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You said it, brother.

To some of the posters above: Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt. :rolleyes:

Indeed..............................

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guys! lets get back 2 d topic! so, what do you guys think about tyre wars this season?

wel...am a michelin fan since mclarens are shod with dem.....during winter i guess michelins have shown a better pace but bridgestone was not that far off either! guess we have to hold on til grand prix of behrains over, because ferrari and bridgestone have done extensive testings so we cant rule them out...they may lack in qualifying but they may get stronger in the race.

all the best mclaren!

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My last word, unless someone else posts:

ykick, these are people who believe god will reward them in heaven for killing people. That's all I'm going to say.

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You said it, brother.

To some of the posters above: Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt. :rolleyes:

bump................put it to rest.........................

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Said by Winston Churchill, a great man. He was 1337 before his time.

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My last word, unless someone else posts:

ykick, these are people who believe god will reward them in heaven for killing people. That's all I'm going to say.

what on earh is ur probs now man? do u want me 2 start it all again? v all no whos killin innocent people....2 months back american forces fired a messiles in a pakistan village killing only innocent civilians, an they were at 1st arrogant to appologize 2 them...but later said oops....error regreted...****ers have no value 4 life...all they care is for themselves......thet was just one example of what your country is doing....ask bush 2 pull back the forces dude.....your country might regain its popularity....lets get back to the topic! michelin vs bridgestone.....

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Pakistan said that it could be fired, and we got the #4 bomb maker for Al-Qaeda confirmed dead. You were the one who brought it up, so if you didn't, none of this would happen. Bush has stuck to his principals and hasn't wavered from his stance on terrorism, and really, where are you from? because I could tell a lot from that. Probably from Europe, where many suffer from short term memory.

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Ok, this will be a long post.

Hiroshima was a military target, yes its sad that civilians died, but the main target was military.

:wacko: That would be funny if over 100000 people hadn't died. Its sad that a few people died on September 11, but the main reason was to shake up the world economy.

In our recent history, we havent gone to war against a country for land.
bay of pigs :rolleyes:
Tell that to the women who can wear nail polish on their hands without them being cut off. Tell that to the women who no longer have to wear burqas. Tell that to the women who can go to school.

They could do that under Saddam, I remember a lovely article about Baghdad in National Geographic from 1987, (when America was sponsoring Saddam's antics) about how much freedom women had under the Baath regime.

We foiled a terrorist attack against the tallest building on the west coast, hear of that? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184324,00.html

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: propaganda

Britain has socialized medicine, which in itself is bad.
Look at the taxes, its very cheap to live over here compared to over there.

Ah are you talking to the millions who live below the poverty line in the worlds richest country :unsure:

If we went in for oil, wouldn't we have gotten it all out already?

The d#ck Cheney mafia is already at it, though some of their work is being foiled by the insurgency :thbup:

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Pakistan said that it could be fired, and we got the #4 bomb maker for Al-Qaeda confirmed dead. You were the one who brought it up, so if you didn't, none of this would happen. Bush has stuck to his principals and hasn't wavered from his stance on terrorism, and really, where are you from? because I could tell a lot from that. Probably from Europe, where many suffer from short term memory.

ok...i admit i started it all....well i wana end, not bcos am scared though! if v went on v wud keep fighting...however, american dominance will come to an end...watch!

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ykick, these are people who believe god will reward them in heaven for killing people. That's all I'm going to say.

Who? I've heard Tony Blair and Bush say god told them to carry out their massacres in Iraq.

Pakistan said that it could be fired, and we got the #4 bomb maker for Al-Qaeda confirmed dead.

rubbish and rubbish :rolleyes:

Said by Winston Churchill, a great man.

of course, quote a sworn imperialist to support a sworn imperialist.

We know that there is oil in Venezuela, yet what US troops are there?

err thats because Chavez wont let you in, smart guy B)

Every citizen in America has their god-given rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

what abour every no American.

torture is no food, no drink, and broken/shattered/bent/twisted/bad limbs and such.

Like Abu Ghraib? Is that torture?

they are not American citizens

They're human. And innocent until proven guilty.

China gets all their uranium from Australia

Thats been cleared with uncle Bush' date=' Australia can only trade with countries which have been cleared by uncle Bush.

We pay Cuba to have Guantanamo.

Prove that, though even if its true, ewver asked them if they'd rather have your money or the land itself?

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...I was the smartest in my region of my state in World History

Figures, if you're ocnsidered smart, people will listen to the lies you spew, no wonder they vote for Bush :rolleyes:

Would you rather a Democratic Iraq or a Nuclear Iran?

We don't have either right now. We have an invaded Iraq and an Iran being stopped from PEACEFUL nuclear activity.

The UN passed 18 resolutions, yet Saddam broke them all.

