raikkonen_rulez 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 (GMM) Behind Michael Schumacher, Kimi Raikkonen is the second best driver in Formula One, a specialist British magazine has found. In the May edition, 'F1 Racing' magazine asked 72 insiders - including ex-drivers, world champions, team personnel, journalists and fans - the not-so-simple question. Raikkonen, McLaren's 25-year-old Finn, earned 27 (to Fernando Alonso's sixteen) votes. ''He has lightening speed,'' said 1979 champion Jody Scheckter, while 1996 title winner Damon Hill singled out KR's near mistake-free talent. Ferrari's Rubens Barrichello earned nine votes, Giancarlo Fisichella eight, and Juan Pablo Montoya - Kimi's Colombian-born teammate - three. ''Kimi may be quiet,'' fellow Finn and '98-'99 champion Mika Hakkinen added, ''but he's got a champion's confidence.'' This has come as a surprise to me, although I am a kimi fan, I believe most people rank Alonso above him. Podium-wise I believe Alonso has more too. Comments anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 It's my personal, maybe slightly biased, view Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed up 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 (GMM) Behind Michael Schumacher, Kimi Raikkonen is the second best driver in Formula One, a specialist British magazine has found.In the May edition, 'F1 Racing' magazine asked 72 insiders - including ex-drivers, world champions, team personnel, journalists and fans - the not-so-simple question. Raikkonen, McLaren's 25-year-old Finn, earned 27 (to Fernando Alonso's sixteen) votes. ''He has lightening speed,'' said 1979 champion Jody Scheckter, while 1996 title winner Damon Hill singled out KR's near mistake-free talent. Ferrari's Rubens Barrichello earned nine votes, Giancarlo Fisichella eight, and Juan Pablo Montoya - Kimi's Colombian-born teammate - three. ''Kimi may be quiet,'' fellow Finn and '98-'99 champion Mika Hakkinen added, ''but he's got a champion's confidence.'' This has come as a surprise to me, although I am a kimi fan, I believe most people rank Alonso above him. Podium-wise I believe Alonso has more too. Comments anyone? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You may be right m8, but to be WDC you need a bit of luck and consistency Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 They're both very good and its very difficult to say who's better atm. Until this year I would have favoured KR but Alonso has impressed me whereas Kimi hasn't really so I will defer judgement. I think Kimi has actually made a few mistakes this year contrary to DH's claims though. I would say, especially after the last race, that FA makes fewer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiko01 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 They're both very good and its very difficult to say who's better atm. Until this year I would have favoured KR but Alonso has impressed me whereas Kimi hasn't really so I will defer judgement. I think Kimi has actually made a few mistakes this year contrary to DH's claims though. I would say, especially after the last race, that FA makes fewer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaciaj 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 Both,along with Schumacher are a class of their own in Formula 1...it's hard to say who's better,you can consider that Fernando,despite being younger is a lot confident and what he did in Imola was simply stunning...However they both deserve a world championship crown and I think nobody might say the opposite.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taku 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 It's my personal, maybe slightly biased, view <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...that... well i'm surprsied that fisi rated so highly, esp. considering his form of late. oh wait, it was f1 racing wasn't it?...now i'm not surprised. where was jb? surely he was just after jpm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taku 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 Both,along with Schumacher are a class of their own in Formula 1...it's hard to say who's better,you can consider that Fernando,despite being younger is a lot confident and what he did in Imola was simply stunning...However they both deserve a world championship crown and I think nobody might say the opposite.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think kimi would have done just as well given that sort of pressure. i definitely agree that for his age alonso has such amazing self-confidence, but alonso was given a much more gradual indoctrination into f1. recall he was a tester for renault, then racer for minardi, and then elevated to the renault race team. kimi went straight into sauber, then mclaren. this is not to detract from alonso's impressiveness, only that kimi was thrust into f1 whereas alonso had relatively more time to adjust to the bigtime. i can't wait for them to go head-to-head, but i would agree with f1-racing and put my money on kimi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 Yes, where was Jenson!!! surely he would be placed above rubens AT LEAST, i would put GF and JPM above rubens too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiko01 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 i think kimi would have done just as well given that sort of pressure. i definitely agree that for his age alonso has such amazing self-confidence, but alonso was given a much more gradual indoctrination into f1. recall he was a tester for renault, then racer for minardi, and then elevated to the renault race team. kimi went straight into sauber, then mclaren. this is not to detract from alonso's impressiveness, only that kimi was thrust into f1 whereas alonso had relatively more time to adjust to the bigtime. i can't wait for them to go head-to-head, but i would agree with f1-racing and put my money on kimi. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> FA is the third ever younger racer in F1. He drove for Minardi and them he was a tester for Renault. Both (FA and KR) have been driving since they are 3 or 4 years so although they are very young they are very experienced as well. Alonso Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenson_Rules 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 ahh thats nice, JB has been driving since 7yrs old, so they had a 3/4 year advantage lol. Ahh well, that means nothing at all really. I still think he should at least have been infront of rubens!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaciaj 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 ahh thats nice, JB has been driving since 7yrs old, so they had a 3/4 year advantage lol. Ahh well, that means nothing at all really.I still think he should at least have been infront of rubens!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're right JR...Barrichelloshould be right behind JB!!Rubens is often underrated but I don't really think he is better than JB not at all!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 (GMM) Behind Michael Schumacher, Kimi Raikkonen is the second best driver in Formula One, a specialist British magazine has found.In the May edition, 'F1 Racing' magazine asked 72 insiders - including ex-drivers, world champions, team personnel, journalists and fans - the not-so-simple question. Raikkonen, McLaren's 25-year-old Finn, earned 27 (to Fernando Alonso's sixteen) votes. ''He has lightening speed,'' said 1979 champion Jody Scheckter, while 1996 title winner Damon Hill singled out KR's near mistake-free talent. Ferrari's Rubens Barrichello earned nine votes, Giancarlo Fisichella eight, and Juan Pablo Montoya - Kimi's Colombian-born teammate - three. ''Kimi may be quiet,'' fellow Finn and '98-'99 champion Mika Hakkinen added, ''but he's got a champion's confidence.'' This has come as a surprise to me, although I am a kimi fan, I believe most people rank Alonso above him. Podium-wise I believe Alonso has more too. Comments anyone? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 FA is the third ever younger racer in F1. He drove for Minardi and them he was a tester for Renault. Both (FA and KR) have been driving since they are 3 or 4 years so although they are very young they are very experienced as well.Alonso Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 ...that...well i'm surprsied that fisi rated so highly, esp. considering his form of late. oh wait, it was f1 racing wasn't it?...now i'm not surprised. where was jb? surely he was just after jpm. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> now now taku i am sure they did the poll and excluded JB or else he would have been ahead of KR surely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 now now taku i am sure they did the poll and excluded JB or else he would have been ahead of KR surely <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes but behind Karthikeyan hey shadow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 nah may be behind JV. NK has got a long way to go yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 nah may be behind JV. NK has got a long way to go yet <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I doubt JV features on the list. I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 what Kimi experienced before he entered F1. enlighten me folks if i am wrong but i thought the guy just had around 20 races or so before Sauber signed him <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes I seem to remember about 40 car races but obviously lots of karting before Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sato 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 He's doing more then beating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 He's doing more then beating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 I doubt JV features on the list. I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 cut that " ? " out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 There would be nothing left if we did that. Now that wouldn't be very interesting would it? Perhaps it would be better than some of my posts though ... What do you think Shadow????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites