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#1 aussief1

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 12:51 PM

Discuss all thing to do with MotoGp here!!!!

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 01:18 PM

Stoner + Ducati = WDC!

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 07:03 PM

I agree: I think Stoner + Ducati will be very hard to beat this year. Apparently the new bike has better handling and Stoner is in good shape once again.

Of course Rossi is always there too, and that Lorenzo kid might just win a few :P
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 11:38 PM

View PostGuy Frequelin, on 14 January 2010 - 01:18 PM, said:

Stoner + Ducati = WDC!

Amen

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Let's hope so. Have you seen the new bike?? Looks good.

View PostEl Maestro, on 14 January 2010 - 07:03 PM, said:

I agree: I think Stoner + Ducati will be very hard to beat this year. Apparently the new bike has better handling and Stoner is in good shape once again.

Of course Rossi is always there too, and that Lorenzo kid might just win a few :P

Should be a great season. Epic battle between Stoner, Rossi and Lorenzo with Pedrosa always in the mix as well. Dovizioso will be the big improver I'm thinking. Will be good to see how Spies goes as well this guy comes with a reputation. Oh don't you just love new seasons!!
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 06:07 PM

Soo, I think it's about time to liven this a bit, don't you think?
So far Rossi is fastest in testing, and we won't know about Lorenzo any time soon because he went and screwed his hand training... can't say I don't see that happening, he just finds the best ways of making his life difficult... Anyway, if he has trouble and complains about lack of testing I'm holding a grudge XD

And my question is... WHY? Oh, why do I have to wait more for MotoGP than for F1?? Dammit. Every time I go to autosport.com to look for something about F1 I end up scrolling down and looking for the new stuff happening in MotoGP >.<

Help me make the wait shorter XD
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:37 PM

Valentino Rossi for champion again!
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:51 PM

Yep Rossi is looking strong, and Tanita I thought the same (no surprises ;)) when I heard about Lorenzo's incident.

Can't wait for the season to start, here is an appetiser for you Tanitaaaa

Hopefully we'll be seeing more of that this year!
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:58 PM

View PostNivola, on 04 March 2010 - 09:51 PM, said:

Hopefully we'll be seeing more of that Tanita this year!
Again, don't mention it. No, really.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 10:41 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 04 March 2010 - 09:58 PM, said:

Again, don't mention it. No, really.

You do realise it will be like having two of me post?
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 11:59 AM

View PostNivola, on 04 March 2010 - 09:51 PM, said:

Can't wait for the season to start, here is an appetiser for you Tanitaaaa

Hopefully we'll be seeing more of that this year!
Yay, I do hope so! But I'd rather have some more of the action going on in my sig, because this year I'm 90% sure I'll be going to the Catalunya race :D

View PostQuiet One, on 04 March 2010 - 09:58 PM, said:

Again, don't mention it. No, really.
Hahah, I always come to the MotoGP thread, and if F1 proves to be as good as we're hoping for I won't neglect the rest of the forums either^^

View PostNivola, on 04 March 2010 - 10:41 PM, said:

You do realise it will be like having two of me post?

Or two of me, you doppelganger! And you didn't even get my looks, pseh... :P
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 12:42 PM

Dovi should be a front runner hopefully. Anybody but Rossi/Stoner to win lol.
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 02:06 PM

View Postfreaky2, on 05 March 2010 - 11:59 AM, said:

Yay, I do hope so! But I'd rather have some more of the action going on in my sig, because this year I'm 90% sure I'll be going to the Catalunya race :D


Hahah, I always come to the MotoGP thread, and if F1 proves to be as good as we're hoping for I won't neglect the rest of the forums either^^



Or two of me, you doppelganger! And you didn't even get my looks, pseh... :P

Oh I hope you go, that would be pretty cool. If you do, make sure to take plenty of snaps for us..

As for the bolded part: don't remind me! :( :D

View PostKopite Girl, on 05 March 2010 - 12:42 PM, said:

Dovi should be a front runner hopefully. Anybody but Rossi/Stoner to win lol.

Dovi is cool, fer sure. He's got the hair right, he just needs to work on his performances.
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 04:35 PM

View PostNivola, on 04 March 2010 - 10:41 PM, said:

You do realise it will be like having two of me post?
Oh, well...in that case...
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 04:13 PM

I watch many races because it's entertaining and I like the guys commenting on TVE but I never fully enjoy it like a great F1 Grand Prix. Probably because I've never driven a bike, but I have to acknowlege I'd love to see a few MGP ingredients in F1.

