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[maure]

lewisthegreat2, on 07 September 2009 - 09:00 PM, said:

I've decided Jorge Lorenzo is my favorite rider.  Now tell me everything bad you know about him so I know if it's safe to be a fan of his or not.

You will hear questionable references to Lorenzo's past.

It goes like this. He was very, very young and a lot of fun in 125cc. His motto was "ready for war" and he delivered many fun fights. He was an arrogant b#####d, though, because of his age and childhood background. We laughed it off at the time. When he moved up to 250cc, he was beaten by the likes of Pedrosa and others. His arrogance was no longer fun at all. Many took a profound dislike to him that lasts to this day. Eventually, though, he matured and did so in such a manner that it still has many in somewhat of an awe. Anyway, he managed to win two successful world championships in 250cc before moving up to MotoGP. These were important, obviously, but were achieved without the utter domination of, for example again, Pedrosa. In fact, it was only until Pedrosa moved on to MotoGP, that Lorenzo had the 250cc class all for himself. Summing up, his arrival as partner of Rossi was lukewarm. He didn't seem to have the stuff. Boy, were we wrong. He has stepped up his game so much that it's difficult to recognize him. With Stoner out of the game (and with Rossi's bike), it's difficult to rank him properly. However, the maturity of his personality (today) and his performances the last two years prove that he is undoubtedly one of the strongest riders in the field.

It may be too much to claim he is heir to Rossi's throne... but he is doing much that others simply can't. I too am (have become) a Lorenzo fan.

Edited by maure, 08 September 2009 - 02:52 AM.

[freaky2]

I agree with what's been said. Though I'm not becoming a Lorenzo fan until Rossi retires and who knows if there won't be someone else who catches my eye by then. I didn't like Lorenzo's arrogant past at all. But I definitely prefer him, Pedrosa is dreadfully dull and Stoner, well, maybe he'll be higher on the ranking when he's fit again.
I really want to see what Spies can do in MotoGP, I think it was him who ran a race and did very well last year. Though I might be mistaken.

By the way, last Sunday I saw the funniest 7-8 laps of a race in ages Crazy stuff^^

[maure]

Fun, fun, fun, 125cc race and congrats to the new WC Simon (Simmon?).

On to the 250cc's. Cheering on Aoyama and Bautista but let's see how things play out. Warmup lap on its way as I type...

[elgo]

1.Congrats to Stoner!!Oh and btw he's already 3rd in the standings
2.Simón is uglier than a Koala:

3.Really really ugly:

4. Simoncelli 2 points behind Bautista.I think that Aoyama will be champion,with Simoncelli 2nd and Bautista 3rd.

[maure]

Yep. It went down from 125cc to MotoGP.

Aoyama did not impress. Bautista has yet to learn how to start well. Good on Simoncelli.

Lorenzo made the nth rookie mistake. It killed the mojo of what's left of the championship. Not cool, Lorenzo, not cool. Still, good on Stoner, brilliant return.

[lewisthegreat2]

elgo, on 18 October 2009 - 02:46 PM, said:

Give him a break.  It was his first day on George's diet.  Of course he was going to be having some issues.

Too bad ol' Whorehay Whorenzo doesn't have an excuse.  He'll be world champ one day cuz I want him to be.

[elgo]

George's diet?Grease?

[freaky2]

elgo, on 20 October 2009 - 07:53 PM, said:

George's diet?Grease?

You would be amazed at how right you are

[Rainmaster]

That's right, you all laugh it up! Nasty bunch!

Anyway, I see Stoner's back.

[lewisthegreat2]

El Maestro, on 21 October 2009 - 01:50 PM, said:

Anyway, I see Stoner's back.

Yeah, his competitors saw a lot of his back in the past race, too...hehehehehehehehehehehehheomgsofunny.

[Rainmaster]

lewisthegreat2, on 21 October 2009 - 08:41 PM, said:

Yeah, his competitors saw a lot of his back in the past race, too...hehehehehehehehehehehehheomgsofunny.

elloell!!!

[maure]

Nice 125cc race.

