Gun Control (please Help)

[Autumnpuma 0]

Alas he has indeed committed crimes, although relatively minor ones! On a more serious note, so you might say this is the key and so not minor at all, songs are also made to reflect on human nature.

That one I cannot argue with, Murray! No doubt you posted this while I was editing my own post..

[Max Mosley 2]

Edit: I would, however, question the society where that drivel would be popular (my own, no doubt!).

Its popular everywhere! Though he is the mother****in' spokesman for white america. Search for the assonance and ye shall be rewarded...

[Autumnpuma 0]

Its popular everywhere! Though he is the mother****in' spokesman for white america. Search for the assonance and ye shall be rewarded...

No thank you! I live here and I know full well what depth's certain parts of my beloved society has descended into.

[pumpdoc 2]

To argue against this, we do only have a population of 59,000,000 whereas America has about triple that thus one would expect a greater amount of gun related murders, however, 11,000 is a HUGE amount. One has to think tighter gun laws are far better.

that would put us at 177 million you are about 100 million short.

I come from a family that taught gun safety and use from an early age, hell my Grandfather was a Boyscout leader in the 1920's till the early 1960's and the fine art of target shooting/ hunting was taught to all that wanted to learn.

Like Mike says there are many ways to keep you and your loved ones safe in your home with guns present, one of the first things you do is teach! teach! teach! if your guns are not a mystery to your kids they are less likely to 'play' with them.

I can remove my trigger lock and load my .357 in pleanty of time should ever the need arise and the fact that my home ammo it a type that would shatter if I missed is also a safety factor, along with the fact it is a revolver, so the chances of unloading a 15 round clip when in the panic mode is not there, besides if you are backed into your 'safe' spot and it's dark you will only need one shot because the muzzle flash will blind you and the noise/concussion will deafen you after that first shot anyway and if the bad guy isn't dead/dying he should be running to save his/her miserable sorry a##.............

Another exageration it that you can just shoot someone because they are in your home etc. you better be able to prove that the use of deadly force was in fact neccesary, eg; If you are 6' 230lbs. and the meth head that's looking to boost your pc is 5'4" 120lbs. and has no weapon you better not shoot him or you may just end up in the lock-up, a woman or child gets more leeway on this of course.

The first thing a despot does is confiscate the populations guns so that he can't be opposed by the people he's trying to oppress, our founding fathers knew this from the beggining hence the 2nd in our constitution.......

I can't believe that I've spent so much time on this and the history/Driver thread.

Again these are words not to be rebutted as they are truths pure and simple

[Autumnpuma 0]

Testifah, mah brothah!!

[Jenson_Rules 0]

Blatently reviving this thread.

After reading what I put in this, I still think thats the best way forward. And also i never got to reply to AR5 about defenceless grizzly bears... They may not be defenceless but they shouldnt be killed, it's your own fault for disturbing them in THEIR habitat in the first place!

[ykickamoocow 0]

As i said in another thread since the lastest massacre in America there have been renewed calls in Australia to tighten our already tight gun control laws. In my opinion the only people who should have guns are the armed forces, police, farmers and the people who do shooting for a living (the sport where they shoot clay pigeons) and even then i think the people involved in shooting as a sport should be restricted to the type of guns which can only carry 2 rounds at a time.

On another note im so glad that my assignment is over as it was really hard to get the information and it was almost impossible to remain reasonably unbias. Thanks to the people who answered my questions as it was really helpful.

[UrKo 0]

How could i miss this topic

1. What is yours age?

30

2. What is your gender?

male

3. Do you live in a country where they have tight gun control laws (like England) or a country with fewer laws in the area of gun control (USA).

To buy a gun in Slovenia, u must to go to medical and psychological exam + u need to be a memeber of Hunting, shooting club or a security guy. For sellers of hunting goods Like i am, i need to do the same thing, but i dont need to be in any club.

I feel that rules to buy powder and primers are to tight. Every1 that has a gun must do an exam on how to work with explosives to gain the license to buy powder and primers...of course the stupidity of our ministry is well visible, coz every1 who loads/reloads its ammo now buys powder and primers in Austria ( they will sell it to you)

Finally after 4 years of that rule, the changes will be made...btw, the cost to get that license is 150-200 euros...and it's valid for 3 yrs....no wonder that only 10 ppl applied to go to exam.

4. What is your personal opionion on gun control? Is it a good or a bad thing? Explain your answer.

The more tight gun control, less control u'll have over the users and the black market is and will grow. So my personal opinion is...If u want to have a gun, join the shooting club, get a gun and like Pumpdoc said have some fun on target shooting and also be aware of the danger.

Ppl. who have bad intentions will always get a gun on black market....like it or not...

[Moose11 0]

As i said in another thread since the lastest massacre in America there have been renewed calls in Australia to tighten our already tight gun control laws. In my opinion the only people who should have guns are the armed forces, police, farmers and the people who do shooting for a living (the sport where they shoot clay pigeons) and even then i think the people involved in shooting as a sport should be restricted to the type of guns which can only carry 2 rounds at a time.

A fair point, but not sure it would stop a psycopath hell bent on causing mayhem. Theres thousands of times more illegal guns out there than legal ones and the psycho can get hold of them pretty easily. I dont necessairly think that the school shootings in america are completely because of the ability to get a gun but as much so as it being some cultural problem with these wacked out kids who see it happen get infulenced by it and copt cat it.

