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#121 Jenson_Rules

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:17 AM

Excuse me but i like music which has melodies and is actually sung. Not rapped or talked or whatever. Which is why I lean towards female singers like Beyonce who to me has an inredible voice! Girls Aloud are 4 average to good singers with Nadine who is a very good singer which is why I like them and their own material in terms of POP music, original sounding pop music is second no no one elses in the music biz at the moment. We get all this rap crap from america and a lot of thi indie s##t at the moment that they are a breath of fresh air. Please why dont one of you at least listen to chemistry or what will the nighbours say and then you will hear that their own music is very original and innovative. Let me suggest graffiti my soul and swinging london town. Nothing and i repeat nothing else sounds similar. Then theres the Show which has the most original structure ever for a pop song. It doesnt have a chorus and the verses are not actually verses. Then there also Biology, 3 songs mixed into one. Racy Lacy is an hilarious song about a prostitute. Models is a very catchy original pop song and Wild Horses begins as a choir song and breaks into a very catchy very random song.

This is what annoys me about people who say they are just popular cos they are sexy. If you actually took the time to listen to their music then you would see that they are very orginal and the lyrics in a lot of the songs are very clever if not a little bizzare. So please head over to the british iTunes site and just listen to the 30 sec clips of the songs from the 2 albums i mentioned. Then tell me they are talentless hoe bags who are so generic theres no point even wasting time on them.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:43 AM

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:00 AM

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Something kinda ooh kinda makes my heard go boom

Gotta love those awe inspiring lyrics that a child could have thought up.

And lets be honest, how are manufactured pop bands any better than rappers. Some rappers like Eminem are very quickwhitted and intelligent. What is intelligent about lyrics like "something kinda ooh kinda makes my heard to boom".

I have listened to a lot of their songs, and I am still struggling to see what apart from shaking their rears does make them popular.


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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:45 PM

Actualy that song has hidden meanings in it! But notice I never mentioned that song as one which is clever, that's just a fun dance song.

Autumn in reply to your message, I realise that he isn't quite as c#cky as I imagined but it's going to take him a lot to make me actually support him!
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:01 PM

Oh yeah sorry I forgot to tell you but something Kinda oooh is about a missed oppotunity with a guy met in a nightckub btw!
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:17 PM

It was just a point to illustrate how crap their music is tbh.


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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:29 PM

Yeah well. Theres plenty of people that like their music. Otherwise they wouldnt have sold out an arena tour last year and almost sold out a bigger arena tour this year which doesnt start for 2 months yet!
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:15 PM

It only takes 50k people to fill an arena, and I have seen crappier bands fill bigger arenas than that before :P


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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:22 PM

In a time when the charts are smothered with indie and alt music they are doing damn well for themselves.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:41 PM

The thing is most of that is crap as well lol


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Posted 13 March 2007 - 07:31 PM

Well what do you like then?
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 07:37 PM

Avril Lavigne
Evanescence
Rammstein
The Darkness
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 07:46 PM

View PostShane2, on Mar 13 2007, 03:00 AM, said:

And lets be honest, how are manufactured pop bands any better than rappers. Some rappers like Eminem are very quickwhitted and intelligent. What is intelligent about lyrics like "something kinda ooh kinda makes my heard to boom".
Yeah I agree.  Eminem and many other (less famous) rappers are geniuses.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 08:13 PM

View PostJenson_Rules!!!, on Mar 12 2007, 11:49 PM, said:

I went on iTunes and listened to clips of all the songs. ANd each one sounded the same and that really is nt the sort of music i like. I really dont like any sort of rap/hiphop type stuff!



Look Ben, the idea with an album like 'Entroducing' is that you enjoy the sum of all its parts. You don't listen to clips and make judgements, the album isn't written to make that form of evaluation fair or justified. It's an album that can be enjoyed socially or in isolation. It covers a spectrum of moods from chill out to hard beats; it's an album for all occasions. It is ironic in places, spiritual and very clever. It uses samples that are relevant to my generation (30 somethings) and yet it caters for the teenager who wants to dance to it. I played it in front of my Grandad at a barbeque and he didn't bat an eye lid because it has the sound of social acceptance over generation spans.

