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#1 monza gorilla

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 10:52 AM

Britain’s most recent Formula 1 world champion, Damon Hill, looks set to return to frontline action in the Grand Prix Masters series.

The former Williams ace retired disillusioned from Formula 1 at the end of 1999. and vowed never to race again after a disappointing final season with Jordan.

But now the recently elected president of the BRDC looks set to make a triumphant return to racing in the self-styled senior’s tour alongside other champions such as Nigel Mansell and Emerson Fittipaldi.

“I am very tempted by the series,” Hill told weekly newspaper Motorsport News.

“I have spoken to Nigel Mansell about it and it sounds very exciting.”

Hill could make his debut as early as the August 13 round at Silverstone – scene of his British Grand Prix victory in 1994.

The 46-year-old added that he would relish the prospect of racing against his former Williams team-mate Mansell.

The pair competed together for four races in 1994, when Mansell shared the Williams seat left vacant by the death of Ayrton Senna with David Coulthard.

But by that stage Hill was the team’s designated title contender and Mansell was very much in the back-up role.

Damon says he would love to see how the pair would match up on equal terms.

“I never did get the chance to race against him properly in Formula 1, because the timing just wasn’t right,” he said.

“In fact, I spent most of my early career being a test monkey for Nigel so I would love to get out there and give him a run for his money.”

Hill has not raced competitively since quitting F1, and despite always maintaining he had no interest in returning to that side of the sport, Damon admitted a recent run in a pukka DTM Mercedes at Brands Hatch had rekindled his fire.

“You should never say never,” he said.

“Driving that car made me think twice about not racing again.”

Quadruple world champion Alain Prost has also been linked to GPM, although it remains unclear when the Frenchman will make his debut.

Source: ITV-F1



:thbup: Yes please. More of this. I may be accused of living in the past, but this series currently holds more attraction for me than F1. A sad thing to say, but true nonetheless.
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 12:55 PM

Never was a fan of Hill's, but would make this series a lot more competive :thbup:
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 12:59 PM

If they can get 20 cars on the grid I think it will really take off. So the more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 01:18 PM

Indeed!!
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 06:36 PM

Russ, I completely agree with you. The Master's series is far more interesting to me that Formula 1 (even though I'm only reading about it...draw what conclusions you will from that ;) ). I wonder...how does Bernie feel to have a series with more potential interest than Formula 1? Perhaps he has a hand in delaying the start of this series..? If he were on the ball, he could perhaps run some of the Master's races during a GP weekend.

I'm all for Hill entering the series. It will be interesting to see what he can do when he's not in a superior car or getting the full support of a team. Mansell is the benchmark and so far, no one can match him. I think Hill could make the races a bit closer. Also, I'm getting the sense that Hill is now racing for himself, instead of trying to catch Graham's ghost. This is a good thing, if true...

Now I await the announcement of Prost entering the series...
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:04 PM

I just want to know who decided that Eddie Cheeveball is a "GP Master..."   :wacko:
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:19 PM

I just checked the official GP Master's website (haven't checked it in a while)

ALAIN PROST IS DRIVING??!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 10:58 AM

View PostYoda McFly, on Jul 26 2006, 08:04 PM, said:

I just want to know who decided that Eddie Cheeveball is a "GP Master..."   :wacko:
dont worry its also got andrea de cesaris, christian danner, and even a couple of guys i've never even heard of! Prost and Hill should give Mansell a run for his money. Its the early 90's all over again, hooray!

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 12:10 AM

I predict this finishing order in most of the races:

1) Prost
2) Mansell
3) Hill

Cheever....somewhere in the middle.

De Cesaris...somwhere in the grass.

It's very wrong that I'm more excited about the prospect of reading the race reports of GPM than of seeing the German GP...
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Posted 29 July 2006 - 07:29 PM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Jul 28 2006, 05:10 PM, said:

I predict this finishing order in most of the races:

1) Prost
2) Mansell
3) Hill

Cheever....somewhere in the middle.

De Cesaris...somwhere in the grass.

It's very wrong that I'm more excited about the prospect of reading the race reports of GPM than of seeing the German GP...

