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America is extracting Iraq oil as we speak. I have no doubt that America is perfectly willing to invade anyone if they need the resources.

That's not my point. Wouldn't we have gotten all the oil out as soon as we had gotten there? And the reason why we haven't gone into china is because of all the trading we do. 75% of the things at Wal-Marts across America have made in china on them. Their economy is turning towards free enterprise from communism, but the dictatorship still is in prevalance. One cannot deny Saddam's record.

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Neither can you deny China's...

And Im pretty sure mose of America's oil comes from the middle east and wait for it... IRAQ.

So they are a trading partner too!

And you still havent come up with a legitimate reason for the US to invade Iraq which has some proof behind it

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Look at Saddam. And much comes from Venezuela. Look at what the thread has degenerated to. Thanks a lot abbas.

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The simple fact of the matter is everyone around the world laughs at Bush - he's not fit to be a US president and he rarely seems to know what he's talking about. USA is always trying to overrule the UN and go straight to using military action as soon as possible. I know Blair followed USA into war but no-one in UK agrees with it - whereas is USA the people seem to think that their own personal freedom is in threat, cos thats what Bush keeps telling them.

And about the flag - what I'm trying to say is, from the outside Americans look like they are a bit arrogant and a bit TOO proud of their country, by hanging their flag outside nearly every building. Thats why its no wonder that the world loves to see Americans lose at anything.

Having said this I must point out I was in no way pleased to see people of New Orleans suffering, or in Florida. Its not really the people of America, its the nation as a whole and how its run that brings about the worldwide resentment.

Please dont say Hiroshima was a military target, you nuked a whole city of civilians

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Mother Nature has her own way of dealing with things. verything happens for a reason, everyone dies when they do for a reason! I'm a firm believer that our life is mapped out for us from our birth, but which path you take will be up to you!

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The simple fact of the matter is everyone around the world laughs at Bush - he's not fit to be a US president and he rarely seems to know what he's talking about. USA is always trying to overrule the UN and go straight to using military action as soon as possible. I know Blair followed USA into war but no-one in UK agrees with it - whereas is USA the people seem to think that their own personal freedom is in threat, cos thats what Bush keeps telling them.

And about the flag - what I'm trying to say is, from the outside Americans look like they are a bit arrogant and a bit TOO proud of their country, by hanging their flag outside nearly every building. Thats why its no wonder that the world loves to see Americans lose at anything.

Having said this I must point out I was in no way pleased to see people of New Orleans suffering, or in Florida. Its not really the people of America, its the nation as a whole and how its run that brings about the worldwide resentment.

Please dont say Hiroshima was a military target, you nuked a whole city of civilians

so, all 6 billion people laugh at him? He's been tough on national security and has stuck to his principals, like Reagan. The UN passed 18 resolutions, yet Saddam broke them all. There must be 1 person in the UK that agrees with Blair, otherwise he wouldn't be prime minister.

Remember, I am from New Orleans, or a suburb rather.

The 2nd Japanese Army was stationed there. warmaking industries were there. in fact, on August 4, 700,000 leaflets were dropped telling them to get the **** out. No one took it seriously.

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The UN passed 18 resolutions, yet Saddam broke them all.

Isnt it funny. When the UN said that Saddam was commiting crimes against humanity the American government paid great attention and told the world that this is a good reason to invade. But when the UN critized America and told them to shut down Guantanamo Bay America sipply ignored them. The USA only listens to the UN when the UN is telling them things they want to hear but when the UN says negative things about the US then the American government acts like the UN are the bad guys.

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Did you pass your history exams..............try 1945 August ;)

yup...i did pass....r u sure its 1945? anyways...its been 5 years since i passed in history or studied history...wel....i cant belive the fact that i was the cause for changing the subject! well....i too the hate american administration and their attitude....esp BUSH! wish he gets kicked out before that ****er claims more innocent lives in iraq, afganistan and pakistan! and guess what? he has now got the vote of india to oppose iran! and v all no that iran too lotsa oil under their soil....

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Would you rather a Democratic Iraq or a Nuclear Iran?

It seems to me that Europeans have a short memory. They seem to forget the Soviet Union and how they had eastern europe in a stranglehold, and how with the Marshall Plan, the USA spent billions to help rebuild europe, and let me see, what thanks have we gotten? nope? figures.

We pay Cuba to have Guantanamo. We will not give terrorists the same rights as American citizens. Let's just play God Bless America 24/7, then we'll get information.