Bettered, though, by the 250cc race. Aoyama did one of his best races despite Simoncelli... because it must be said, Simoncelli is a strong rider (best of the lot the 2nd half of the season) but he is also the dirtiest coward on and off track. He will change his ways or end up disappearing like so many of his ilk have in the past...

The MotoGP race showed that Stoner might have won this season were not for the 3-race drop out and mistery illness. Lorenzo might still lose the 2nd place... no matter how hard would that be.

Anyway, good on old Rossi for hitting it the 9th time over... what's up with you all? Are not congratulations in order?

Edited by maure, 26 October 2009 - 02:58 AM.

[freaky2]

We're trying to get sober enough to be able to write them *hic*
Ok, that's not true, I was waiting for somebody else to start XD
Only thing that can be said about Stoner is that next year is going to be even better than this year, as reputedly he's in his best form ever. Now, why the hell is next season so far in the future? ouch XD

I didn't see the 125cc race, a bit too early xD 250 was great though, and that considering that I only half-watched it.

I would start dancing and singing a made up song called "Rossi won" but I'm a bit too sober for it now.. ouch >.<

[Rainmaster]

Yes, congrats to Rossi. Still the master, hard to believe really.

[elgo]

GALLINA VECCHIA FA BUON BRODO!!!!!

[maure]

The season is over and the last races were not bad at all. Pity Stoner's rookie error and congrats to Aoyama. Screw Simoncelli.

The comic relief was to see Ecclestone walking around the paddock, utterly shocked by the discovery that it is possible to have a successful (and real) competition without fixing race after race. What a huge, huge difference from F1. Anyway, lucky us that we can count on MotoGP to deliver... despite its many own problems, btw. We'll see how the Moto2 thingy turns out.

Rossi, Aoyama, Simon, all fought tooth and nail against strong competition (other riders, I mean, not the organization as is the case in F1) and are very much deserving champions.

A pleasure to watch.

[maure]

It is a fact that there are few bike guys around here. It's an F1 site and all.

But, come on!

Has F1 so profoundly-fcking-tastically shoved apathy into your soul that you are unable to raise a few fingers to key in some words celebrating a rather quite decent season of MotoGP?

[freaky2]

Mmmmm, I liked the 250 race, very fun xD

I don't like Simon, so I won't comment, and also I didn't see that many 125cc races as to be entitled to a comment xD But I saw the one when he shortened the race by a lap

250, I'm happy for Aoyama, he's a deserving champion, and he indeed had worthy competition (excluding when Bautista decided to imitate the strange Spanish habit of falling race after race >.< ).

MotoGP, it was a very exciting season considering that MotoGP is no 125cc where they fall left, right and centre xD The Rossi-Lorenzo battles were great, Stoner is feeling great now (2010, come already!!), and even though the competition was between 4 guys it was very fun overall. Now, if 2010 will come already to see how crazy Simoncelli and recent champion Aoyama fare with the big boys...

By the way, I know almost nothing about Moto 2, can someone tell me the basic differences with 250cc? Sorry that I'm lazy to look, but maybe that way we can have some conversation.

[elgo]

I'll try to write something coherent as I've been studying for nearly 12 hrs today      and my brain hurts

-125: meh Simon will fail in Moto2 I suspect.I don't like him.Always saw him as an unspecial rider.
          A good year for my golden boys Pol Espargaró and Marc Marquez.Oh and Bradley Smith...next year he'll have Nico Terol as a teammate...strong and young lineup!

-250:bah.1st Aoyama and 2nd Barberá???Shame on Simoncelli and Bautista,who are faster by miles but failed over and over again....

-MGP:ROSSI,SEI IL MIGLIORE!!(??)must start learning italian,seriously . Stoner, bravo! Can't wait to see next season with Stoner,Lorenzo and Rossi 100%. Pedrosa???He deserves the comment I always do about him: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry for this biased and stupid post

[maure]

freaky2, on 10 November 2009 - 06:38 PM, said:

By the way, I know almost nothing about Moto 2, can someone tell me the basic differences with 250cc? Sorry that I'm lazy to look, but maybe that way we can have some conversation.

