Senna 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 Sato would get utterly thrashed against MS. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As he has against Jenson! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 As he has against Jenson! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, I would agree that Sato is getting thrashed given that JB is 2-0 up on Sato in: Race classification Aggregate Qualifying (sweeping individual sessions as well) and Faster laps However, others have disagreed with us on this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 Yes, I would agree that Sato is getting thrashed given that JB is 2-0 up on Sato in:Race classification Aggregate Qualifying (sweeping individual sessions as well) and Faster laps However, others have disagreed with us on this point. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes but they are all either fanatical Sato fans or Sato sympathisers, people who are utterly blinded by their support of Sato that they completely ignore the facts. To put it quite simply: Sato has had a career which has been marred by crashes, spins, off-track excursions and being badly outperformed by his team-mates. I would totally understated if said people supported Sato because they like him but when they try and make out that he Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 Yes but they are all either fanatical Sato fans or Sato sympathisers, people who are utterly blinded by their support of Sato that they completely ignore the facts. To put it quite simply: Sato has had a career which has been marred by crashes, spins, off-track excursions and being badly outperformed by his team-mates. I would totally understated if said people supported Sato because they like him but when they try and make out that he Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 yeah, sometimes I dont understand why they think Sato is a good driver, well, maybe in other Racing series...there is another Sato... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I cannot understand it either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 thats a terrific good Idea! Maybe Sato should be racing in Champ Car!, I think we would be great there, giving a lot of entertainment and crashes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 I cannot understand it either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 I could think of quite a few Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 Yes, although some of the fans have come around to say that Sato is not as good as Button, but you are quite right in demanding they admit he is not good at all. I imagine we could put together quite an extensive list of current drivers who are probably better than Sato but not in F1. In fact, I may have to start that thread soon... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh Bajo, I think we have enough of Sato...let rest a little about him, maybe we could start something next race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 Oh Bajo, I think we have enough of Sato...let rest a little about him, maybe we could start something next race. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Almost two more weeks though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 I cannot understand it either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 You think we make points, and statements that we don't, thats the main problem. I have already said JB is better then TS, or is that one of the things that is simply not true? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would like to hear you say that, despite his being exciting and so on, he is second-rate in terms of performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 I will say... Sato, is not the best driver, was better then him in 2004 (2005 is too early to be sure about that sort of thing IMO), he is the most exciting driver on the grid, and has the potential to be very good, as we have seen from races where he shows some great pace and overtaking moves. He is no alex yoong, just like he is know Michael Schumacher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 he is no where near MS, how can u say hes know MS, that is utterly crazy! Or do u mean No MS? Yes next thread on our much loved sato will be about the crash he had in Imola and was his own fault! (i know this because i looked into my crystal ball) ook random!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 he is no where near MS, how can u say hes know MS, that is utterly crazy! Or do u mean No MS?Yes next thread on our much loved sato will be about the crash he had in Imola and was his own fault! (i know this because i looked into my crystal ball) ook random!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats what I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 he is no where near MS, how can u say hes know MS, that is utterly crazy! Or do u mean No MS?Yes next thread on our much loved sato will be about the crash he had in Imola and was his own fault! (i know this because i looked into my crystal ball) ook random!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There was really nothing wrong with his remark. Sato pointed out that TS is somewhere between MS and Yoong - this is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecapdeville 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 There was really nothing wrong with his remark. Sato pointed out that TS is somewhere between MS and Yoong - this is true. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> haha, something between the best and the worst... I dont even think TS in the middle of this comparation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 haha, something between the best and the worst... I dont even think TS in the middle of this comparation <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yoong is the worst driver we have seen in the past 5 years whereas Sato is in the top 20 or 25... I don't know about you but mine would include - in a very loose order by grouping: 1-4 M.Schum. Mika.H. F.Alonso Kimi.R. J.Button 6-15 J.Trulli G.Fisi. JP.Montoya M.Webber N.Heidfeld R.Schum. Rubens.B. D.Coulthard J.Vill. F.Massa 16-25 T.Sato O.Panis Jos.V HH.Frentzen E.Irvine PD.Rosa C.Klien A.Wurz A.Davidson J.Wilson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 I think you've got a few drivers alittle low, IE Klien, he has been nothing short of great this season, for a man in his second year under pressure to eprfrom against the experince of DC, atleast in IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nojvnof1 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 the pictures posted by bajo39 on another thread support that the move happened, a website remarked it as move of the race and maybe the season and a few of us saw it. Why would we make something like this up, sheesh , I'm not a big Taku fan, so why would I make something up. If this was the same situation, but JB having made the move, it would have been milked for all it's worth, but since the "useless" and "inept" Sato (other's words, not mine) made it, it has to be made up, get over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nojvnof1 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 jenson_rules, I don't normally bash someone's opinion, but Im not gonna let mine get bashed either. you want bulls##t??, read some of the stuff you post when you're drunk. If you'd bother to read what I said, then you'd know I was talking about YEARS IN F1, not the age of the driver. This is JB's sixth year in F1, drivers in their 1st-3rd year in F1 have potential, after that, it's deliver or you're not good enough. Look, this is MW's 4th yr in F1, and he's doing OK so far, this is JB's sixth, so lose the "potential" tag and start raising your expectations, cos he's almost a veteran, besides, you'd have nothing to worry about if he's half as good as you think he is, which he isn't. Now retreating to my bunker, please direct all anti-JV/pro-JB quotes at the nearest brick wall, which gives more of a damn then I do. Have a nice day!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nojvnof1 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 bajo, points aren't awarded for quali, faster laps, finishes out of top 8. Hence, they're both on 0 points, thus they're still at square 1!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ksajoe 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 Yoong is the worst driver we have seen in the past 5 years whereas Sato is in the top 20 or 25... I don't know about you but mine would include - in a very loose order by grouping:1-4 M.Schum. Mika.H. F.Alonso Kimi.R. J.Button 6-15 J.Trulli G.Fisi. JP.Montoya M.Webber N.Heidfeld R.Schum. Rubens.B. D.Coulthard J.Vill. F.Massa 16-25 T.Sato O.Panis Jos.V HH.Frentzen E.Irvine PD.Rosa C.Klien A.Wurz A.Davidson J.Wilson <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's very hard to visualize JB being better than Nick Heidfield who is worse than DC who is worse than RB who is worse than JPM - so explain how he slots in within the top five Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 He did say over past 5 years, so i guess perhaps he meant going on their best performances in that time? I didn't notice that at first....but i still think CK is too low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 Yoong is the worst driver we have seen in the past 5 years whereas Sato is in the top 20 or 25... I don't know about you but mine would include - in a very loose order by grouping:1-4 M.Schum. Mika.H. F.Alonso Kimi.R. J.Button 6-15 J.Trulli G.Fisi. JP.Montoya M.Webber N.Heidfeld R.Schum. Rubens.B. D.Coulthard J.Vill. F.Massa 16-25 T.Sato O.Panis Jos.V HH.Frentzen E.Irvine PD.Rosa C.Klien A.Wurz A.Davidson J.Wilson <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do not agree with you on this. I assume we are rating drivers as they were/are at their best? If this is true JV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites