Going through the action that happened today it seems it was just so bloody exciting... Teams were swopping positions constantly (we had the most champions in one day) once they were on slicks...
Day ended like this...
So the first day of the final test ends with the order:
Red Bull
Mercedes
Toro Rosso
Williams
McLaren
Sauber
Force India
Ferrari
Marussia
Caterham
Lotus
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The Third And Final Test (Yes, It's Still Not Cricket)
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:21 PM
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:40 PM
Hey Braddles....that's my joke you're using...I have IP rights to that you know!!
Red Bull sucks...nur nur...
Vettel sucks...nur nur....
Kimi sucks....nur nur...
Vacuums suck...nur nur...
Red Bull sucks...nur nur...
Vettel sucks...nur nur....
Kimi sucks....nur nur...
Vacuums suck...nur nur...
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:16 PM
HandyNZL, on 28 February 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:
Hey Braddles....that's my joke you're using...I have IP rights to that you know!!
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:55 PM
My lawyers don't know the word "dandy".... 
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:04 PM
From our "friend" over at the bbc
BBC F1 technical analyst Gary Anderson in Barcelona:
"The Red Bull looks well balanced with lots of grip. The McLaren and Sauber have understeer (a lack of front grip) and the Lotus is well balanced but not as planted as the Red Bull. The Ferrari lacks rear grip. It really has no traction in the wet."
BBC F1 technical analyst Gary Anderson in Barcelona:
"The Red Bull looks well balanced with lots of grip. The McLaren and Sauber have understeer (a lack of front grip) and the Lotus is well balanced but not as planted as the Red Bull. The Ferrari lacks rear grip. It really has no traction in the wet."
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:13 PM
Bianchi has been confirmed at Marussia. Razia has been axed.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:42 PM
Testing?
Senna to that, I say!
Too much testing this winter. Let's get racing!
Senna to that, I say!
Too much testing this winter. Let's get racing!
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:42 PM
JHS18, on 01 March 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:
Bianchi has been confirmed at Marussia. Razia has been axed.
Is this where I make a terrible Be-yankee joke, implying that there is now a U.S. American on the grid? Or should I stop myself? Please advise.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:38 PM
Don't. Just don't.
Advice given.
Advice given.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:40 PM
BradSpeedMan, on 01 March 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:
From our "friend" over at the bbc
BBC F1 technical analyst Gary Anderson in Barcelona:
"The Red Bull looks well balanced with lots of grip. The McLaren and Sauber have understeer (a lack of front grip) and the Lotus is well balanced but not as planted as the Red Bull. The Ferrari lacks rear grip. It really has no traction in the wet."
BBC F1 technical analyst Gary Anderson in Barcelona:
"The Red Bull looks well balanced with lots of grip. The McLaren and Sauber have understeer (a lack of front grip) and the Lotus is well balanced but not as planted as the Red Bull. The Ferrari lacks rear grip. It really has no traction in the wet."
Gary Anderson stating the obvious in regards to driving in the wet.
Perhaps instead of saying understeer, he should say that both drivers are turning in too tight on the corners.
Does he forget that drivers induce understeer, especially in the wet (or if it's their natural style)???
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:41 PM
JHS18, on 01 March 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:
Bianchi has been confirmed at Marussia. Razia has been axed.
I feel.......
....non-commital about it all.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:09 PM
HandyNZL, on 01 March 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:
I feel.......
....non-commital about it all.
....non-commital about it all.
FFS!
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
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"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:26 PM
I'm glad for Bianchi. At least he finally gets a chance. Hopefully the Marussia is an improvement on the last three cars and we get to see what he is capable of. I certainly look forward to him humiliating Chilton.
But poor Razia. That has to go down as the shortest time that anybody has ever been an F1 driver.
But poor Razia. That has to go down as the shortest time that anybody has ever been an F1 driver.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:33 PM
JHS18, on 01 March 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:
I'm glad for Bianchi. At least he finally gets a chance. Hopefully the Marussia is an improvement on the last three cars and we get to see what he is capable of. I certainly look forward to him humiliating Chilton.
But poor Razia. That has to go down as the shortest time that anybody has ever been an F1 driver.
But poor Razia. That has to go down as the shortest time that anybody has ever been an F1 driver.
Razia was set to make his competitive debut at the 2013 Australian Grand Prix, driving for Marussia, however his skill level was revealed and swifty Murussia moved to terminate his contract he was replaced by Jules Bianchi.[11] Razia has vowed to murder that Fenchie and reclaim his prize.