More likely Cheever running into De Cesaris :mf_tongue:  I mean good lord he's only a backmarker in gIRL races

Edited by pumpdoc, 29 July 2006 - 07:31 PM.

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 07:31 PM

View Postpumpdoc, on Jul 29 2006, 12:29 PM, said:

More likely Cheever running into De Cesaris :mf_tongue:

:clap3:  :lol:

I dusted off my forum account over at speedtv and posted a thread about the pitiful 'Highlighs' package that they are showing of the GPM. Pathetic. I hope tons of people add to that thread....

...we need the races, not the highlights...

Edited by Autumnpuma, 29 July 2006 - 07:32 PM.

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 08:18 PM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Jul 29 2006, 12:31 PM, said:

:clap3:  :lol:

I dusted off my forum account over at speedtv and posted a thread about the pitiful 'Highlighs' package that they are showing of the GPM. Pathetic. I hope tons of people add to that thread....

...we need the races, not the highlights...

Don't count on it those type of threads have habit of dissapearing real quick :nono1:
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Posted 30 July 2006 - 05:19 AM

View Postpumpdoc, on Jul 29 2006, 01:18 PM, said:

Don't count on it those type of threads have habit of dissapearing real quick :nono1:

:lol:  You're probably right. I had to try.
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 03:32 PM

The plot thickens..............



Damon Hill will test a Grand Prix Masters car on Thursday to familiarise himself with the 600bhp machine ahead of a possible race debut at Silverstone this weekend.

The 1996 world champion has expressed an interest in taking part in the series for retired Formula 1 drivers and has been in talks with the GP Masters organisers about joining the grid at his home event.

A spokesman for the series confirmed that Hill will try the car out during three hours of free practice on Thursday ahead of the official start of the meeting on Friday.

Organisers emphasised that at this stage Hill has not confirmed his intention to race.

However it is believed that he will use the test session to get a feel for the car and determine whether he wants to compete this weekend.

Hill last drove a single-seater when he sampled a GP2 car at Paul Ricard in June 2005.

He also had a recent outing in a Mercedes-Benz DTM car at Brands Hatch, an experience which he said made him have second thoughts about hanging up his helmet.

If he races this weekend, Hill will be the third former world champion in the GP Masters field, along with 1992 title-holder Nigel Mansell and 1972 and ’74 champ Emerson Fittipaldi.
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 06:26 PM

I think it would be a good thing to have the BRDC President actively racing, especially at Silverstone. I hope he finds the cars as much fun as the rest of the 'Masters' find them.

Russ (or anyone else), do you know why Prost is listed on the official GPM website but not confirmed as a driver? Seems a bit odd to me but here in the States, I'm not privy to the latest info..
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 08:47 PM

Let's hope Hill drives and Is not using this just to promote Silverstone and the Masters series!!  :mf_tongue:

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 09:32 PM

View PostGeordie, on Aug 8 2006, 01:47 PM, said:

Let's hope Hill drives and Is not using this just to promote Silverstone and the Masters series!!  :mf_tongue:

Hah! I hadn't thought of that! I hope he's serious as well..cheap promotions bore me...
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View PostAutumnpuma, on Aug 8 2006, 07:26 PM, said:

I think it would be a good thing to have the BRDC President actively racing, especially at Silverstone. I hope he finds the cars as much fun as the rest of the 'Masters' find them.

Russ (or anyone else), do you know why Prost is listed on the official GPM website but not confirmed as a driver? Seems a bit odd to me but here in the States, I'm not privy to the latest info..


Prost will not commit to the series. He says he wants to race but for some unknown reason he just won't sign up. I don't believe we'll be seeing him in GP Masters any time soon.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 02:00 PM

View Postmonza gorilla, on Jul 26 2006, 12:52 PM, said:

Britain’s most recent Formula 1 world champion, Damon Hill, looks set to return to frontline action in the Grand Prix Masters series.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 08:10 AM

Danner on pole for Silverstone (itv-F1.com):

Nigel Mansell may have won both Grand Prix Masters rounds held to date, but the 1992 world champion will need all his legendary overtaking skills to continue that streak in his home race at Silverstone after a disastrous qualifying session on Saturday consigned him to the back of the grid.

