July 4th

[dribbler 6]

Nah. For the most part we (Australians) like to stay out of conficts which dont concern us (especially internal conflicts) and as for BBQ im not really a fan as it usually means i have to spend time with my family.

Throw them on the BBQ. Job done.

[mikathegreat2 2]

After watching V8 Supercars, I've become a Holden fan.

There's like 3 different versions of that muscle car: Vauxhall Monaro, Holden Monaro & Pontiac GTO. They all the same but Pontiac were famous in the 70's for producing great muscle cars so there might be a difference to their version!

[Eric 0]

Random thoughts inspired by this thread:

A) I enjoy being single (inspired by my own beauitious post)

I didn't see Transformers. I probably will. Maybe.

C) The Camaro's disgusting and serves no purpose. If I designed that car, I wouldn't have, but if I had to, I would've made it better. I have it pictured, but I can't draw it, or describe it, so I'll just leave it at I would've made it better.

D) I want a Holden Commodore. Now.

E) The Pontiac G8's good for an American sedan. But I still want a Holden Commodore.

F) Do Holden's have good quality? Because our American sedans suck.

G) Toyota Aurion needs to replace the Camry. The Camry looks like a rolling capybara and it's ugly.

H) Ford Falcon. That black one. With the gold stripes. Yummy.

I) All this talk of cars reminds me a want an AMG Black (the F1 safety car)

J) Talk of the AMG Black reminds me I can't afford one.

K) Is it July 6th already?

L) That's all.

-Eric

[Autumnpuma 0]

A Holden fan. What are you insane

I was a Ford fan the day i was born and i'll be a Ford fan the day i die. I dont care how slow they are

To be honest, I have no brand loyalty. I like the Mustang, but no other Fords. I like the new Camaro and quite alot of older Chevys, but most new Chevys suck.

[monza gorilla 1]

Don't know about the States, but over here Chevy is a rebadged Daewoo. Not what we had in mind when they announced that the world famous Chevrolet were going to sell motors in the UK.

[Autumnpuma 0]

Don't know about the States, but over here Chevy is a rebadged Daewoo. Not what we had in mind when they announced that the world famous Chevrolet were going to sell motors in the UK.

Do you Brits get the Corvette over there? I hope so...the new 'vette is truly one of the best sports cars around, for the money. As for the other cars in Chevy's lineup, they are gutless wonders. The lump is solid, but the tranny sucks.

[monza gorilla 1]

We get the Corvette, and the Mustang, but for some reason the steering wheel is on the wrong side....... That's why we buy Holden Monaro's

[Autumnpuma 0]

We get the Corvette, and the Mustang, but for some reason the steering wheel is on the wrong side....... That's why we buy Holden Monaro's

The steering wheels are fine. Whomever laid out your roads was obviously dyslexic.

[monza gorilla 1]

But Chrysler cater for us with the Crossfire (what a lemon) and 300C, so GM and Ford must be missing a trick. They'd sell a lot more that way. For an Englishman driving on the left is a right (if you follow my drift) - it allows one to draw one's sword and engage the footpads without decapitating one's own passengers.

[mikathegreat2 2]

But Chrysler cater for us with the Crossfire (what a lemon) and 300C

I really like the sound of their ME-four twelve concept! Do Chrysler have the power to make a 850bhp V12 or will they beg Dodge to do it for them???

[Eric 0]

Chrysler sucks.

That's all.

-Eric

[ykickamoocow 0]

[quote name='Eric' post='203165' date='Jul 7 2007, 02:12 AM']C) The Camaro's disgusting and serves no purpose. If I designed that car, I wouldn't have, but if I had to, I would've made it better. I have it pictured, but I can't draw it, or describe it, so I'll just leave it at I would've made it better.[/quote]

It is ugly but it was designed for the American market so i guess thats what they like. I went onto a GM forum afew days ago and most of the forum members loved it.


[quote name='Eric' post='203165' date='Jul 7 2007, 02:12 AM']D) I want a Holden Commodore. Now.[/quote]

They are nice cars. Some of the Holden HSV (Holden Special Vehicles) have even been reviewed up against the BMW M5 and have actually done very well. Especially when you consider the Holden is less than half the price.


[quote name='Eric' post='203165' date='Jul 7 2007, 02:12 AM']E) The Pontiac G8's good for an American sedan. But I still want a Holden Commodore[/quote]

The Pontiac G8 is a Holden Commodore SSV. It is built in the same factory in Adelaide. The only things different aboout it is obviously the steering wheel and the front which has been modified by Pontiac for the American market as they said the Standard SSV front was too boring for most Americans.


[quote name='Eric' post='203165' date='Jul 7 2007, 02:12 AM']F) Do Holden's have good quality? Because our American sedans suck.[/quote]

Holden's quality isnt bad. Obviously it isnt as good as the Japanese but it is as good as most cars made elsewhere. Remember these cars were built for Australian conditions which means they are designed for rather tough conditions.


[quote name='Eric' post='203165' date='Jul 7 2007, 02:12 AM']G) Toyota Aurion needs to replace the Camry. The Camry looks like a rolling capybara and it's ugly.[/quote]

The Aurion is a new car for Toyota and im surprised your aware of it. It is being sold in Australia as a direct competitor to the Falcon and Commodore and Toyota have even created a performance devision to make a hot Aurions to compete with the HSV's and FPV's. Its a big market in Australia and Toyota want a peice of it.


[quote name='Eric' post='203165' date='Jul 7 2007, 02:12 AM']H) Ford Falcon. That black one. With the gold stripes. Yummy.[/quote]

Yes that is a nice looking car.