Oh, I'm going to a district test for American History. 1st-5th goes to state. I was the smartest in my region of my state in World History, and who knows, I might get top in state.

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...I was the smartest in my region of my state in World History, and who knows, I might get top in state.

And you are still a Ferrari fan?...something should be wrong here! ;)

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are you calling us stupid, us being ferrari fans. I resent that. I might be stupid but im not too stupid to see what you were getting at.

(dont you love it when people say something like that: well, i might be stupid but im not that stupid. lol)

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George Carlin did a great excerpt on stupid people:

Some people are really stupid. And it doesn't take long to find one of them, takes you about 8 seconds. You could talk to a person and go, ump! this person is stupid! Some people have reasonable intelligence, but they're not stupid, they're full of Sh#t. Takes you about the same amount of time. Then you have some people, they're not stupid, they're not full of Sh#t, they're ****ing nuts! Dan Quayle is all three!

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Would you rather a Democratic Iraq or a Nuclear Iran?

It seems to me that Europeans have a short memory. They seem to forget the Soviet Union and how they had eastern europe in a stranglehold, and how with the Marshall Plan, the USA spent billions to help rebuild europe, and let me see, what thanks have we gotten? nope? figures.

We pay Cuba to have Guantanamo. We will not give terrorists the same rights as American citizens. Let's just play God Bless America 24/7, then we'll get information.

Oh, I'm going to a district test for American History. 1st-5th goes to state. I was the smartest in my region of my state in World History, and who knows, I might get top in state.

wot ever! please get back to the topic....and this is what i have to say to the american dudes.....your government sux.....and they are the greediest people in the world...tell them there is oil some where they would

be the 1st one to arrive.....and they wont be there with drilling machines and oil tanks but war planes and ships ..then kill the innocent people around and steal and supply them for dirt cheap prices and win popularity of their (american) citizens and win the next election....suckers! and you are not a saint to suggest or predict god is goin to bless america 24/7.......i wont be supprised to watch another dozen of planes crash in american buildings becasuse of the americans continued terrorists programs in middle east and other asian countries....last week i read that americans want to occupy and sorround china and they are starting a cold war soon....soon americans are gona wage war in iran and focus on cold war with china, if you guys didnt know about this china issue, well

bush recently visited india to negotiate a base in indian soil to sorround china, india would inturn get their state of the art fighter planes (infact fund us army to develop the next generation aircrafts).... and you think god can only see americans? you think god recognises only you guys to be civilized? well atleast in iran and iraq a man never had to worry about his wife sleeping with his neighbour, unlike in americans.....poor dudes have to hire secrete agents to look after their wifes moves....and there are more internet porn stars for every square mile in america than anyother country :clap3: loosers!

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last week i read that americans want to occupy and sorround china and they are starting a cold war soon....soon americans are gona wage war in iran and focus on cold war with china, if you guys didnt know about this china issue, well

bush recently visited india to negotiate a base in indian soil to sorround china, india would inturn get their state of the art fighter planes (infact fund us army to develop the next generation aircrafts

Thats just what we need. Luckly Australia and China have good relations as we both trade extensively with each other. China gets all their uranium from Australia as well as alot of their food while we get their inexpensive elctronic equipment. As long as China needs food they will leave us alone. That said i'd feel sorry for any country that are allies with the USA and that dont trade extensively with China.

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wot ever! please get back to the topic....and this is what i have to say to the american dudes.....your government sux.....and they are the greediest people in the world...tell them there is oil some where they would

be the 1st one to arrive.....and they wont be there with drilling machines and oil tanks but war planes and ships ..then kill the innocent people around and steal and supply them for dirt cheap prices and win popularity of their (american) citizens and win the next election....suckers! and you are not a saint to suggest or predict god is goin to bless america 24/7.......i wont be supprised to watch another dozen of planes crash in american buildings becasuse of the americans continued terrorists programs in middle east and other asian countries....last week i read that americans want to occupy and sorround china and they are starting a cold war soon....soon americans are gona wage war in iran and focus on cold war with china, if you guys didnt know about this china issue, well

bush recently visited india to negotiate a base in indian soil to sorround china, india would inturn get their state of the art fighter planes (infact fund us army to develop the next generation aircrafts).... and you think god can only see americans? you think god recognises only you guys to be civilized? well atleast in iran and iraq a man never had to worry about his wife sleeping with his neighbour, unlike in americans.....poor dudes have to hire secrete agents to look after their wifes moves....and there are more internet porn stars for every square mile in america than anyother country :clap3: loosers!

