. 

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Webber...Raw speed... WTF you on monty, my god i think you need to be sent to a mental asylum for making such ridiculous comments like that!

[Buttonfan 0]

calm down Ben, dont you se the smiley face at the end, because I do

[Monty 0]

JPM

Formula 1 statistics

Grand Prix Debut 2001 Australian GP

Grand Prix Starts 78

Grand Prix Points 255

Grand Prix Wins 5

Pole Positions 11

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JPM

Button

As you can see Jenson was on the podium in 2004 and accomplished a few on his 5th season. (JPM achieved them all plus victory and fast lap on his rookie year) However, the race victory and fast lap are something that he is yet to accomplish and seems to be beyond his capabilities. So I wait and wait and wait........

More Food for thought: 

JPM on an average scores 3.26 points per race

JB on an average scores 1.58 points per race

JPM has 25 podiums and gets on the podium every 3.12 race

JB  has 10 podiums and gets on the podium every 9.4 race

JPM has led 27 races

JB  has led 8 races.

JPM got his 1 Podium on his 5th race.

JB  got his 1 podium on his 69th race. (5th season) 

Do you need more JR? or will you shut up. 

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thats all well and good, but JB has only had 1 really good car, in a year of ferrari utter domination! Montoya on the other hand has had race winning cars throughout the whole of his career preety much!

[Monty 0]

thats all well and good, but JB has only had 1 really good car, in a year of ferrari utter domination! Montoya on the other hand has had race winning cars throughout the whole of his career preety much!

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I guess that's your way of saying that you'll SHUT UP.

I can read between lines.

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Look im not in anyway denying that Montoya is an accomplished driver, but when you look at their relative machinery, Montoya's acheivements become much less impressive. But then compare Montoyas stats with say for example, kimis or alonos, it puts his rather to shame!

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hypocritical...... JB's first car was podium material as shown by Ralf.... But JB didn't get a podium that year, did he?

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hypocritical...... JB's first car was podium material as shown by Ralf.... But JB didn't get a podium that year, did he?

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And how many times did ralf get it on the podium?

[Monty 0]

Look im not in anyway denying that Montoya is an accomplished driver,

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Well at least with him it seems to be just one big mistake a season, unlike many others! Imagine JPM's, or even worse TS's resume! LOL

Really you seems to contradicte yourself. You said that JPM's resume looks bad.

compare Montoyas stats with say for example, kimis or alonos, it puts his rather to shame!

Hey it is you Jenson fans who compare him with Sato and claim how great he is. I have never compared JPM with any other driver who is not in the same level and claimed he was better. Besides I always said that Alonso and Kimi were better than JPM. I happen to support a driver who has proven himself as a winner, whereas you seems to be supporting a loser and I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem only when you portray JPM as bad.

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And how many times did ralf get it on the podium?

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Thrice with two 4th places and three 5th places.

Jenson, the closest he got was 4th at Hockenhiem.

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Really you seems to contradicte yourself. You said that JPM's resume looks bad.

Hey it is you Jenson fans who compare him with Sato and claim how great he is. I have never compared JPM with any other driver who is not in the same level and claimed he was better. Besides I always said that Alonso and Kimi were better than JPM. I happen to support a driver who has proven himself as a winner, whereas you seems to be supporting a loser and I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem only when you portray JPM as bad.

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His resume would look bad with all his mistakes on iut, as Dan said JB's resume will have the canadian incedent on it, so Jpms will have many incedents on it, many more than JB's!

I dont portray JPM as bad ether, hes probably joint 5th best driver in the field, as i said stats are useless when you compare to drivers from different teams who also have never been teamates, and also when on eof the drivers has had a race winning car every season!

Also Jb may not have gotten 3 podiums in his first season, but managed some very good drives, most notably hockenheim where he started 16th and finished 4th, which is no small feat!

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I dont portray JPM as bad ether, hes probably joint 5th best driver in the field, as i said stats are useless when you compare to drivers from different teams who also have never been teamates, and also when on eof the drivers has had a race winning car every season!

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True, he has driven good cars and has made the best use of it and that is what racing is about. It is also the reason why the best teams have signed him up.