Rubbish. And the US violated the UN charter by invading Iraq.

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:wacko: That would be funny if over 100000 people hadn't died. Its sad that a few people died on September 11, but the main reason was to shake up the world economy.

I gave facts, and the main reason was to instill fear in the US culture, which failed.

bay of pigs :rolleyes:

That was to get them from under Castro.

They could do that under Saddam, I remember a lovely article about Baghdad in National Geographic from 1987, (when America was sponsoring Saddam's antics) about how much freedom women had under the Baath regime.

Why the hell would we support his antics? can you supply this article?

propaganda

I gave sources, and continuing to deny the facts constitute that you have trouble accepting reality.

Ah are you talking to the millions who live below the poverty line in the worlds richest country

We are spending more on poverty now than has ever been spent under the Clinton years. And in Britain, J_R told me this, if you go to hospital, you have no choice when it comes to your doctor. That means that a guy that got a C+ in med school could be cutting you up.

The d#ck Cheney mafia is already at it, though some of their work is being foiled by the insurgency :thbup:

But if we went for oil, wouldn't it have already been out?

Who? I've heard Tony Blair and Bush say god told them to carry out their massacres in Iraq.

Sources?

rubbish and rubbish :rolleyes:

Denial of facts, what can

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That was to get them from under Castro.

ah and get those big casino owners back in. You have no idea why the Cuban revolution happened do you?

Why the hell would we support his antics? can you supply this article?
I'll try to quote from it tomorrow. Supporting his antics = supporting his invasion of Iran, supplying him with chemical weapons. Why do you think the Iranians dont love you?
We are spending more on poverty now than has ever been spent under the Clinton years. And in Britain, J_R told me this, if you go to hospital, you have no choice when it comes to your doctor. That means that a guy that got a C+ in med school could be cutting you up.

Ah better than where you can't even afford doctors and have to come to India for important procedures?

But if we went for oil, wouldn't it have already been out?
You can't just take billions of dollars worth of oil and run. Its more about controlling one of the largest reserves in the world, and taking the money away from its rightful owners, the Iranian people.
Churchill saw the danger of Nazi Germany. He knew what was going to happen if appeasement took over.

An imperialist is an imperialist is an imperialist, be it Hitler, Bush, the British monarchs or Churchill, I don't see the difference.

What? To invade? Hitler wouldnt have let us in on D-Day, but we went in.
err Chavez has a stellar human rights record compared to the U.S, forget Hitler. Not even
So people in Iran are innocent until proven guilty under their government?

hows that relevent? you have to practise what you preach. The Iranians are not the ones promoting 'democracy'.

The U.S. control of this Cuban territory has never been popular with the Cuban government or the Cuban people. The government denounces the treaty, saying that article 52 of the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties declares a treaty void if its conclusion has been procured by the threat or use of force

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I'll try to quote from it tomorrow. Supporting his antics = supporting his invasion of Iran, supplying him with chemical weapons. Why do you think the Iranians dont love you?

Have you ever heard of the Irani Hostage Crisis? Happened in 1980, BEFORE the Iraq-Iran war.

Ah better than where you can't even afford doctors and have to come to India for important procedures?

You get what you pay for. If there is a good doctor that charges more, he has a reason to. You have a choice as to what doctors you would have operating on you. I'd rather the valedictorian from his class than a C+ graduate.

You can't just take billions of dollars worth of oil and run. Its more about controlling one of the largest reserves in the world, and taking the money away from its rightful owners, the Iranian people.

Iranians own the Iraqi oil fields?

An imperialist is an imperialist is an imperialist, be it Hitler, Bush, the British monarchs or Churchill, I don't see the difference.

You still do not understand my point. If Europe had listened to Churchill, WWII might not have lasted as long as it did.

hows that relevent? you have to practise what you preach. The Iranians are not the ones promoting 'democracy'.

There have been, I believe, three elections. That's Democracy, and not just elections where only one person's name is on the ballot. And, from Iran: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/601081013.htm

The U.S. control of this Cuban territory has never been popular with the Cuban government or the Cuban people. The government denounces the treaty, saying that article 52 of the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties declares a treaty void if its conclusion has been procured by the threat or use of force

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Pakistan said that it could be fired, and we got the #4 bomb maker for Al-Qaeda confirmed dead. You were the one who brought it up, so if you didn't, none of this would happen. Bush has stuck to his principals and hasn't wavered from his stance on terrorism, and really, where are you from? because I could tell a lot from that. Probably from Europe, where many suffer from short term memory.

yo....in the incident which i mentioned about pakistanis getting killed, not even one terrorist was found among the dead, either you are lying or you got the wrong iformation. they are human beings...n not birdflu infected chickens! yeah..i know BUSH sticks to his principles, KILL PEOPLE! i just mentioned one incident, but there are hundreds of other incidents where only innocent people are killed. if i have to keep mentioning each and everything i wont have time to study for my upcoming exams..no matter what all you say, we people are convinced that AMERICAN government are the number one terrorists..i said government and not its citizens.....adios!

