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[pabloh20]

Murray Walker, on May 9 2007, 08:39 PM, said:

Cheers.  So singing had already been invented back then?  Wow!  I learn stuff everyday on this site.  When I grow up I wanna be smart.  My mum says I can do it if I really try.

Well I left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said "dear boy I'm gonna make you a man"

It's a very nice song.  I'm listening to it now!

Can I ask the more antique members of the forum, do you think popular music has become more offensive/controversial/dangerous today or not?  It interests me because a lot of imho talented modern artists are criticised for this, but there are plenty of controversially themed songs like this from the old days too.

Our Mum's always tell us white lies so that we don't feel so bad - that's why she said you're S-P-E-C-I-A-L!    

With regards to offensiveness - well it's the same, just different!  What society classed as offensive then, probably isn't offensive now, but at the time it was controversial.  For example, broadcasters were banned from showing Elvis from the waist down, back in the late 50s, because his movements were considered vulgar and offensive.  Did it even raise an eyebrow less than 10yrs later - not a chance.  However, I would imagine certain music was considered more dangerous back then because these days we've seen it all, done it all, go the tshirt!  

[dribbler]

Murray Walker, on May 9 2007, 08:39 PM, said:

Can I ask the more antique members of the forum, do you think popular music has become more offensive/controversial/dangerous today or not?  It interests me because a lot of imho talented modern artists are criticised for this, but there are plenty of controversially themed songs like this from the old days too.

I don't think music has become more controversial or offensive today. In fact, using Paul's example of Elvis and what was deemed controversial back then, music is probably less controversial than what it was. Society has become far more liberal and tolerant.

By the way, i hope you don't mind hearing my views on this. You asked for antique opinion and i am not really qualified, as one of the dashingly youthfull members of the forum.

[pabloh20]

dribbler, on May 9 2007, 10:25 PM, said:

I don't think music has become more controversial or offensive today. In fact, using Paul's example of Elvis and what was deemed controversial back then, music is probably less controversial than what it was. Society has become far more liberal and tolerant.

By the way, i hope you don't mind hearing my views on this. You asked for antique opinion and i am not really qualified, as one of the dashingly youthfull members of the forum.

But you look old, Steve, so it's ok!  

[Autumnpuma]

pabloh20, on May 9 2007, 02:53 PM, said:

But you look old, Steve, so it's ok!  

Steve can't be old because he and I are the same age...and I'm a spring chicken. Or is that a sprung chicken? Too much choking...

Anyway, listening to Rainbow (Gates of Babylon is fabulous) and Gnarls Barkley. On shuffle. I rule.

EDIT: Murray, music is probably more offensive now than in yesteryear; every generation the bar raises. For instance, my Mum feared the music of Dio and Ozzy that I was listening to back in the early 80's but today that music is very tame compared to the comtemporary stuff. If the bar does indeed raise each generation, an interesting question would be "how close are we to the limits"? How much more can we all be offended? Are future generations going to be deprived of cutting-edge music that truly offends the previous generations?

Edited by Autumnpuma, 09 May 2007 - 10:15 PM.

[Max Mosley]

pabloh20, on May 9 2007, 09:22 PM, said:

Our Mum's always tell us white lies so that we don't feel so bad - that's why she said you're S-P-E-C-I-A-L!  

You mean she was lying?  Phew.  When she said I was special it actually freaked me out a little.  I wanted a Dad like all the other kids...

dribbler, on May 9 2007, 10:25 PM, said:

By the way, i hope you don't mind hearing my views on this. You asked for antique opinion and i am not really qualified, as one of the dashingly youthfull members of the forum.

I know - you put me to shame, what with not being a couch potato and all.

Autumnpuma, on May 9 2007, 11:10 PM, said:

Steve can't be old because he and I are the same age...and I'm a spring chicken. Or is that a sprung chicken? Too much choking...

I read recently that in Elizabethan England they thought that every orgasm a man had shortened his life by a day.  Hence "th'expense of spirit in a waste of shame/ is lust in action" from Shakespeare's great sonnet 129*.  "Spirit" meaning a man's soul (so by having sex you "spend" you soul by shortening it's lifetime by a day), and his semen (his "vital spirit")!  Note the pun on "waist of shame" - perhaps he was screwing a prostitute at the time.