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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 04:27 PM

I forgot about this thread. But yep, F1 has plenty to learn from MotoGP. Then again they are different beasts altogether so I'm not sure it's possible.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 06:10 PM

Great idea to start a MotoGP 2010 thread. The other MotoGP thread is getting too long and loose.

The 125cc race is just over and, wow, it's reason enough to follow the sport. I know some people scorn 125cc but what an error. In the first two laps, there were more passings than a entire F1 race. In the 125cc race as a whole, there were more passings than an entire F1 season. We are talking about 7 front riders constantly overtaking each other several times in each lap. A wonder to watch.

I've said often that passings, in themselves, are not that important to me but, well, they are important for many others. 125cc and other categories of MotoGP deliver these plenty and then some.

Of note, the entire podium is Spaniard. It seems that the long-time dominance of Italian riders might be coming to an end. They still rule by stats but only just. So, congrats to the Spanish fans.

AleHop, you said you've never riden a bike. Hey, it is an easy problem to solve. Buying a new road 125cc cost less than 3,000 bucks. Sure, you will hear many folk argue that 125cc bikes are a joke but they are completely wrong. Unless you are a truly big or a heavy guy, 125cc's are the best way to start, to learn how to trace and brake. They are fun, light, and easy to ride. They don't have the grunt but, honestly, who cares. Many riders jump directly to 600cc and siimilar and it is a huge error because they never learn the basics... for instance, riding slow. It might seem odd, but riding fast is easier than riding slow. The guys that start with large bikes often don't learn how to handle a bike when it matters. Moreover, generally 125cc require no special license other than your regular driver's license (it does depend on the country, of course).

It is true that the larger the bike, the safer it is. It might be counterintuitive but it is a fact. Larger bikes give you better tyres, brakes, chasis, all. Don't forget that the total area of contact with the tarmac is no bigger than a _credit_card_ which is no joke at all.

Also, there are those that claim that if you don't start to ride before you are 30, you will never learn to ride well. It's bulls##t. It's a matter of attitude not age.

I could go on and will do so if there is interest. No problem on my part if anyone wants some advice. Bikes are a great way to have fun, relax, enjoy the landscape... and scratch the "ride to die" creed of some. I've done my share of stupid things on a bike therewhen. Nowadays, I understand the most important skill is to stay on the bike regardless of what comes your way be that rain, snow, gravel, whatever.

As always, though, and more so considering what has happened to Steph, never forget that car or bike, the most dangerous thing on the road, by far, are other drivers. Thus, always ride/drive defensively. The second most dangerous thing is a thug with a batch (that is, some ugly cops) but this is a distant second danger and it usually only involves cash.

On with the 250cc race, err, the Moto2 race...
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 07:01 PM

I love the grunt/weight ratio of 250cc bikes and had misgivings about the new Moto2 category. Well, the riders have delivered. Great race.

Solid win by Tomizawa. Intelligent and brave 2nd place for Debon... and a 4th podium for a Spaniard so far. Special mention to the courage shown by an injured Elias with a most deserved 4th place.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:58 PM

A _spectacular_ start to the season. Very good MotoGP race.

Stoner must be mentioned first. He had it won and crashed it out. For those that know him only of late, you should be aware that Stoner was a crasher. In fact, he literally crashed his way up through the lower categories, being consistently beaten by the likes of Pedrosa among many. When Stoner got to MotoGP, he gave us all an enormous surprise by his unsual skill. However, last season problems plus this crash... well, let's hope it is not an old pattern and, rather, an exeception brought about by eagerness.

Rossi had it easy once Stoner did himself off. Rossi managed the race like the pro he is. Kudos to him.

Lorenzo was, again, uncharacteristically patient for most of the race. When it matters, though, he was tough and brave. Brilliant ride by him and a well deserved 2nd... and a 5th podium for a Spaniard (out of a possible 9).

Dovizioso got what Hayden didn't, a faster bike. That said, Dovizioso rode aggressively and consistently, something we didn't see from him in previous seasons.

Hayden deserved the 3rd that Dovizioso won but should walk away happy. His evolution in Ducati is commendable. This is a difficult bike that seems designed for Stoner and Stoner alone. I like Hayden as a rider and truly hope he keeps it up.

Spies could've not started his journy in MotoGP better. Expecting more of him would be absurd. He rode a solid race and shows a future full of possibilities.

