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#1 DOF_power

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 12:11 PM

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You start with fuel, you do one stop and it's pretty much a train all the way
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 12:22 PM

View PostDOF_Renault_BMW, on Jul 8 2008, 01:11 PM, said:

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Should keep Frank Williams happy, more space for the sponsors as rear wing sizes are trimmed ;)
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 12:24 AM

The copy cat evolution of the Red Bull engine cover:

Red Bull -------> Renault ---------> Force India ---------> McLaren --------> Who's next???
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 12:29 AM

View Postaussief1, on Jul 9 2008, 10:24 AM, said:

The copy cat evolution of the Red Bull engine cover:

Red Bull -------> Renault ---------> Force India ---------> McLaren --------> Who's next???

STR inherited the design with the RB4 whoops STR3 :P
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 02:47 AM

The official Vodafone McLaren Mercedes terminology is: "Top Body Dorsal Fin" :D
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 02:50 AM

I should really stop talking to myself :lol:

:dam: I just did it again!!!
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
Nathan is: .............. ??

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 06:17 AM

The BMW fin is the coolest.

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 08:10 AM

It looks ugly anyways

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:13 AM

Well you boys wanted the electronics out now deal with the consequences.

You didn't think the teams would leave those cars unstable under braking for the drivers to deal with it now did you ?!
You did, well shucks won't you boys ever learn it ain't the 1950s anymore ?!

I can't wait until the next hidden electronics scandal.   :D

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 03:12 PM

View PostDOF_Renault_BMW, on Jul 9 2008, 10:13 AM, said:

I can't wait until the next hidden electronics scandal.   :D

Whatever floats your boat I guess :lol:
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:29 PM

More to the point is how much they've carved OUT of the rear wing endplates - thats new.

At least to me :P

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:37 PM

View PostHandyNZL, on Jul 10 2008, 07:29 AM, said:

More to the point is how much they've carved OUT of the rear wing endplates - thats new.

At least to me :P

Yeah thats new :D
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:40 AM

View Postaussief1, on Jul 9 2008, 10:24 AM, said:

The copy cat evolution of the Red Bull engine cover:

Red Bull -------> Renault ---------> Force India ---------> McLaren --------> Who's next???

Newey does it again!   :lol:

Not sure if I'm imagining things but the rear wing now seems to have a tiny slit/break right down the middle. Not sure about the mechanics of it though.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:46 PM

Toyota are the next to test the "Shark Fin", or otherwise known as the "Top Body Dorsal Fin" depending on which team you talk to :D
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:48 PM

View PostFwon, on Jul 10 2008, 03:40 AM, said:

Newey does it again!   :lol:

Not sure if I'm imagining things but the rear wing now seems to have a tiny slit/break right down the middle. Not sure about the mechanics of it though.
You are pretty good at sighting cameltoes!  :D

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:01 PM

View Postabbas_gear, on Jul 11 2008, 07:48 AM, said:

You are pretty good at sighting cameltoes!  :D

:lol:

Or moose knuckes

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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
Nathan is: .............. ??

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:03 PM

I think I've gone off on a slight tangent with this one!!!

She has wonderful eyes ;)
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
"We're lucky we don't build aeroplanes" - Mark Webber on Red Bulls reliability issues at the Australian Grand Prix 2008.
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:53 PM

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 09:10 PM

Just a question to experts,

Do you think those fins could catch cross winds easily?

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 10:11 PM

View Postabbas_gear, on Jul 11 2008, 10:10 PM, said:

Just a question to experts,

Do you think those fins could catch cross winds easily?

Nah I think Kimi and Heikki will be fine. Okay that was bad. But from my armchair expert position I'd say yes.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 10:37 PM

I agree with George, with any added surface area you are going make the car more susceptible to winds and the effects of cross winds, however the benefits that the Shark Fin surely outweighs the negative effects for it to be on so many cars.

I would make the bold statement that we will see the Shark Fin on all cars by the end of the season.

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Nah I think Kimi and Heikki will be fine. Okay that was bad. But from my armchair expert position I'd say yes.

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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
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Posted 12 July 2008 - 10:28 AM

View PostRainmaster, on Jul 11 2008, 10:11 PM, said:

Nah I think Kimi and Heikki will be fine. Okay that was bad. But from my armchair expert position I'd say yes.
yeah, they did catch it during last gp, spinning like tops!  :P

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Posted 12 July 2008 - 10:30 AM

View Postaussief1, on Jul 11 2008, 10:37 PM, said:

I agree with George, with any added surface area you are going make the car more susceptible to winds and the effects of cross winds, however the benefits that the Shark Fin surely outweighs the negative effects for it to be on so many cars.

I would make the bold statement that we will see the Shark Fin on all cars by the end of the season.



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Posted 13 July 2008 - 03:33 PM

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Heikki Kovalainen believes Hockenhiem is not the best place to try the new engine cover updates.

He said: The new top body engine cover has been designed to improve aero performance, particularly through high-speed corners and we feel it had an advantage during the Hockenheim test. But its still too early to say; maybe Hockenheim is not the best place to try this new wing and we need to see if it is affected by crosswinds it was quite windy at the Hockenheim test, but we didnt seem to be too affected by the wind. Its definitely encouraging for the future.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 10:20 AM

I guess Kovy is afraid that Kimi's old McLaren omen @ Hockenheim might be haunting him!
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:54 PM

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The circle is complete. I think every team has tested the shark fin now, unless I've left someone out?

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:58 PM

View PostJez, on Jul 25 2008, 05:54 PM, said:

The circle is complete. I think every team has tested the shark fin now, unless I've left someone out?

Yuk that is ugly.

Does anyone know what the benefits are from doing this? What is it that the fin does?

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:25 PM

View PostMeanioni, on Jul 25 2008, 06:58 PM, said:

Yuk that is ugly.

Does anyone know what the benefits are from doing this? What is it that the fin does?
from Autosport Meanioni...

"Although the fins do not create downforce themselves, they do help tidy up airflow to the car's rear wing.

Autosport technical consultant Gary Anderson said: "It's another airflow device. If you imagine the airbox, when you're going at high speed - say over 120mph it can't take in all the air that is coming at it. So you get spillage around the sides of the engine cover.

"That spillage can affect the rear wing, so you're trying to tidy that up and get it to the rear wing in as uniform condition as possible.""

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/69449
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:37 PM

View PostBradSpeedMan, on Jul 25 2008, 06:25 PM, said:

from Autosport Meanioni...

Thanks Brad.

I hope they ban them - an F1 car should be a thing of beauty...

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:52 PM

View PostMeanioni, on Jul 25 2008, 07:37 PM, said:

Thanks Brad.

I hope they ban them - an F1 car should be a thing of beauty...
agree....those things are really ugly!
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