Title Gone For Alonso, Fiarrari To Win

[cristiano84 0]

Poor Fernando Alonso, all his efforts to win this year's championship have been useless, since FIArrari has decided to do everything they could have done to help the Red Cheating b#####d win his eighth title before he goes.

In China he could have won and have the title race re-opened but, as his left-front tyre went down, the german cheating master got past and won leaving Fernando chances to win the title as zero for many reasons:

1) In Japan, Bridgestone will have EASILY the upper hand, given that it's their test circuit for F.Nippon, Japan GT and road cars

2)Renault's engine is probably unlikely to make it to the end at the next race, given their poor reliability showing from recent testing

In the end the DARK SIDE of the sport has won. How sad it is to see a driver who needs to park his car in the middle of a track to retain a pole position and a team that has received a lot of unjustified help to win the title. I know many FIArrrari fans will now disagree but this is one of the darkest pages in years for the sport, like it or not

Thumbs down for Formula 1

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Maybe for the group of people who hate ferrari like you, but for most fans around the world this has been a great season and a great title fight

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Poor Fernando Alonso, all his efforts to win this year's championship have been useless, since FIArrari has decided to do everything they could have done to help the Red Cheating b#####d win his eighth title before he goes.

In China he could have won and have the title race re-opened but, as his left-front tyre went down, the german cheating master got past and won leaving Fernando chances to win the title as zero for many reasons:

1) In Japan, Bridgestone will have EASILY the upper hand, given that it's their test circuit for F.Nippon, Japan GT and road cars

2)Renault's engine is probably unlikely to make it to the end at the next race, given their poor reliability showing from recent testing

In the end the DARK SIDE of the sport has won. How sad it is to see a driver who needs to park his car in the middle of a track to retain a pole position and a team that has received a lot of unjustified help to win the title. I know many FIArrrari fans will now disagree but this is one of the darkest pages in years for the sport, like it or not

Thumbs down for Formula 1

Whats this babbling all about sour loser...

Renault decided last week not to use their new engine spec that blew up, but there should be a concern for Alonso's engine for Suzuka though because the fool decided to high-rev his engine for the last 15 laps and not to settle for second and preserve...

on the bolded part i've stated in another thread, he drove his car so hard he efectively ****ed up his race, as his new front tyres went haywire with the balance, he himself is to blame...

You make me laugh with your dark page statement, this year's title fight have all been fair and square

[UrKo 0]

Whats this babbling all about sour loser...

Renault decided last week not to use their new engine spec that blew up, but there should be a concern for Alonso's engine for Suzuka though because the fool decided to high-rev his engine for the last 15 laps and not to settle for second and preserve...

on the bolded part i've stated in another thread, he drove his car so hard he efectively ****ed up his race, as his new front tyres went haywire with the balance, he himself is to blame...

You make me laugh with your dark page statement, this year's title fight have all been fair and square

This makes me laugh even more.....If u think the title fight is fair then Monza is the name of the game.....

[BradSpeedMan 6]

This makes me laugh even more.....If u think the title fight is fair then Monza is the name of the game.....

...Monsa, Monaco, they BOTH got penalties....

Edit: ok, i retract fair from them BOTH, but it's definately square....

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Monza was only 1 incident. Ferrari didnt cheat. FIA made the decision, not schumacher, not ferrari. Schuey tried something silly in monaco quali and got punished for it. Don't blame ferrari for FIA's silly monza decision. Ferrari are beating renault on the track and there's no excuses for that

[UrKo 0]

Monza was only 1 incident. Ferrari didnt cheat. FIA made the decision, not schumacher, not ferrari. Schuey tried something silly in monaco quali and got punished for it. Don't blame ferrari for FIA's silly monza decision. Ferrari are beating renault on the track and there's no excuses for that

Exactly...so why do they need additional help from FIA?!

They have fastest car on the grid, competitive tyres, etc....title should be decided on the track and not behind the desk of FIA.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Exactly...so why do they need additional help from FIA?!

They have fastest car on the grid, competitive tyres, etc....title should be decided on the track and not behind the desk of FIA.

What the hell are you going on about??? There were proof that FA actually held up Massa at Monza, or are you saying the FIA sneaked in through the night to Alonso's car in parc ferme and cause the engine to blow in the race...

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Exactly...so why do they need additional help from FIA?!

They have fastest car on the grid, competitive tyres, etc....title should be decided on the track and not behind the desk of FIA.

Its not being decided by FIA. FIA gave Alonso a grid penalty at monza which looked a little unfair to us fans, and thats it!

[UrKo 0]

What the hell are you going on about??? There were proof that FA actually held up Massa at Monza

This has been discussed.....Alonso was trying ot get his final lap before the Q ends. FIA/stewards didnt even consider to stop the Q when he had a puncture ( FA had to do almost a whole lap to get into the pits and the time was running). But they did stop the Q when 1 of the SA had a puncture...

So please stop with this kind of BS...And massa was not that close to FA to say he had been held up by FA.