Basically, Moto2 is 4-stroke class instead of the 250cc 2-stroke class. All engines supplied by Honda. Tyres are restricted to a single supplier but cannot remember who (Dunlop?). Brake changes too (from carbon-fibre to steel)... and, of course, the Moto2 bikes will be 600cc which is quite a jump. Makes you think what should be done to MotoGP that has been going down in cc's year after year.

I came across an article on the new regulations at some point... hold on a minute... here!

http://www.fasterand...roke-class.html

Hope it helps.

elgo, on 10 November 2009 - 08:40 PM, said:

-125: meh Simon will fail in Moto2 I suspect.I don't like him.Always saw him as an unspecial rider.
          A good year for my golden boys Pol Espargaró and Marc Marquez.Oh and Bradley Smith...next year he'll have Nico Terol as a teammate...strong and young lineup!

Funny, freaky doesn't like Simon either. Interesting.

Well, Simon rode a great season. He is perhaps the strongest winner in all categories. Sure, he moved up to 250cc to then come back to 125cc but, hell, he is champion now... and, you bet, there is a lot of raw skill in that class. Smith was superb and, like you said, Marquez and Spargaro (his brother in MotoGP too) did very, very well well.

Anyways.

Perhaps the best news for next season is how strong Stoner is. Unbelievable, really. Yep, yep. I'm also looking forward to the coming clash of the titans in MotoGP...

[freaky2]

Thanks Maure, I'll read the link when I come back from uni So it is quite a big change, but reminds me strangely of GP2... what's with all the standardization? Well, at least we'll compare to the other cathegories and see if it's better or worse than before. Regarding MotoGP - go to 1000cc again and reduce electronics a bit... (quoting word by word something Rossi said xDDD)

[maure]

Standardization, monopoly, it all spells disaster ultimately. Which part of the word COMPETITION some people do not understand...

I'm with Rossi too on MotoGP.

[freaky2]

Read on Autosport that Aprilia won't be racing in Moto 2 (well, I catch up with news very late, sorry xD), I say well done. Why should they race with Honda engines? I think them not wanting to be involved might make people think that part over, or hopefully they will because I don't like it.

[elgo]

Soooo...back to 1000cc!

changes for 2012

[maure]

We've got the MotoGP season coming up. Looking forward do it, naturally. I paid the 70 something euros (motherfckers keep busting up the price every year). No problem, of course. I'm rich.

Anyway, the SBK site has changed and can't find the fcking SBK TV. Anyone out there that could give me a heads up? Much appreciated.

Eat a naughty shroom today. Be my guest.

[Rainmaster]

This is kinda fun! Especially the whole crew chief reference

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So, the season is almost upon us. It looks like Lorenzo might be sidelined with injury during some of the early races. Therefore at Qatar, Rossi's main rival looks to be the now back on form Stoner, who always seems to excel at that track. Hopefully the changes made to the Ducati to improve the smoothness of the engine will allow Hayden to exploit the bike like we know he is capable of. If not, I suspect his tenure at Ducati will be over at year-end. Speaking of people who need to achieve results this year, it's about time Pedrosa did something meaningful on his Honda - otherwise he might get the boot even if he is the 'Golden Boy'. I'll be looking out for Spies too; I've heard he knows how to ride.

In short, I can't wait for the season to begin. If F1 does prove to be a bore-fest, MotoGP provides the perfect antidote.

[maure]

Ok. No SBK fans here... you guys don't know what you are missing.

Thanks, Professor (do we know each other from a past handle of yours?), for the brief preseason sumary. I've missed the entire thing this year and don't know who is who and on what they are riding. Gotta catch up before the weekend starts.

[Rainmaster]

No problem. I keep changing my name because I get bored of looking at it. Rainmaster, El Maestro and Nivola were my previous incarnations.

[maure]

I remember you. You are one of the good ones... a friend of Oh Quiet One, right?

Btw, I don't know about you since your "Location" is "At my desk", but the races here in Japan are in the middle of the freaking night. I want to watch them live but, fck, at my age...

Screw it. It's gotta be live. So, there.

[freaky2]

Hah, you can do it Maure! At least for the first race, after the long wait XD