Mansell managed just one slow lap before a radiator hose detached itself as he braked for Vale, pitching him into a spin and bringing his session to a premature conclusion.

Christian Danner stepped into the breach to take a hard-fought pole position with a lap of 1m36.916s/118.64mph. The lanky German won the inaugural Formula 3000 championship in 1985 but spent his Formula 1 career with back-of-the-grid teams Zakspeed, Osella, Arrows and Rial. He edged out former Ferrari and McLaren star Stefan Johansson by just 16 thousandths of a second, with a similarly infinitesimal margin separating the Swede from local hero Derek Warwick. “I was lucky to finish the session ahead of Stefan and Derek, as it was very close,” Danner said modestly. “The car is easy to set up and I was able to dial it into my driving style. It’s so much fun to drive a car with this much power on big slick tyres around a track like this – you think you’re never going to make it through the corner, and yet it manages to find the grip.”

Johansson overcame some minor engine mapping problems in the morning and, like Danner, is relishing the high-speed challenge of Silverstone after the first two GP Masters races were held on the more pedestrian Kyalami and Losail (Qatar) circuits. “The long fast corners of Silverstone are such a challenge, and I’ve always loved to drive on circuits like this. You can really push it,” he enthused.

Warwick admitted to over-driving slightly in his efforts to grab pole for his home race, and also lost time on his best lap when he fluffed a gearchange on his best lap. “I mistakenly went up from fourth to sixth gear as I exited Becketts and the car bogged right down,” he related. “I went back for new tyres but on my last run pushed a bit too hard. I think I just got a bit frustrated with myself and over-drove.”

Riccardo Patrese took fourth on the grid ahead of Jan Lammers, who was relieved to see that his competitive juices were still flowing when he got held up by Andrea de Cesaris in the slow complex. “I was pleased today because I managed to get quite upset, and that just shows how much we care!”

Meanwhile the two former world champions in the field, Mansell and Emerson Fittipaldi – who went head-to-head for victory in the first GPM race last November – had a frustrating time of it. Fittipaldi was trying hard but could only manage the eighth-fastest time after struggling with understeer, while mechanical problems severely restricted Mansell’s running. The Brummie had to sit out the morning practice session and didn’t appear until two-thirds of the way through qualifying, whereupon the car swapped ends on him at Vale. “There was a hydraulic lock on the water system which blew one of the pipes off,” he explained. “Then I had a huge spin at about 170mph, which woke me up a bit! Knowing the problems we have, I parked it as soon as I could so we didn’t destroy the engine. Success tomorrow will be tough, coming from the back of the grid. Plus I’ve had so little running. I’m not holding my breath, but I would love to have a great race tomorrow.”

The top half of the field was impressively closely matched – with the four quickest drivers covered by 0.171s and less than a second blanketing the top eight. However the meeting has been overshadowed so far by persistent engine problems that have forced organisers to limit drivers’ mileage and share out the healthy cars as equitably as possible.

It seems that engine builder Nicholson-McLaren changed the specification of the crankshafts – unbeknownst to the GPM organisers – after discovering cracks following the last race in Qatar. The new parts have triggered a series of main bearing failures due to inadequate lubrication, and 10 engines have blown since practice began on Thursday. GPM mechanics have been labouring tirelessly to re-fit the old crankshafts – completing no fewer than 32 engine changes by Saturday afternoon – but reliability remains a concern heading into Sunday’s race.


Qualifying times for Silverstone GP Masters

1.  DANNER          1m36.916s
2.  JOHANSSON       1m36.932s
3.  WARWICK         1m36.982s
4.  PATRESE         1m37.087s
5.  LAMMERS         1m37.242s
6.  CHEEVER         1m37.492s
7.  DE CESARIS      1m37.761s
8.  FITTIPALDI      1m37.859s
9.  STUCK           1m38.511s
10. SALAZAR         1m40.314s
11. TAMBAY          1m40.532s
12. ARNOUX          1m42.390s
13. MANSELL         1m46.973s
14. VAN DE POELE    no time
15. MARTINI         no time

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I wonder if Mansell's pace had anything to do with Hill not wanting to compete? I seem to recall that when they were both teammates at Williams, Hill had to really push himself just to outqualify Mansell. In those days, some believed (I among them) that Mansell was not allowed to truly race Damon.