Btw...Massa crossed Start/finish line with 1or 2 sec to go so he could easily do 1 more lap.....

are you saying the FIA sneaked in through the night to Alonso's car in parc ferme and cause the engine to blow in the race...

YOu are not thinking clearly.....

Its not being decided by FIA. FIA gave Alonso a grid penalty at monza which looked a little unfair to us fans, and thats it!

Unfair to us fans, teams ( except FIArrari), press, hell even the italian press....

[Sato 0]

What the hell are you going on about??? There were proof that FA actually held up Massa at Monza, or are you saying the FIA sneaked in through the night to Alonso's car in parc ferme and cause the engine to blow in the race...

Did you watch China quali? 95% of drivers SHOULD have been penalised going on that Monza decision.

[cavallino 2]

They changed the rules after Monza, now do you want them changed or not? You complain about Monza then you complain again when the rules are changed to give you what you want

[pabloh20 1]

This has been discussed.....Alonso was trying ot get his final lap before the Q ends. FIA/stewards didnt even consider to stop the Q when he had a puncture ( FA had to do almost a whole lap to get into the pits and the time was running). But they did stop the Q when 1 of the SA had a puncture...

What exactly does that have to do with Ferrari ? If you want to blame anyone, then blame the FIA for having such ambiguous rules. As I have said before if, according to Mosley, the rule is that a driver on their outlap cannot impede a driver on their qualifying lap and they have evidence to suggest he did, then that's it end of story. We all know it was a wrong decision, but it's because of the rules, nothing else - the evidence of this is in the wording of the changed rule.

So please stop with this kind of BS...And massa was not that close to FA to say he had been held up by FA.

Btw...Massa crossed Start/finish line with 1or 2 sec to go so he could easily do 1 more lap.....

YOu are not thinking clearly.....

If that is the case, why didn't Alsonso let him by, follow in his slipstream, within 1.5 to 2 seconds so as not to be in the turbulent air too much & then just do his qualifying lap?

[UrKo 0]

What exactly does that have to do with Ferrari ? If you want to blame anyone, then blame the FIA for having such ambiguous rules. As I have said before if, according to Mosley, the rule is that a driver on their outlap cannot impede a driver on their qualifying lap and they have evidence to suggest he did, then that's it end of story. We all know it was a wrong decision, but it's because of the rules, nothing else - the evidence of this is in the wording of the changed rule.

No no....first it's the ferrari and then is the Fia...Ferrari for complainig all the f...time and FIA for making ferrari complains come true....

Thats why the name FIARRARI!

If that is the case, why didn't Alsonso let him by, follow in his slipstream, within 1.5 to 2 seconds so as not to be in the turbulent air too much & then just do his qualifying lap?

Dude...r u from planet Earth????

[AutoRacer5 0]

This has been discussed.....Alonso was trying ot get his final lap before the Q ends. FIA/stewards didnt even consider to stop the Q when he had a puncture ( FA had to do almost a whole lap to get into the pits and the time was running). But they did stop the Q when 1 of the SA had a puncture...

Yeah, because a carcass of a tire was like, oh I don't know, in the middle of the track.

Nobody Bitched when McLaren and Williams dominated F1...

PS: If everyone keeps saying that Ferrari and the FIA are in bed, then why didn't Schumi escape punishment in Monaco? Oh yeah, that's right, because they AREN'T.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

What exactly does that have to do with Ferrari ? If you want to blame anyone, then blame the FIA for having such ambiguous rules. As I have said before if, according to Mosley, the rule is that a driver on their outlap cannot impede a driver on their qualifying lap and they have evidence to suggest he did, then that's it end of story. We all know it was a wrong decision, but it's because of the rules, nothing else - the evidence of this is in the wording of the changed rule.

If that is the case, why didn't Alsonso let him by, follow in his slipstream, within 1.5 to 2 seconds so as not to be in the turbulent air too much & then just do his qualifying lap?

There's evidence that suggest FA DELIBERATELY slowed down at the entry of a corner ahead of Schumacher under yellow flag conditions at the third practice session at Hungary when they were both penalised. FA seems to be mastering illegal blocking manouvre's to perfection lately....

[AutoRacer5 0]

True, Kubica was also caught off guard by it.

[pabloh20 1]

No no....first it's the ferrari and then is the Fia...Ferrari for complainig all the f...time and FIA for making ferrari complains come true....

Thats why the name FIARRARI!

Dude...r u from planet Earth????

You come out with completely nonsensical statements and then have the gall to ask if I'm from planet earth - quite laughable.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Now you have explained how you came up with 'Fiarrari', it makes it hilarious - please send me a bandage as my sides have split with laughter.

Explain yourself - you said that Massa crossed the line with 2s to spare so he could just do another lap. Anyone who watches F1 knows that, under normal circumstances, the 2nd flying lap is not as quick as the first. So to just say 'do another lap' was a stupid notion, so I put an equally stupid notion to you that if Massa had 2s to spare, then why didn't Alonso just follow him & then do his flying lap. I know it wasn't possible, but you seem to have a very simplistic approach to F1, so I'd like you to answer the question.