[quote name='Autumnpuma' post='203213' date='Jul 7 2007, 05:45 AM']Do you Brits get the Corvette over there? I hope so...the new 'vette is truly one of the best sports cars around, for the money. As for the other cars in Chevy's lineup, they are gutless wonders. The lump is solid, but the tranny sucks.[/quote]

I know England has the Corvette as i saw it on Top Gear. It may interest you to know that Holden is getting the 7.0 Letre Corvette engine later this year and they are going to put it in a high performance Commodore. I cant wait 550 BHP in a Holden, its going to be great.

[Max Mosley 2]

For an Englishman driving on the left is a right (if you follow my drift) - it allows one to draw one's sword and engage the footpads without decapitating one's own passengers.

[Autumnpuma 0]

But Chrysler cater for us with the Crossfire (what a lemon)

When the Crossfire came out, a damned fine tin-top road-racer, Tommy Kendall, (and a guy from ALMS that I now forget) took two of those cars around the Willow Springs track in California and they pronounced it a very fine track car. The verdict was that very little modifications would be needed to take a factory Crossfire to the track and be competitive. The spyder was less so (of course..rigidity concerns) but still was pronounced a decent little sports car. Never have driven one, though, so I can't say that Kendall's opinion is spot-on....

For an Englishman driving on the left is a right (if you follow my drift) - it allows one to draw one's sword and engage the footpads without decapitating one's own passengers.

An English standard would come in handy driving through South Central LA....

It is ugly but it was designed for the American market so i guess thats what they like. I went onto a GM forum afew days ago and most of the forum members loved it.

The hallmark of a good design is if it splits people's opinions. You either love it or hate it. In the case of the Camaro, I love it. Really, ykick, you have an unwarranted bad opinion of Americans. Come here and visit and you'll see we're pretty much just like you, but with an accent.

[ykickamoocow 0]

The hallmark of a good design is if it splits people's opinions. You either love it or hate it. In the case of the Camaro, I love it. Really, ykick, you have an unwarranted bad opinion of Americans. Come here and visit and you'll see we're pretty much just like you, but with an accent.

Actually for the most part i do like Americans. I just dont like the American government. 2 days ago a American aircraft carrier entered Sydney Harbour with thousands of sailors aboard and i saw on the news that instead of heading to the nearest Red Light District alot of them donated their time to local charities like helping the St John Ambulance Service and visiting sick children in hosbital. As for my comment it was simply a comment about your country liking different car designs than mine. While alot of Australians find American cars ugly iv also discoved that alot of Americans find Australia cars to be bland. Its all a matter of what your country likes best.

[Max Mosley 2]

Actually for the most part i do like Americans. I just dont like the American government.

And of course you don't like the Aussie government either, I think.

[Autumnpuma 0]

Actually for the most part i do like Americans. I just dont like the American government. 2 days ago a American aircraft carrier entered Sydney Harbour with thousands of sailors aboard and i saw on the news that instead of heading to the nearest Red Light District alot of them donated their time to local charities like helping the St John Ambulance Service and visiting sick children in hosbital. As for my comment it was simply a comment about your country liking different car designs than mine. While alot of Australians find American cars ugly iv also discoved that alot of Americans find Australia cars to be bland. Its all a matter of what your country likes best.

Most of the drivel making their way onto the American highways are shaped like bars of soap with wheels. The exceptions are rare. I actually like the Aussie-designed cars and so does Eric (another American). If those cars were more available here, they would sell. I see quite a few Pontiac GTOs on my daily commute. Style will always sell, but style is not always offered at a reasonable price.

[ykickamoocow 0]

And of course you don't like the Aussie government either, I think.

You are correct. I hate the current government with a passion.

[Max Mosley 2]

Commie Ba5tard!

[ykickamoocow 0]

Most of the drivel making their way onto the American highways are shaped like bars of soap with wheels. The exceptions are rare. I actually like the Aussie-designed cars and so does Eric (another American). If those cars were more available here, they would sell. I see quite a few Pontiac GTOs on my daily commute. Style will always sell, but style is not always offered at a reasonable price.

Well one thing you can deffinetely say about Australian cars is they are alot better priced than European cars.

[Eric 0]

Yes, Aussie cars are sexy and their V8 racing is quite good. I'd like more of that. What channel are they on in Australia? I might get it through my Internet TV...

Yes, our government is annoying.

Yes, they give us all this ugly crap. I've stuck with my black GTI because nothing good is coming out. Everything good costs too much. It's terrible.

-Eric

[ykickamoocow 0]

Commie Ba5tard!

I just dont understand how all our politicians can live in our country all their lives but have no idea what the average person wants. I really hate our governments foreign policy of engaging in useless military coflicts on the other side of the world instead of putting our military to good use to make the Asia-Pacific region more stable.

[ykickamoocow 0]

Yes, Aussie cars are sexy and their V8 racing is quite good. I'd like more of that. What channel are they on in Australia? I might get it through my Internet TV...

What are you looking for exactly?

[Eric 0]

I just dont understand how all our politicians can live in our country all their lives but have no idea what the average person wants.

It does seem pretty stupid. I love how in America we're all "woo the people have their say" but no matter what we say, Bush is stubborn and just keeps doing what he's doing. And our voting system is dumb. The 2000 election Al Gore won the people's vote, but Bush ended up winning based on the retarded votes that I still don't understand. If there was ever a reason to not vote, that was it.

-Eric

[Eric 0]

What are you looking for exactly?

The V8 Supercars. Sorry if that was unclear.

-Eric