Button had a race winning car in 2004 and what did he do?

Drove it around like an old lass in a cadillac

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True, he has driven good cars and  has made the best use of it and that is what racing is about. It is also the reason why the best teams have signed him up.

Button had a race winning car in 2004 and what did he do?

Drove it around like an old lass in a cadillac

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Thats not true, he clearly could have won a few races last year but for certain reason he didnt, some due to being unlucky (brazil, germany) and others where otehr cars were just much much quicker (monza for example)

[Monty 0]

he clearly could have won a few races last year but for certain reason he didnt.

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What are those reasons? You mentioned bad luck, what is that? he had 3 DNF's against Kimi's 8!!!. Kimi won a race too....

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What are those reasons? You mentioned  bad luck, what is that? he had 3 DNF's against Kimi's 8!!!. Kimi won a race too....

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The mclaren mp4 19b was not a bad car in the slightest. Jb shud have won hockenheim but had to change his engine, He retired from brazil, where he overtook the eventual winner, his car was not the fastest at imola due to ms and ferrari, again that same trend happened in monza and shanghai!

[Monty 0]

The mclaren mp4 19b was not a bad car in the slightest. Jb shud have won hockenheim but had to change his engine, He retired from brazil, where he overtook the eventual winner, his car was not the fastest at imola due to ms and ferrari, again that same trend happened in monza and shanghai!

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Even your cronie has admitted that BAR had the second fastest car last year. If someone can be in the podium 10 times in a season and not win a race and also not record a fast lap, it is more than the car, bad luck and all that bollocks.

Mp4 19B was not introduced only in France, and Kimi had 3 retirements with that car which is what JB had the entire season.

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Even your cronie has admitted that BAR had the second fastest car last year. If someone can be in the podium 10 times in a season and not win a race and also not record a fast lap, it is more than the car, bad luck and all that bollocks.

Mp4 19B was not introduced only in France, and Kimi had 3 retirements with that car which is what JB had the entire season.

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Its all well and good having the 2nd best car, however when the best car was soo superiour and reliable as it was, its not hard to see why JB failed to score a win!

[Monty 0]

Its all well and good having the 2nd best car, however when the best car is soo superious and reliable as it was, its not hard to see why JB failed to score a win!

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You just didn't make any sense at all with that post. Are you suggesting that the BAR was unrelaible, or are you intentionaly speaking non-sense to divert attention.

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You just didn't make any sense at all with that post. Are you suggesting that the BAR was unrelaible, or are you intentionaly speaking non-sense to divert attention.

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It made perfect sense. If the best car was so reliable, then it means JB couldnt have inherited any extra places, and if the worlds best ever driver was also driving the best car it realy means no one else has much hope!

[Monty 0]

It made perfect sense. If the best car was so reliable, then it means JB couldnt have inherited any extra places, and if the worlds best ever driver was also driving the best car it realy means no one else has much hope!

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After the introduction of Mclaren's spec B, Button scored more points than Kimi. He scored 41 to 37 of Kimi's. Please explain this. (BTW JPM scored only 34 points after France but did win a race)

My point is till about France ( which is 10 races) Mclaren had an unrelaible car and Williams were never quick. (all through the season) Button only had Ferrari to deal with and in Montecarlo MS retired and Button finished 2nd behind Trulli.... and in other races when MS was slower the other drivers in slower car were able to win but not your driver. Why is that?

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After the introduction of Mclaren's spec B, Button scored more points than Kimi. He scored 41 to 37 of Kimi's. Please explain this. (BTW JPM scored only 34 points after France but did win a race)

My point is till about France ( which is 10 races) Mclaren had an unrelaible car and Williams were never quick. (all through the season) Button only had Ferrari to deal with and in Montecarlo MS retired and Button finished 2nd behind Trulli.... and in other races when MS was slower the other drivers in slower car were able to win but not your driver. Why is that?

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How is JB supposed to compete against ferrari in a completely inferior car. I think he did bloody good considering the circumstances. And the renault was just as good as the BAR in the first half of the season, maybe even better actually!