Autumnpuma, on May 9 2007, 11:10 PM, said:

EDIT: Murray, music is probably more offensive now than in yesteryear; every generation the bar raises. For instance, my Mum feared the music of Dio and Ozzy that I was listening to back in the early 80's but today that music is very tame compared to the comtemporary stuff. If the bar does indeed raise each generation, an interesting question would be "how close are we to the limits"? How much more can we all be offended? Are future generations going to be deprived of cutting-edge music that truly offends the previous generations?

Yeah I get the impression every generation has to be able to rebel in some way.  Our generation is so liberal that perhaps our kids will annoy us by being morally uptight - you know, against drugs, against casual sex, maybe even non-violent.  Dear God!  Then the little freaks would really worry me.


*(I think this is very musical in rhythm:)

Th'expense of spirit in a waste of shame
Is lust in action: and till action, lust
Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame,
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
Enjoyed no sooner but despised straight;
Past reason hunted; and no sooner had,
Past reason hated, as a swallowed bait,
On purpose laid to make the taker mad.
Mad in pursuit and in possession so;
Had, having, and in quest to have extreme;
A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe;
Before, a joy proposed; behind a dream.
All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.

[Quiet One]

Murray Walker, on May 9 2007, 09:54 PM, said:

You mean she was lying?  Phew.  When she said I was special it actually freaked me out a little.  I wanted a Dad like all the other kids...
I know - you put me to shame, what with not being a couch potato and all.
I read recently that in Elizabethan England they thought that every orgasm a man had shortened his life by a day.  Hence "th'expense of spirit in a waste of shame/ is lust in action" from Shakespeare's great sonnet 129*.  "Spirit" meaning a man's soul (so by having sex you "spend" you soul by shortening it's lifetime by a day), and his semen (his "vital spirit")!  Note the pun on "waist of shame" - perhaps he was screwing a prostitute at the time.
Yeah I get the impression every generation has to be able to rebel in some way.  Our generation is so liberal that perhaps our kids will annoy us by being morally uptight - you know, against drugs, against casual sex, maybe even non-violent.  Dear God!  Then the little freaks would really worry me.
*(I think this is very musical in rhythm:)

Th'expense of spirit in a waste of shame
Is lust in action: and till action, lust
Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame,
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
Enjoyed no sooner but despised straight;
Past reason hunted; and no sooner had,
Past reason hated, as a swallowed bait,
On purpose laid to make the taker mad.
Mad in pursuit and in possession so;
Had, having, and in quest to have extreme;
A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe;
Before, a joy proposed; behind a dream.
All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.

My reply...in my blog

[Autumnpuma]

Murray Walker, on May 9 2007, 05:54 PM, said:

I read recently that in Elizabethan England they thought that every orgasm a man had shortened his life by a day

I would be dead four years by now.

[BradSpeedMan]

Autumnpuma, on May 10 2007, 12:10 AM, said:

Steve can't be old because he and I are the same age...and I'm a spring chicken. Or is that a sprung chicken? Too much choking...

Anyway, listening to Rainbow (Gates of Babylon is fabulous) and Gnarls Barkley. On shuffle. I rule.

EDIT: Murray, music is probably more offensive now than in yesteryear; every generation the bar raises. For instance, my Mum feared the music of Dio and Ozzy that I was listening to back in the early 80's but today that music is very tame compared to the comtemporary stuff. If the bar does indeed raise each generation, an interesting question would be "how close are we to the limits"? How much more can we all be offended? Are future generations going to be deprived of cutting-edge music that truly offends the previous generations?

It comes down to the "architect" of music and it's influence, you will know what I'm talking about Mike. Music speaks directly to the soul, it's influence is phenominal.....

[Max Mosley]

Autumnpuma, on May 10 2007, 04:27 AM, said:

I would be dead four years by now.

There's no need to brag, Mike!    We're all very jealous of your happy childhood in the good old days:

On his daughters now fatherly doting,
He once was a Playmate-noting,
Ecstatic, pubescent Yank
On work experience at the sperm bank.
If they only knew that he�s still gloating!   