Wow. Just...wow...

Our government sucks to your logic, yet it has lasted for almost 230 years. Reeeealll smart. It shows that you really didnt pass history.

We know that there is oil in Venezuela, yet what US troops are there? Can you point them out? give me names, birth dates, home cities, relations?

I never said that God was going to, or that he wasn't going to. I merely believe that playing that 24/7 to an Islamic terrorist will get him to crack. I never said that we are the only ones he sees. Every citizen in America has their god-given rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It's a song that was written before I was born. I never cliamed anything that you posted.

We want to occupy China? Where did you find that crock of bs? Arriana Huffington's website?

Hey, everyone likes porn. And where do you get this crock that we have to hire secret agents? And they are exercising their freedoms, which you claim that we are not free! Everyone claims that they are more free than us, yet our women have that choice! In Afghanistan, if a woman wore nail polish, her hand was cut off! Do you not see how their lives have improved, or is your logic so backwards that you have to not see both sides of the issue while you look at constantly biased media in your crusade against a right cause.

If we're in a war on terrorism, why would we continue terrorist programs? Doesn't make sense, does it.

Would you rather a Democratic Iraq or a Nuclear Iran?

And where do you live? You have not 90% of the points I made in that post at all. Shows that you really avoid the issues.

So you condone toture then.

they are not American citizens

torture is no food, no drink, and broken/shattered/bent/twisted/bad limbs and such. Sleep deprivation is not torture. people can go for days without sleep, but they will need it eventually. Ever hear of the Bataan death march?

All in all, answer my points, you avoid the issue abbas, I provide examples, you change subject. Man up, accept responsibility, and answer my posts, not spewing this crap over and over and not answering any points I bring up and how the mainstream media has brainwashed you.

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And that makes it right how?

Democratic party wants to give them our rights! That cannot happen, as they are not American citizens!

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Democratic party wants to give them our rights! That cannot happen, as they are not American citizens!

So you think they should be given the rights of their country of origin instead of American rights.

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Wow. Just...wow...

Our government sucks to your logic, yet it has lasted for almost 230 years. Reeeealll smart. It shows that you really didnt pass history.

We know that there is oil in Venezuela, yet what US troops are there? Can you point them out? give me names, birth dates, home cities, relations?

I never said that God was going to, or that he wasn't going to. I merely believe that playing that 24/7 to an Islamic terrorist will get him to crack. I never said that we are the only ones he sees. Every citizen in America has their god-given rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It's a song that was written before I was born. I never cliamed anything that you posted.

We want to occupy China? Where did you find that crock of bs? Arriana Huffington's website?

Hey, everyone likes porn. And where do you get this crock that we have to hire secret agents? And they are exercising their freedoms, which you claim that we are not free! Everyone claims that they are more free than us, yet our women have that choice! In Afghanistan, if a woman wore nail polish, her hand was cut off! Do you not see how their lives have improved, or is your logic so backwards that you have to not see both sides of the issue while you look at constantly biased media in your crusade against a right cause.

If we're in a war on terrorism, why would we continue terrorist programs? Doesn't make sense, does it.

Would you rather a Democratic Iraq or a Nuclear Iran?

And where do you live? You have not 90% of the points I made in that post at all. Shows that you really avoid the issues.

they are not American citizens

torture is no food, no drink, and broken/shattered/bent/twisted/bad limbs and such. Sleep deprivation is not torture. people can go for days without sleep, but they will need it eventually. Ever hear of the Bataan death march?

All in all, answer my points, you avoid the issue abbas, I provide examples, you change subject. Man up, accept responsibility, and answer my posts, not spewing this crap over and over and not answering any points I bring up and how the mainstream media has brainwashed you.

ho that secret agnet stuff? i got that news from star world...and as i said its been nearly 5 years since i wrote history exams and i have passed and now am doing automobile engineering....yep...i read that US-china stuff in a magazine called FRONTLINE.....got any 1 in india to mail you that copy?and no what? if only guys like bush is overthrown....am sure america will have better respect among us...about porn? wel...the less said the better....am leaving this topic....dont wana make things worse....lets get back to michelin vs bridgestone!

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This is so far off-topic

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You said it, brother.

To some of the posters above: Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt. :rolleyes:

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