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KoolMonkey

Mario Just Gave Me A Heart Attack :(

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narain fan    0

narain fan
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hahahahahaha :naughty: (that smile looks a bit pervy...)

Narian fan - look up the phrase "taking the p**s"

Doesn't Rockingham have a non oval configuration too? Or am I dreaming of space age racing again?

that was meant to take a dig at 13 year olds why are u reacting to it are u 13 as well!!!!!

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jimbo    0

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So now Mario the mouth says they will have a "Driver Shootout" to determine the second seat! What did this guy do buy a copy of the David Richards play book? Now Wurz and Pizaboy are high on the list? Sure hope JV beets FM in the next 2 races to prove a point.

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Null    0

Null
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Yeah I just read this and I was just about to post it!

No chance will Pizzaboy get a drive. Mario has sense.

personally, I think it will be JV or Wurz

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narain fan    0

narain fan
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Why are you criticising a fellow poster simply because he is 13?

i am certainly not critisizing a fellow poster simply because he is 13 ,to say the least...

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Chris Strange    0

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That would normally be the case yes, but if BMW wanted to keep Jacques, they surely would have said so by now, perhaps they have not said anything because they are searching for a way out of it.

Exactly! and they found it. This shootout nonsense is probably purely a plot to get rid of JV without getting their image too damaged. It works something like this: JV refuses the driver comparison giving BMW a good reason of not honouring his contract ...... looks much better on a marketing plan devised not to alienate BMW image... Well it's just a theory but.......

?

Wurz does not deserve the spot over Villeneuve...

and why not? :eusa_think:

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AutoRacer5    0

AutoRacer5
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Wurz does deserve a drive though, a podium at Imola proves this even though before that he hadnt raced since 2000.

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Null    0

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because Wurz is crapper than JV...

Wurz only looks good in testing because he's in a McLaren. He was crap in a racing situation. The podium this year was good though

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nojvnof1    0

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Wurz does not deserve the spot over Villeneuve...
I agree, but out of he and Pizzonia, Wurz is the better of the two. Wurz did very well indeed at Imola, but it helped that he was in the best car on the grid!
Indeed, Wurz was very disappointing back in 2000, was it?

yep it was 2000.

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funkejay    0

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That would normally be the case yes, but if BMW wanted to keep Jacques, they surely would have said so by now, perhaps they have not said anything because they are searching for a way out of it.

Becuase BMW purchased Sauber as a going concern, they acquire the liabilities of the team as well as their assets. Those liabilities include the employment contacts between Sauber and its employees, of which one just so happens to be a French Canadian driver with a contract for 2006. Put very simply, BMW has a legal obligation to honor JV's contract and give him the remaining drive alongside NH for 2006. And from what JV has said, there appear to be no 'loopholes' in his contract with Sauber (now BMW) that would give either of them the opportunity to opt out of the second year of their deal.

So, does that mean that BMW can't put someone else in the seat? Of course not - they'll just go ahead and do what-ever-the-hell they want - afterall, it's their team, right? But whatever they decide, it's not going to depend on their lawyers finding an escape clause in the agreement (as it doesn't appear there is one), instead it will simply come down to BMW fronting the money to buy JV out of his contract. (Believe me, that's how almost all contract disputes are resolved.)

In any event, I hope it doesn't come to that..... but to be safe, I'm holding off buying my 2006 Montreal GP tickets until there's confirmation one way or the other. And depending on how things go, I just might have to take a look at some of the new Mercs and Audis instead of the 330CI I was planning on ordering. :angry::angry::angry:

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funkejay    0

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This shootout nonsense is probably purely a plot to get rid of JV without getting their image too damaged. It works something like this: JV refuses the driver comparison giving BMW a good reason of not honouring his contract ...... looks much better on a marketing plan devised not to alienate BMW image...

JV has every right to refuse the shoot-out, as he already has a binding contract with BMW. He'd be a fool to agree to it, and BMW know he won't be reduced to that.

You're right that the whole idea is nothing more than PR posturing, but (unless there are some very peculiar clauses in JV's contract - and he keeps saying that there are not) you're wrong to suggest if JV refuses to participate in their 'driver evaluation' that it would give BMW a legitimate reason to not honor his contract.

Take my word on this people, when it comes to the legalities of contracts, I know of which I speak.

The only way out of this for BMW is with JV's agreement, or else they face a lawsuit, and either way, it will come down to money in the end.

BMW know that, so what they will invariably end up doing is determining who they really want and then assess how much it is worth to BMW to have them in the car. If it is more than what it will cost to pay that driver PLUS the cost of JV's buyout, then its goodnight and goodbye to the '97 WDC. If not, then we'll likely see another year of the plucky young French Canadian in F1.

It really is as simple as that........ ;););)

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bajo39    0

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Becuase BMW purchased Sauber as a going concern, they acquire the liabilities of the team as well as their assets. Those liabilities include the employment contacts between Sauber and its employees, of which one just so happens to be a French Canadian driver with a contract for 2006. Put very simply, BMW has a legal obligation to honor JV's contract and give him the remaining drive alongside NH for 2006. And from what JV has said, there appear to be no 'loopholes' in his contract with Sauber (now BMW) that would give either of them the opportunity to opt out of the second year of their deal.

So, does that mean that BMW can't put someone else in the seat? Of course not - they'll just go ahead and do what-ever-the-hell they want - afterall, it's their team, right? But whatever they decide, it's not going to depend on their lawyers finding an escape clause in the agreement (as it doesn't appear there is one), instead it will simply come down to BMW fronting the money to buy JV out of his contract. (Believe me, that's how almost all contract disputes are resolved.)

In any event, I hope it doesn't come to that..... but to be safe, I'm holding off buying my 2006 Montreal GP tickets until there's confirmation one way or the other. And depending on how things go, I just might have to take a look at some of the new Mercs and Audis instead of the 330CI I was planning on ordering. :angry::angry::angry:

Jay, let me know before you order your tickets, we have to go together... Unless you're bringing that annoying woman of yours?

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