["Work experience" is a 2 week work placement schools arrange for us here to show us what it's like in the workforce.  As such, summer jobbing at the sperm bank must be about as good as it gets. Also the rhyme scheme may have gotten confused at the end - I was tempted to put "still banking".    ]

If it was anything like that, I'll have to admit the 1980's were the best!  

[pabloh20]

Autumnpuma, on May 10 2007, 04:27 AM, said:

I would be dead four years by now.

I will be living until I'm 124......and a half.

[Autumnpuma]

BradSpeedMan, on May 9 2007, 11:07 PM, said:

It comes down to the "architect" of music and it's influence, you will know what I'm talking about Mike. Music speaks directly to the soul, it's influence is phenominal.....

Indeed.

Murray Walker, on May 10 2007, 12:46 AM, said:

There's no need to brag, Mike!    We're all very jealous of your happy childhood in the good old days:

On his daughters now fatherly doting,
He once was a Playmate-noting,
Ecstatic, pubescent Yank
On work experience at the sperm bank.
If they only knew that he�s still gloating!   

["Work experience" is a 2 week work placement schools arrange for us here to show us what it's like in the workforce.  As such, summer jobbing at the sperm bank must be about as good as it gets. Also the rhyme scheme may have gotten confused at the end - I was tempted to put "still banking".    ]

If it was anything like that, I'll have to admit the 1980's were the best!  

[dribbler]

Murray Walker, on May 10 2007, 01:54 AM, said:

You mean she was lying?  Phew.  When she said I was special it actually freaked me out a little.  I wanted a Dad like all the other kids...
I know - you put me to shame, what with not being a couch potato and all.
I read recently that in Elizabethan England they thought that every orgasm a man had shortened his life by a day.  Hence "th'expense of spirit in a waste of shame/ is lust in action" from Shakespeare's great sonnet 129*.  "Spirit" meaning a man's soul (so by having sex you "spend" you soul by shortening it's lifetime by a day), and his semen (his "vital spirit")!  Note the pun on "waist of shame" - perhaps he was screwing a prostitute at the time.
Yeah I get the impression every generation has to be able to rebel in some way.  Our generation is so liberal that perhaps our kids will annoy us by being morally uptight - you know, against drugs, against casual sex, maybe even non-violent.  Dear God!  Then the little freaks would really worry me.
*(I think this is very musical in rhythm:)

Th'expense of spirit in a waste of shame
Is lust in action: and till action, lust
Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame,
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
Enjoyed no sooner but despised straight;
Past reason hunted; and no sooner had,
Past reason hated, as a swallowed bait,
On purpose laid to make the taker mad.
Mad in pursuit and in possession so;
Had, having, and in quest to have extreme;
A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe;
Before, a joy proposed; behind a dream.
All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.

What a highly enjoyable post.

[Max Mosley]

Cheers Steve!  It's not as good as your posts here though.  You really know your music and are passionate about it.  Btw I found the Gravediggaz's 6 Feet Deep album that you recommended a while back.  It is hilarious and "deeply clever" as you mentioned:


Six f.ucking devils stepped up playing brave God
Had the f.ucking nerve to try and enter my grave yard
I'm the Ryzarector*, be my sacrifice:
Commit suicide and I'll bring you back to life.

The first was convinced
Stuck a water hose in his mouth at full blast so his head can explode
Second said hmmmm that's good but I can top it
Put an axe up to his head and then he chopped it
Blood shot out in every direction
The rest didn't know what to do, I made suggestions
Put a slug in your mug, overdose on a drug,
Wet your hair, stick a knife in the plug
Or be like Richard Pryor set your balls on fire.
Better yet go hang yourself with a barbed wire.
Three and Four fell deep into spell and
Ran to the zoo, locked themselves in a lion's den.
Number Five said it ain't worth being alive,
Smoked a dust suede, mixed it with cyanide.

The only one to escape was number Six.
He went home,
Sat in the tub and slit his wrists.

Yeah, more graves to dig. Goodbye.
There's no need to cry...
... cause we all die.

*Spoken by the reaper rapper RZA.

Thanks very much for the tip!  I need to listen more to the Wu-Tang Clan, Cypress Hill.  Atm I don't know much about them really.  Have you heard of the rappers K'naan, Tumi and the Volume, Baba Brinkman or Lupe Fiasco?  You probably have, but if not and you like rap, you might like them too.  There's a lot of good rap music like the Gravediggaz but it's hard to find now with all the rubbish like 50 Cent we get on MTV.