On that same note, I wonder if Prost is thinking the same...? No idea on this one, just throwing thoughts out there. I would rank Prost as faster than Mansell, but who knows how Prost would rank Mansell :eusa_think:

For the race, my money's on Danner, but such is il Leone's fierce skill that I cannot completely rule him out.

Edited by Autumnpuma, 13 August 2006 - 08:21 AM.

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 02:13 PM

Cheever wins Silverstone GP Masters
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Eddie Cheever won an incident-filled Grand Prix Masters race at Silverstone with a textbook performance in treacherous wet conditions.

The 48-year-old American took the lead on the third lap and got the better of an entertaining race-long duel with Eric van de Poele, who brilliantly charged through from the back of the grid.

Polesitter Christian Danner came home third ahead of Hans Stuck, Alex Caffi and Riccardo Patrese, on a day when, by and large, the lesser names upstaged the established stars.

The race was an unmitigated disaster for crowd favourites Nigel Mansell and Derek Warwick.

Mansell spun on the formation lap and received lengthy attention in the pits while his mechanics tried to get to the bottom of what was causing the car’s evil handling.

They corrected an alignment problem and Mansell rejoined for a couple of exploratory forays, but after several further low-speed spins the 1992 world champion sadly parked ‘Red 5’ for good.

It transpired that the differential had exploded on his way to the grid, causing an uneven distribution of power between the rear wheels and making the car impossible to drive.

Warwick started third but spun at Luffield at the end of the first lap while avoiding Jan Lammers, who had gyrated in front of him.

Derek kept the engine running but soon afterwards collided with Rene Arnoux on the approach to Stowe and had to retire with broken suspension.

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:35 PM

The one time I hated to see an American win. :mf_tongue:
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 10:10 PM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Aug 13 2006, 05:35 PM, said:

The one time I hated to see an American win. :mf_tongue:

Really?!  An American driver has only stood on the top step of an F1 podium 33 times in the history of the sport.  Moreover, Scott Speed is flying the flag for you at the moment.  I would milk this result if I were you!  From my point of view it was a shame that Mansell had gremlins.  Although I was never a fan of his in his prime, he is my favoured driver in the GPM.
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 10:24 PM

View PostSenna, on Aug 14 2006, 03:10 PM, said:

Really?!  An American driver has only stood on the top step of an F1 podium 33 times in the history of the sport.  Moreover, Scott Speed is flying the flag for you at the moment.  I would milk this result if I were you!  From my point of view it was a shame that Mansell had gremlins.  Although I was never a fan of his in his prime, he is my favoured driver in the GPM.

I admire driver skill, not driver nationality, and under that microscope, Cheever doesn't rate my admiration. A few 4th places in Formula 1 isn't too shabby, but also nothing to crow about! I regret that American drivers look more to our homegrown motorsports than to face off against the best of the world. I think the quality of American drivers in Formula 1 would improve if we would compete against the International community. As it stands now, we see the courageous Americans enter Formula 1, but not really the best.

I, too, favor Mansell in the GPM but I wish he'd have stiffer competition.
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 10:56 PM

I agree with you wholeheartedly.  Cheever did finish second on a couple of occasions but, as you say, was nothing special by F1’s high standards.  Regarding the competition within the GPM, I was hoping that Damon Hill would join the series but that looks highly unlikely for the foreseeable future.  Although a fair few nationalities are represented in the GPM, there is an obvious dearth of big-name drivers.  This must be remedied if the series is to capture the public’s imagination.
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 11:11 PM

I've read similar comment by you regarding A1GP. I agreed with you there and I agree with you here. Hill and Prost would have given the series a large jump in credibility. None of the current roster of 'Masters' are in Mansell's league. Emmo, certainly, if he were a bit younger, but he's a tad too old to really give Mansell a fight. Danner is capable, but erratic.
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