If you do not like it, fair play to you. Why should you like it? Taste is a subjective argument. All i'm trying to suggest, as many are here is that instead of enjoying squirty cream and saying it's great because many people eat it, that you try double cream and take a bit of time to enjoy the subtle virtues and differences. This will sound patronising now, but often you will not appreciate the finer things in life until you get a little older and life gains more perspective. I remember the joy my father used to glean from sitting up to his dining room table on a sunday morning, eating his cooked breakfast and looking out into his garden at the birds feeding. 'What a bore' i used to think but now i find myself enjoying similar simple pleasures.

I think it important too for you to appreciate the root cause of so many peoples dislike for band like Girls Aloud. The girls can sing, they have sold plenty of CD's they are great to look at and they have a big following but they represent  a small part of everything wrong with society today. They are throw away; they aren't here to stay because they are not significant, they don't improve or move the game on atall and the public grow more fickle by the day. We want the next big thing and we want it now. It wasn't always like this Ben. Bands were able to have an album that bombed and then come back. It made them what they were, it DEFINED them. These days bands are deliberately conceived to make huge ammounts of money quickly and are then destroyed when the next new band some along. There is something very wrong with that and that is why i despise them and the industry they feed.

Music is an ART. It should be protected and nurtured and not flogged to death for commercial means. People who have a true and deep appreciation of music understand this. Try and look at it this way Ben and you may begin to appreciate better music on a deeper level.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 08:17 PM

View PostMurray Walker, on Mar 13 2007, 07:46 PM, said:

Yeah I agree.  Eminem and many other (less famous) rappers are geniuses.

Do you like Stuff like Cypress Hill too Muzz? If so, if you havent' already, check out a great album by The Gravediggaz called '6 feet deep'. The band are made up of off shoots from the Wu-Tang. It's deeply clever and as an appreciator of all things word clever, i think you would enjoy it.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 08:19 PM

View Postdribbler, on Mar 13 2007, 08:13 PM, said:

That's the last i'll say on the subject.
I'll believe that when I don't see it.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 08:26 PM

View Postdribbler, on Mar 13 2007, 08:17 PM, said:

Do you like Stuff like Cypress Hill too Muzz? If so, if you havent' already, check out a great album by The Gravediggaz called '6 feet deep'. The band are made up of off shoots from the Wu-Tang. It's deeply clever and as an appreciator of all things word clever, i think you would enjoy it.
I've heard of Cypress Hill and the Wu-Tang but haven't actually got round to checking them out much yet.  Thanks for the advice - I'll definitely have a listen and get back to you!

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I'll believe that when I don't see it.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 08:30 PM

View PostShane2, on Mar 13 2007, 07:37 PM, said:

Avril Lavigne No
Evanescence I have both albums and like them
Rammstein Liked them a few years ago but no longer to my liking
The Darkness Very random. First album good, second was atrocious
Eminem I like his more fun stuff, not so keen on the serious stff though I like Lose Yourself
Nirvana Who doesn't like Nirvana?!

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 08:37 PM

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Look Ben, the idea with an album like 'Entroducing' is that you enjoy the sum of all its parts. You don't listen to clips and make judgements, the album isn't written to make that form of evaluation fair or justified. It's an album that can be enjoyed socially or in isolation. It covers a spectrum of moods from chill out to hard beats; it's an album for all occasions. It is ironic in places, spiritual and very clever. It uses samples that are relevant to my generation (30 somethings) and yet it caters for the teenager who wants to dance to it. I played it in front of my Grandad at a barbeque and he didn't bat an eye lid because it has the sound of social acceptance over generation spans.

If you do not like it, fair play to you. Why should you like it? Taste is a subjective argument. All i'm trying to suggest, as many are here is that instead of enjoying squirty cream and saying it's great because many people eat it, that you try double cream and take a bit of time to enjoy the subtle virtues and differences. This will sound patronising now, but often you will not appreciate the finer things in life until you get a little older and life gains more perspective. I remember the joy my father used to glean from sitting up to his dining room table on a sunday morning, eating his cooked breakfast and looking out into his garden at the birds feeding. 'What a bore' i used to think but now i find myself enjoying similar simple pleasures.