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:rolleyes:

Have you ever heard of the Irani Hostage Crisis? Happened in 1980, BEFORE the Iraq-Iran war.

What about it? Iranians getting p**sed about Americans interfering in their local affairs. Good on them.

You get what you pay for.
so its fine as long as you can afford it?
Iranians own the Iraqi oil fields?

typo. nice way to avoid the question.

You still do not understand my point. If Europe had listened to Churchill, WWII might not have lasted as long as it did.
If they'd had any sense the war would never have happened anyway, doesnt make that son of a bitch a saint.
There have been, I believe, three elections. That's Democracy, and not just elections where only one person's name is on the ballot. And, from Iran:

:lol: A government held aloft by a mercenary army, which is hated by the people themselves. If its a functioning democracy, why dont you pull out your troops tomorrow, AND pull out all those bloody oil suckers that came with them?

So.......

What about Afghanistan and the Soviet Union in the 1980s?

Of course that was illegal. So was the training and arming of the Taleban by the CIA :rolleyes:
What about Iraq and Kuwait in 1990?

indeed, and Saddam paid the price. Wonder if the UNSC can sanction an invasion of Washington in retaliation to the invasion of Iraq?

If it weren't for the USA, the UN wouldn't have its headquarters on our land, or the cleaning staff for the building, or many translators.

They'd have it somewhere else :rolleyes:

Oh you believe that is a reason to violate every kind of international law in existence? :rolleyes:

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We cant pull our troops out yet. The infrastructure isn't up to snuff, and another dictatorship like Saddam's would go up. All I'm saying is that we're a big reason that the UN exists in the first place. The UN is all about appeasement, as are you.

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We cant pull our troops out yet. The infrastructure isn't up to snuff, and another dictatorship like Saddam's would go up. All I'm saying is that we're a big reason that the UN exists in the first place. The UN is all about appeasement, as are you.

okie.....and the big reason u guys are there is FOR THE OIL! and the whole world knows....behind all those diplomatic speaches we guys know there is a cunning plan you guys plot....there is no way another dictatiorship is gona come...and...did u guys find any weapons of mass distruction? you guys fake each and everything man..CONSPIRACY THEORIES n stuffs! from the landing on moon to reasons for waging war! remember bill clinton? when he was supposed to be tired in court for ****in monica (actually impeachment) he sent few war planes and launched messiles near a nuclear reactor in iraq....the excuse...bill said sadam didnt obey UN Laws and stuffs! actually he was supposed to be tried in the court where his opponents where waiting to pull him down...and no president would impeached if his country was waging war,...15 people dead in iraq(actual figures could be higher) No wonder americans are considered to be the best movie makers! :clap3: bangbros! :P

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If we were there for the oil, we would have gotten it out already. Bill Clinton passed on Osama Bin Laden 4 times from the Sudan. 4 ****ING TIMES! Did you not see the link I posted on page two of the topic? the WMDs were moved to Syria. Faking the moon landing? Are you on crack? I'm still wondering where you are from.

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I never want to forget the outrage of the 2005 USGP.

I have that race recorded. Thankfully it

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We cant pull our troops out yet. The infrastructure isn't up to snuff, and another dictatorship like Saddam's would go up. All I'm saying is that we're a big reason that the UN exists in the first place. The UN is all about appeasement, as are you.

And what would you classify Saudi Arabia as, the place that you use to launch your attacks on Iraq?

A democracy? :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol:

Why didnt Turkmenistan find a mention on the American list of 'dictatorships'? Why didnt Pakistan? Are you denying that the purported war for Democracy is merely a hypocritical justification from American self interest?

You dont take oil and run, you safeguard it for the future. BBC quite unusually has had some excellent articles on the state of Iraq in the last few days, I'd implore you to have a look at them.

If we were there for the oil, we would have gotten it out already. Bill Clinton passed on Osama Bin Laden 4 times from the Sudan. 4 ****ING TIMES! Did you not see the link I posted on page two of the topic? the WMDs were moved to Syria. Faking the moon landing? Are you on crack? I'm still wondering where you are from.

Why should we believe in this mythical figure called Bin Laden, and that he is responsible for 9/11, coming from an administration that fed the world with lies to justify the Iraq war? No thanks I choose not to believe you, until otherwise proven.

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Look at the tapes he has released. He stated that he only wanted the top floors to collapse onto the floors where the planes hit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

Without our troops in Saudi Arabia they'd be overrun by their enemies. Kuwait was where we launched our attacks from, genius.

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