[dribbler]

Murray Walker, on May 10 2007, 10:50 PM, said:

Cheers Steve!  It's not as good as your posts here though.  You really know your music and are passionate about it.  Btw I found the Gravediggaz's 6 Feet Deep album that you recommended a while back.  It is hilarious and "deeply clever" as you mentioned:


Six f.ucking devils stepped up playing brave God
Had the f.ucking nerve to try and enter my grave yard
I'm the Ryzarector*, be my sacrifice:
Commit suicide and I'll bring you back to life.

The first was convinced
Stuck a water hose in his mouth at full blast so his head can explode
Second said hmmmm that's good but I can top it
Put an axe up to his head and then he chopped it
Blood shot out in every direction
The rest didn't know what to do, I made suggestions
Put a slug in your mug, overdose on a drug,
Wet your hair, stick a knife in the plug
Or be like Richard Pryor set your balls on fire.
Better yet go hang yourself with a barbed wire.
Three and Four fell deep into spell and
Ran to the zoo, locked themselves in a lion's den.
Number Five said it ain't worth being alive,
Smoked a dust suede, mixed it with cyanide.

The only one to escape was number Six.
He went home,
Sat in the tub and slit his wrists.

Yeah, more graves to dig. Goodbye.
There's no need to cry...
... cause we all die.

*Spoken by the reaper rapper RZA.

Thanks very much for the tip!  I need to listen more to the Wu-Tang Clan, Cypress Hill.  Atm I don't know much about them really.  Have you heard of the rappers K'naan, Tumi and the Volume, Baba Brinkman or Lupe Fiasco?  You probably have, but if not and you like rap, you might like them too.  There's a lot of good rap music like the Gravediggaz but it's hard to find now with all the rubbish like 50 Cent we get on MTV.

Excellent! I'm glad you have found the Gravediggaz. Your Nan won't lke them but i just find them so lyrically colourful.  The lyrics to 'Diary Of A Madman' are my favourite. I haven't heard of the others you mention, i'll go check them out.

Diary Of A Madman;


lady [They killed my baby..oh god they killed my baby]
judge [Order in the court]
lady [I will make you pay for this you murderers]
judge [I said order in the court now! Now, before this
court passes judgement, will the four  defendents
please rise and approuch the bench]
gravedigga [Trust me guys, it's all under control
the judge is my uncle, he'll take the
insanity plea...oh yeah, don't foget
my retained balance.]
judge [Okay, I understand you guys are pleading insanity
claiming demonic spirits possessed you to do
these hidous murders.  Can you please explain
to the court how these so called spirits made
you into these RAVING MADMEN?!?!]

Verse One: Scientific Shabazz

Be a witness, as I excersize my exorcism
The evil that lurks within the sin, the terrorism
Possessed by evil spirits, voices from the dead
I come forth with gravediggaz in a head full of dread
I've been examined ever since I was seamen
They took a sonogram and seen the image of a demon
At birth the nurses surrounded my with needles
and drugged me all up with the deseases of evil
Grew up in hell, now I dwell, in an Islamic Temple
I'm fighting a holy war in the mental
Look deep into my eyes, you'll see visions of death
Possessed by homicide is what I'm obsessed
Giving niggaz brain dimples
Dragging they asses on my hook by they temples
The cause of death is unknown to the cops
Cause when I kill them, I'm not leavin one element to autopse
First I'll assasinate em
And them I'll cremate them
and take all of his f**king ashes and evaporate em
Or creep through the graveyard and hunt down your tombstone
Dig up your skeleton and stomp all your f**king bones
You try to haunt me nigga, I aint trying to hear it
Buck Buck Buck, I'll give your as* a holy spririt.

gravedigga [stressed full, try to avoid all impure
thoughts. I am loosing my mind . . .]

judge [Can you please explain to the court when these
problems first began?]