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Music is an ART. It should be protected and nurtured and not flogged to death for commercial means. People who have a true and deep appreciation of music understand this. Try and look at it this way Ben and you may begin to appreciate better music on a deeper level.
That's the last i'll say on the subject.

I understand what your saying. But for a start Dairy products make me ill so the cream idea doesn't really work with me haha!

In general though I'm not a fan of hip/hop or rap because I find it boring. Often the lyrics are genius but I just don't like it really. But anyway I know I'm only young but I wil nearly always like club music and pop music as its the sort I like to listen too. I'm open to try anything but rap I just don't really like. Sorry but it just has no appeal to me.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 02:12 AM

Knowing you lot you prob hate this however have any of you heard Beautiful Liar by Shakira and Beyonce. It's flippin fantastic and the video is pretty hot too!
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 02:30 AM



theres the vid. Love it! Easy to dirty dance to this when drunk in a club!
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 05:22 AM

View PostJenson_Rules!!!, on Mar 13 2007, 06:12 PM, said:

Knowing you lot you prob hate this however have any of you heard Beautiful Liar by Shakira and Beyonce. It's flippin fantastic and the video is pretty hot too!

Ha! My turn to surprise you....I quite like Shakira.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 07:49 AM

View PostJenson_Rules!!!, on Mar 14 2007, 02:12 AM, said:

Knowing you lot you prob hate this however have any of you heard Beautiful Liar by Shakira and Beyonce. It's flippin fantastic and the video is pretty hot too!

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 09:08 AM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Mar 14 2007, 05:22 AM, said:

Ha! My turn to surprise you....I quite like Shakira.

Good god! I personally prefer her Spanish language albums.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 03:16 PM

For the record I agree with you about 1 thing, the darkness second album did blow :P


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Posted 15 March 2007 - 10:11 PM

Ok, if people who like early fleetwood mac, bluesy, guitarist based music would like to have a listen to the attached and let me know what you think - other people can listen to it, but you probably won't like it!  :lol:

You'll have to excuse the poor recording, not helped by compression either and the singing did actually sound better than this live, it doesn't seem to pick up well on the recording.  And no it's not me, though I do wish it was me playing the guitar!


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Posted 05 May 2007 - 11:07 PM

Not trying to dig up an old thread, but being a guitarist myself, I figured we needed a music thread, and since this came up in the search, I brought it back up.

I listen to a lot.  Right now I really like The Raconteurs.  For those who don't know, here's some vids:
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If your familiar with The White Stripes, the guitarist and singer who looks like Jack White is Jack White.

I also like Incubus, Yellowcard, Nirvana, U2, blink-182, Angels & Airwaves, Arctic Monkeys, The White Stripes, Led Zep, Linkin Park, a lot of classic rock and indie/alt stuff.  I also will listen to rap and stuff like that.

As for my own music career...hmm...I've performed "Hips Don't Lie" (Shakira), both song and dance before...I also did Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" with a friend before and broke out into some spastic stripper dancing...and I've screamed "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" by The Darkness in an intensely high-pitched voice...all at parties...but you didn't really need to know any of that...

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View Postpabloh20, on Mar 15 2007, 07:11 PM, said:

Ok, if people who like early fleetwood mac, bluesy, guitarist based music would like to have a listen to the attached and let me know what you think - other people can listen to it, but you probably won't like it!  :lol:

You'll have to excuse the poor recording, not helped by compression either and the singing did actually sound better than this live, it doesn't seem to pick up well on the recording.  And no it's not me, though I do wish it was me playing the guitar!

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 02:49 PM

Ok,me too:
In English: Linkin Park,Green Day,My Chemical Romance,Red Hot Chili Peppers,Sum41,System Of A Down,Blink 182,Billy Talent,Dover,Incubus,Rise Against,Nickelback,Yellowcard,Snow Patrol,Avril Lavigne,Oasis,Guns&Roses,Led Zeppelin,U2,Rem,Maroon5...
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Posted 06 May 2007 - 11:25 PM

We had East 17 (yes how bad is that!) at our Uni last night performing, all I can say is they did a set of 9 songs aparently, me and my mates stayed for one and then went back downstairs to the other club and got more drinks and danced to 80's and 90's classics. Was a good night!
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