As for the shortest time the honors still belong to Mario Apicella, imho. Mario drove his car for 800 meters at Monza in 1993 before binning his Jordan, never to be seen again in F1. Unlike Razia, Mario was not test driver before and, again unlike Razia, he actually made it to an F1 race. So he drove less time but "more officially" than Luiz.
By the way, the other Jordan driver was a certain Rubens Barrichello, who retired on that same crash...
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the Universe, and it has a longer shelf life" - Frank Zappa
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 04:00 AM
HandyNZL, on 01 March 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:
Gary Anderson stating the obvious in regards to driving in the wet.
Perhaps instead of saying understeer, he should say that both drivers are turning in too tight on the corners.
Does he forget that drivers induce understeer, especially in the wet (or if it's their natural style)???
Perhaps instead of saying understeer, he should say that both drivers are turning in too tight on the corners.
Does he forget that drivers induce understeer, especially in the wet (or if it's their natural style)???
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 04:06 AM
ok, so Kimi up for some testing..nothing else matters now, well maybe except Vettel might blitz the field come the Aussie qualifying, which would be just dandy (bar Lawyers interruptions)
Nothing else matters folks
Nothing else matters folks
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:47 AM
BradSpeedMan, on 02 March 2013 - 04:00 AM, said:
Craig my friend, what are you talking about
Let me explain:
How often have you heard a driver say "it's got understeer on the way in, and oversteer on the way out. The car is useless"
Chances are, the driver is useless.
If you are travelling too fast as you enter a corner, then you will have understeer as the front tyres are past their slip angle, and have no grip. Thus the car tends to continue in an ever widening arc.
The drivers first reaction, as it is for anyone with understeer, is to turn in even more. Of course this exaaggerates the problem, until such time that the car slows enough through the corner for the front tyres to slow enough and gain some grip.
And then, because they get get, and the car, with wheels now pointing tighter than one would want, makes the back end lose grip, and the rear of the car steps out. This is oversteer.
So, the problem is not actually the car. The problem is the driver.
If you enter the corner at the right speed, one that is fast enough to maintain the quickest arc through the corner and maintains the tyres just inside their slip angle, then you will 1) maintain grip 2) have faster exit speed 3) won't have understeer in, and oversteer out and 4) realise it wasn't the car, but you, you noddy driver, you.
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:49 AM
BradSpeedMan, on 02 March 2013 - 04:06 AM, said:
ok, so Kimi up for some testing..nothing else matters now, well maybe except Vettel might blitz the field come the Aussie qualifying, which would be just dandy (bar Lawyers interruptions)
Nothing else matters folks
Nothing else matters folks
Except when Kimi has a hangover and can't test. He's pulled out.
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:01 AM
HandyNZL, on 02 March 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:
Chances are, the driver is useless.
I was pulling yer leg you Kiwi , but thanks for the explantion
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:28 PM
HandyNZL, on 02 March 2013 - 08:49 AM, said:
Except when Kimi has a hangover and can't test. He's pulled out.
Would be interesting to see the total laps covered by drivers. I have a feeling Kimi has the least by a fair amount, first due to Lotus' unreliability during the first two days of the previous test, and now this food poisoning. Here's hoping he gets some mileage tomorrow so that he's not completely unprepared come Melbourne. Ironically, while almost all the other teams changed the days for the drivers so that each would have a dry day to test, apparently Lotus kept Kimi for the last two dry days and Romain for the rainy days exactly for the reason that Kimi hadn't had as much driving time yet as Romain had. Now he loses even more.
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 06:08 PM
We had Gary Anderson doing F1 commentary up till 2011, and apart from an overuse of the words "sort of", the conclusions he comes up with are quite obvious to those observant enough. What i mean is that he calls it as he sees it. Now, that doesn't make his observation wrong, but it gets tiresome after a bit.
And when you realise that he's the numpty who designed the Jag F1 car without a wind tunnel, it becomes obvious why he has found second wind in broadcasting rather than a team position
And when you realise that he's the numpty who designed the Jag F1 car without a wind tunnel, it becomes obvious why he has found second wind in broadcasting rather than a team position
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:13 AM
and Kimi is sidelined with ANOTHER gearbox problem, the car seems pretty unreliable. Well, looks like I'm going to have to support Vettel for his fourth title....
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:32 AM
Rosberg and Alonso setting very fast times on softs, just off on hamie's time though...qualifying in Melbourne is gonna be a thriller
Edited by BradSpeedMan, 03 March 2013 - 10:33 AM.
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
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