[ykickamoocow 0]

The good thing about countires like Australia and New Zealand is that its alot easier to stop illegal goods coming into our respective countries due to the fact that we all like on islands so we dont have to worry about people sneaking over the border. My plane could work in my country but im not so certain it could work in countries which share borders with other countries.

[james 0]

19

Male

Iowa

We have relively few restirctive gun laws here, and I'm glad. There are very very few accidents or homocides with guns. Off the top of my head I can not think of one homocide that has occured here with a gun and can only think of one accident (which happened about 30 years ago).

Gun education is a big reason for this. There are a lot of hunters in my area. I have been hunting for the past ten years. I didn't get to carry a gun until I was twelve but I went with my father and his friends and learned through watching them. Also before someone is allowed to hunt legaly they must go through a hunter safety course. This is a start but I think it should be a madatory course taught in junior high. This way people will be taught to respect guns, not to fear them.

Some of you earlier in this thread have said that ideally you are to store your guns and ammo seperately. An unloaded gun might as well be a paperweight as that is all it is good for. The gun also shouldn't be hidden. It should be in a known place and the child, if there are any in the house should know where it is, know what it is, know what it can do, and know not to touch it. Growing up we had a gun safe and a gun cabinet. There were always a couple of guns left in the gun cabinet, usually a couple rifles and shotguns, and the ammunition was kept in the drawers of the gun cabinet. Now that all of the children are out of the house the situtation is pretty much the same only most of the guns are kept with shells in clip or magazine. So all you need to do to be ready to shoot is cycle the receiver.

As for more gun control laws, I am completely against them. The ones we already have aren't enforced well so what good are new laws gonna do.

[rumblestrip 0]

Age: 42

Gender: male

Location: Maryland, USA.

I'm pretty sure we have tight gun control laws here, since the state is predominantly democratic. But that's offset completely by being bordered by Washington DC, which at one time had the highest murder rate in the country. Since then, Gary Indiana has assumed that honor (at least it did for a while) and Indiana is almost the complete political opposite of MD. So I don't think you can really relate political leanings with the rate of gun crimes.

Views on gun control:

The US is a country with an extremely powerful gun lobby that has been very successful in keeping guns available to the public. It's my opinion that we are now in a situation where there are so many guns in the country, that there will never be a way to keep them out of the hands of criminals. They'll always be able to get guns here, whether it's by purchasing them legally, or stealing them from someone who purchased them legally. In fact there are so many guns here, if they stopped making all guns tomorrow, and confiscated all guns used in crimes, it would probably take 100 years for them to finally get rid of all the guns out there.

So, it's my opinion that gun control is a lost cause, and that it's not worth the political "damage" to pursue. By this I mean that there are thousands (millions?) of people who vote solely based on the gun issue. Many of these people are voting against their best interest, because other than the gun issue, the rest of the conservative platform isn't helping them at all.

A good example is a union worker I know. He's an avid hunter, shoots at a range, and has a gun repair business on the side. He admits that he should be voting democratic based on their position on unions and labor, but he's so afraid he'll lose his guns that he votes republican every time.

IMO the democrats need to give in on the whole gun control issue, because the country is too much of a mess for it ever to be effective. This does not mean that I agree with the popular conservative belief that the answer to crime is for EVERYONE to carry a gun at all times, but I don't think bans on guns are going to do much. Just too many guns out there.

[ykickamoocow 0]

Guys you dont need to answer the questions i asked in the first post as that was for a assignment which i handed in over 6 months ago. It is still interesting to hear everyones thoughts on this topic though.

[rumblestrip 0]

Guys you dont need to answer the questions i asked in the first post as that was for a assignment which i handed in over 6 months ago. It is still interesting to hear everyones thoughts on this topic though.

Now you tell us!

[ykickamoocow 0]

Now you tell us!

Sorry. Though it is still a good topic to have discussions especially considering recent events. I'll see if i can track down my assignment on my computer and post it if anyone wants to see it.

[UrKo 0]

Sorry. Though it is still a good topic to have discussions especially considering recent events. I'll see if i can track down my assignment on my computer and post it if anyone wants to see it.

Would be interesting to see...

[Max Mosley 2]

Yeah and since we wrote your homework for you, can you kindly tell us what mark we got?

[Niall McBride 0]

1. 19

2. Male

3. Apparently guns are outlawed in Ireland but there's still shootings going around

4. I think if guns are to be outlawed the police should still be allowed to use them for at least some sort of oppression

[ykickamoocow 0]

Yeah and since we wrote your homework for you, can you kindly tell us what mark we got?

I cant actually as i sent it in and they dont tell you what mark you get.

Ive found a earlyish version of my assignment but i cant find the completed version.

Introduction

Gun Control is a important topic in today

[AutoRacer5 0]

Blatently reviving this thread.

After reading what I put in this, I still think thats the best way forward. And also i never got to reply to AR5 about defenceless grizzly bears... They may not be defenceless but they shouldnt be killed, it's your own fault for disturbing them in THEIR habitat in the first place!

What about the old hunter-gatherers?

What about the Indians (PC term: Native Americans)? They hunted for a long time.