[UrKo 0]

Yeah, because a carcass of a tire was like, oh I don't know, in the middle of the track.

Nobody Bitched when McLaren and Williams dominated F1...

If we had a forum ( internet ) back in the early 90 lot of ppl would complain.....trust me.

PS: If everyone keeps saying that Ferrari and the FIA are in bed, then why didn't Schumi escape punishment in Monaco? Oh yeah, that's right, because they AREN'T.

With so obvious mistake even FIA had to yield to the pressure of other teams.....

PS:

Y FIA needed so many hours to give the penalty to Schuey??? As i recall the penalty was given at midnight...

10 f....hours after one of the biggest attempt of cheating in 06 season.

You come out with completely nonsensical statements and then have the gall to ask if I'm from planet earth - quite laughable.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Now you have explained how you came up with 'Fiarrari', it makes it hilarious - please send me a bandage as my sides have split with laughter.

I guess u r from other planet as your sides r more sensitive as ours ( humans).

Explain your yourself - you said that Massa crossed the line with 2s to spare so he could just do another lap. Anyone who watches F1 knows that, under normal circumstances, the 2nd flying lap is not as quick as the first. So to just say 'do another lap' was a stupid notion, so I put an equally stupid notion to you that if Massa had 2s to spare, then why didn't Alonso just follow him & then do his flying lap. I know it wasn't possible, but you seem to have a very simplistic approach to F1, so I'd like you to answer the question.

I doubt that FA would manage to get before end of time if he had let Massa through....he knew that, every1 else knew that. Ferrari is complaining every time they have a chance ( Jean Todt to be more accurate).

As for 2nd flying lap......lot of drivers have put fastest laps in 2nd flying lap....so if Massa backed out it's his f....fault.

FIA yet again shown that they have double standards....

[monza gorilla 1]

Nobody Bitched when McLaren and Williams dominated F1...

yes they did. I'll forgive you though, because I know you're too young to remember first hand.

[cavallino 2]

PS:

Y FIA needed so many hours to give the penalty to Schuey??? As i recall the penalty was given at midnight...

How on earth does that matter?

As for 2nd flying lap......lot of drivers have put fastest laps in 2nd flying lap....so if Massa backed out it's his f....fault.

So it's Massa's fault that Alonso had a tyre failure and had to rush to start his lap?

[pabloh20 1]

I guess u r from other planet as your sides r more sensitive as ours ( humans).

That's meant to be taken as a serious retort? Maybe I am from another planet, certainly different to you, that's for sure.

I doubt that FA would manage to get before end of time if he had let Massa through....he knew that, every1 else knew that. Ferrari is complaining every time they have a chance ( Jean Todt to be more accurate).

As for 2nd flying lap......lot of drivers have put fastest laps in 2nd flying lap....so if Massa backed out it's his f....fault.

FIA yet again shown that they have double standards....

If you would like to show evidence of the 2nd flying lap being quicker this year, under normal circumstances - ie. not due to being blocked, drying track, etc, then I would be quite interested to see that and then you will obviously have to come up with the evidence that 'lots' of drivers have done it.

yes they did. I'll forgive you though, because I know you're too young to remember first hand.

Well they did bitch, but I don't think it was anything like the anti Ferrari/Schumacher bitching that we have now. Let's face it, they changed the number of points awarded to 2nd - 8th place to try & stop Ferrari/Schumacher dominating!!

[UrKo 0]

How on earth does that matter?

it does....u see other drivers get penalties in matter of minutes or maybe an hour...but Fiarrari.....o well thats another story....

So it's Massa's fault that Alonso had a tyre failure and had to rush to start his lap?

No, never said that...FIA should stop the Q same way they did with SA when 1 of their driver had a puncture.

If you would like to show evidence of the 2nd flying lap being quicker this year, under normal circumstances - ie. not due to being blocked, drying track, etc, then I would be quite interested to see that and then you will obviously have to come up with the evidence that 'lots' of drivers have done it.

You can easily go to F1 site and see from day 1 of 06 season who was on pole...Remember drivers went to change tyres 3-4 mintues to go in last part of Q and the fastest lap was not always the first 1!!!!

[Jem of the Shire 0]

it does....u see other drivers get penalties in matter of minutes or maybe an hour...but Fiarrari.....o well thats another story....

Thats because the monaco incident was a lot different to most normal incidents. Thats a really crap piece of evidence if ur trying to argue that FIA favours ferrari. If they do favour Ferrari they wouldnt have put schu right to the back of the grid

[pabloh20 1]

You can easily go to F1 site and see from day 1 of 06 season who was on pole...Remember drivers went to change tyres 3-4 mintues to go in last part of Q and the fastest lap was not always the first 1!!!!

Oops me bad - forgot it was the final session of qualifying, not the earlier sessions when they're running on low fuel!!