Verse Two: Prince Rakeem/Ryzarector

The year 84, November, day 10
Overwhelmed by the wicked inspirations of an evil gen
I realize my ideas has spawned for 400 years
Of blood sweat and tears
I saw the tourture brutal murder of my father
So my brain became stained with the horror
I'm having reoccuring nightmares

Of being soaking wet, strapped down to the electric chair
I got tackled with handcuffs
And shackled in restraint
At the bottom of a holy tabernacle
They gave me nothing to eat for two weeks
And sewed my eye lids open so I couldn't sleep
About to die from thirst, that's when the minister
quinched my jaws with a cold glass of vinegar
Upon my wounds they seasoned my with salt
And nailed my hands feet to the form of the cross
AHH!! I cry
As the blood drips inside of my eye
refusing to die
Visions of hell tormented my face
So I chewed my f**king arm off and made an escape.

guy [ oh no, me mataron mi amigo, hijo de la gran puta
esos cogines me mataron mi amigo que voy a cerca
carajo, cono]

judge [ Calm down people, please calm down
Let us please procede with the
defendents explanation ]

Verse Three: Killer Priest

Enta the realms of understanding
And take good heed
And you could bleed
While I'm standing
Three stages of pure hell
Justications of red cells
*SHH* rain drops hits the pelv
Path is dull and narrow
You're stalked by a shadow
I pierced your skull with a f**king arrow
So narrow, only one could enter at a time
Stuck in the center, read the signs
A thousand doors to choose
You better hurry
Don't stop, sh*t is getting hot as a pot of curry
On your right side there's fire
On you left, deep waters
Watch your step, it's deep waters!
What's that coming through the floor?
It's a claw
*PSSH* took his f**king as* to the f**king core
(AHHH!!)

Verse Four: Fruitkwan/Gatekeeper

Stroll thruogh the dark conditions
I stone you till I see sparks of friction
I chop ya like a coal miner
Then combine the drug
And mix it with your blood
Some more
I give you some more
And watch you crawl
Guts hit the floor
Worms that dig your pores
I trick ya, ha, then I'm quick to syringe
Deep into my thoughts and bust out your skin
You scream, portraits of inflictable pain
You can't stand
You're up to your hands in quick sand
You're sinking and sinking deep into the earth
Thoughts was possessed since the first day of birth
My mental says it's my turn to possess the matta
Stab you with a dagga
Of Jacob's Ladder
Thoughts become shattered, confused, and tragic
Fiery thoughts of Gravediggaz . . .

judge [ GUILTY, next case. ]

[cavallino]

Just got myself one of those mp3 player thingies, and am looking for new stuff to listen to. They're really awesome, they're like cd players except they're smaller and can take multiple albums if you've ever heard of them (You have? Oh. Tou have one? You all have one? Had one for years? Ah well )

Current list of stuff I am busy discovering or rediscovering

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
Radiohead - OK Computer
The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers
ABBA Guilty pleasure. Pure pop, but pure pop perfection, musically oh so perfect.

Need suggestions, take the above stuff as a guide

[cavallino]

I completety forgot, Beatles - Love       Genius, sheer bloody genius.

[Quiet One]

cavallino, on Jun 2 2007, 07:36 AM, said:

Just got myself one of those mp3 player thingies, and am looking for new stuff to listen to. They're really awesome, they're like cd players except they're smaller and can take multiple albums if you've ever heard of them (You have? Oh. Tou have one? You all have one? Had one for years? Ah well )

Current list of stuff I am busy discovering or rediscovering

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
Radiohead - OK Computer
The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers
ABBA Guilty pleasure. Pure pop, but pure pop perfection, musically oh so perfect.

Need suggestions, take the above stuff as a guide

Not much of a help for a guide, except that you are doing your selections on old music by the book...Those are all classics, get yousrelf some Led Zeppelin and you are good to go!
Oh, and one more thing:

ABBA?         
Yeah, I like them too

[Max Mosley]

As do I.

[monza gorilla]

cavallino, on Jun 2 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

Just got myself one of those mp3 player thingies, and am looking for new stuff to listen to. They're really awesome, they're like cd players except they're smaller and can take multiple albums if you've ever heard of them (You have? Oh. Tou have one? You all have one? Had one for years? Ah well )

Current list of stuff I am busy discovering or rediscovering

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
Radiohead - OK Computer
The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers
ABBA Guilty pleasure. Pure pop, but pure pop perfection, musically oh so perfect.