Mentioned should be made of Pedrosa that started like pure thunder to then miserably fade away. There have been talks of setup and development problems with the Honda but Dovizioso's performance says otherwise. Truth be said, and despite his 4 world championships, Pedrosa has to start delivering in MotoGP or he will have to find a bike elsewhere.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:03 PM

It's so hard to say something different, I think most of us agree about everything that happened in the races! I loved the overtaking when Dovi tried to go for Rossi, and the way Lorenzo got to second, he's got some balls!!
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 10:44 PM

Excellent race to start the season (what a contrast to F1's opener!), and I agree with everything maure and Tanita said so I won't repeat it :thbup:
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:21 PM

View Postmaure, on 11 April 2010 - 06:10 PM, said:

AleHop, you said you've never riden a bike. Hey, it is an easy problem to solve...
I completely agree with you maure but I think it's a bit late for me. Not my age, mainly my health, but thank you for your sincere advice. Maybe in the future if I feel alright and I move to the countryside it could be great fun.

It's been a good start but I enjoyed 250cc the most.

Fray Luis de León said:

As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 02:23 AM

View PostAleHop, on 11 April 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:

I completely agree with you maure but I think it's a bit late for me. Not my age, mainly my health, but thank you for your sincere advice. Maybe in the future if I feel alright and I move to the countryside it could be great fun.

Sorry to hear you have health problems. Didn't know.

Keep your chin up.

View PostAleHop, on 11 April 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:

It's been a good start but I enjoyed 250cc the most.

You mean that you enjoyed the old 250cc category better or that you enjoyed the Moto2 race the most? I say this because the new category (Moto2) runs on 600cc and has replaced the 250cc.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:41 PM

View Postmaure, on 12 April 2010 - 02:23 AM, said:

You mean that you enjoyed the old 250cc category better or that you enjoyed the Moto2 race the most? I say this because the new category (Moto2) runs on 600cc and has replaced the 250cc.
I thought it was still 250cc. I'm a complete ignorant, there was a good bit of action in that race. An accident early in the first lap and a few fights between three drivers altogether which I enjoyed a lot (but don't ask me for their names). Posted Image

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As we were saying yesterday...
Fray Luis de León wrote mystical poems which prompted Cervantes to proclaim León "a genius who astounds the world and who, in ecstasy, might rob us of our senses." León was also an active man who taught at the University of Salamanca, translated classical and biblical literature, and wrote on religious themes. Twice denounced before the Inquisition, he was imprisoned for "heresy," though he returned to the University to later hold the chairs of Moral Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:07 PM

Good race last night. A bit p1ssed off by how it was covered by the BBC though. You could only watch it live through the website, which I did, albeit without volume for some issues I had. Then I recorded the highlights programme, only to find that the stupid golf had overun. I got to see the race which was good, but it cut off before I got to hear Rossi or Dovizioso.

Great race though, really enjoyed it. Some fantastic action and lots of overtaking. MotoGP is one of my firm favourites in the motorsport diciplines I follow now.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:34 PM

Yep, MotoGP is quality. Qatar isn't even one of the best tracks for overtaking.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:43 PM

View PostJHS, on 12 April 2010 - 07:07 PM, said:

only to find that the stupid golf had overun.

Just because you don't like golf (I don't either) doesn't mean it shouldn't be shown. Look at it this way: if a live race you were watching went over it's timeslot, you'd want the BBC to stick to their committment and show the entire race rather than cut it short. Golf fans felt the same way then. You have to prioritize; it was the biggest golf thing (match? tournament? game?) of the year and probably had good viewership, so they couldn't just say "LOL YOU'LL NEVER KNOW" especially when a highlights program, and not a live event, was following.

Carry on.

I would have liked to have seen the race, though I have an odd relationship with MotoGP (I do like the excitement, though I'm just not a bike guy...so I watch randomly. I guess it's not different from car racing since I'm not a car guy, either), but there's really no way for me to watch MotoGP so I missed out on that.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 10:03 AM

No, I know, I'm just annoyed by the way it was handled. There is a red button, you know, that BBC could have switched the golf to that instead to keep to schedule.
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 07:01 PM

They'll put the program with the most viewership or the program that is LIVE over anything. Complaining about TV coverage is overrated. :)

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 08:42 PM

Man, who swallowed the sensible pill? :P
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:32 PM

I cannot believe my luck!!!!

After the events of late, I have just lucked into 2 Moto GP Hospitality tickets at Silverstone on the 18th June for £20 a go. So I got 2.

If I cant ride a bike just yet, I will bloody go watch them! In style. TWENTY QUID!!! HOSPITALITY SEATS!!!! PFFFWAWAWAWA WOOP!

So, by that time I should be out of hospital, hopefully. I dont bloody care, I'm going! WOOP WOOP!
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