Need suggestions, take the above stuff as a guide

Try "Amused to Death" by Roger Waters. I think it's your cup of tea.

[pabloh20]

cavallino, on Jun 2 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

Just got myself one of those mp3 player thingies, and am looking for new stuff to listen to. They're really awesome, they're like cd players except they're smaller and can take multiple albums if you've ever heard of them (You have? Oh. Tou have one? You all have one? Had one for years? Ah well )

Current list of stuff I am busy discovering or rediscovering

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
Radiohead - OK Computer
The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers
ABBA Guilty pleasure. Pure pop, but pure pop perfection, musically oh so perfect.

Need suggestions, take the above stuff as a guide

cavallino, on Jun 2 2007, 11:37 AM, said:

I completety forgot, Beatles - Love       Genius, sheer bloody genius.

Run Devil Run - Paul McCartney and Dave Gilmour together, with a bit of Mick Green thrown in.  Just a thought.

On a side note I really must listen to some more Pink Floyd - I got put off them by having to watch The Wall in school in General Studies when I was very early into my Blues phase and so it didn't really appeal at the time.

[Jenson_Rules]

i drunk but a week ago today i saw girls aloud in wembley and was betest night of my life. whole live and dancing was gret too. and was very good.

[Quiet One]

Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jun 2 2007, 09:07 PM, said:

i drunk but a week ago today i saw girls aloud in wembley and was betest night of my life. whole live and dancing was gret too. and was very good.

You mean you saw them while being sober and still liked them? Now I am beggining to worry about you, Ben!

[cavallino]

Quiet One, on Jun 2 2007, 10:44 PM, said:

ABBA?         

There's something wrong with me isn't there? I should probably avoid ever hearing a song by Girls Aloud or I might catch whatever Ben has

monza gorilla, on Jun 3 2007, 05:53 AM, said:

Try "Amused to Death" by Roger Waters. I think it's your cup of tea.

Will do

pabloh20, on Jun 3 2007, 08:50 AM, said:

Run Devil Run - Paul McCartney and Dave Gilmour together, with a bit of Mick Green thrown in.  Just a thought.

Will look for that too, sounds very interesting.

Quote

On a side note I really must listen to some more Pink Floyd - I got put off them by having to watch The Wall in school in General Studies when I was very early into my Blues phase and so it didn't really appeal at the time.

You should

[goferrarigo]

cavallino, on Jun 3 2007, 08:55 AM, said:

There's something wrong with me isn't there? I should probably avoid ever hearing a song by Girls Aloud or I might catch whatever Ben has

Cav, i think you missed reading this line by Andres...

Quiet One, on Jun 2 2007, 07:44 AM, said:

Yeah, I like them too

[Quiet One]

goferrarigo, on Jun 3 2007, 12:37 PM, said:

Cav, i think you missed reading this line by Andres...

Thank you AJ...there's still something wrong with us if we like Abba!

[pabloh20]

cavallino, on Jun 3 2007, 02:55 PM, said:

There's something wrong with me isn't there? I should probably avoid ever hearing a song by Girls Aloud or I might catch whatever Ben has
Will do
Will look for that too, sounds very interesting.
You should

No, liking Abba is ok.  Not really a pop fan myself, but Abba are just great.  If you start liking Brotherhood of Man, that's when you start worrying!

[goferrarigo]

Quiet One, on Jun 3 2007, 10:40 AM, said:

Thank you AJ...there's still something wrong with us if we like Abba!

to be honest i have no idea who/what are the ABBA... i listen to very limited english music so...

[Jenson_Rules]

What I meant was I saw them last sat and had a ****ing great time. The concert was amazing and their vocals have yet again improved. Really was a great night!

Seeing them again at some festival thing in the summer woop!

And theres nothing wrong with liking ABBA

[Max Mosley]

Jenson_Rules!!!, on Jun 3 2007, 05:49 PM, said:

And theres nothing wrong with liking ABBA

You're not making him feel better Ben.

[Quiet One]

goferrarigo, on Jun 3 2007, 12:51 PM, said:

to be honest i have no idea who/what are the ABBA... i listen to very limited english music so...

A swedish group that was a huge success in the 70's with very kitsch pop music. You are too young, my friend!