Vw Torro Rosso In 08!?????????????

[narain fan 0]

According to reports in Germany Volkswagen boss Bernd Pischetsrieder and Red Bull boss Dietrich Mateschitz have been talking about deals in the future in Formula 1. The stories say that former BMW Motorsport boss Gerhard Berger is in the middle of all the intrigue.

It should be said at this point that there are regular rumours about Volkswagen but nothing has yet come of it.

The lastest rumour suggests that VW's Audi offshoot would provide engines to Red Bull Racing and Squadra Toro Rosso in 2008. If that is successful, so goes the theory, the German car manufacturer would then take over Squadra Toro Rosso and run the team with Volkswagen branding. The theory is that the Audi engines would be built for the German company by Mario Illien, although traditionally the company has done its own engines at Ingoldstadt where there is a large and very successful engine development department. Having said that when Mercedes-Benz entered F1 it did so hiding behind the Ilmor name. The other name that has been mentioned in relation to the project is former Toyota man Norbert Kreyer. In Austria there is already talk that Red Bull is going to develop a technology park for Volkswagen at the A1 Ring and logically this would mean that one or both teams would be relocated to Austria which would fit in with Mateschitz's desire to be a national hero in his home land.

[jjoseph 0]

Good news. I can see few wins for Redbull in 2008

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Perhaps in a few years from now there will be a mighty Red Bull empire, dominating everything and making billions of pounds/dollars/yen/euros/rupees

[narain fan 0]

Perhaps in a few years from now there will be a mighty Red Bull empire, dominating everything and making billions of pounds/dollars/yen/euros/rupees

and and, u forgot yuan!

[bajo39 0]

Perhaps in a few years from now there will be a mighty Red Bull empire, dominating everything and making billions of pounds/dollars/yen/euros/rupees

The rupee does not belong in that list.

and and, u forgot yuan!

Yes, the Chinese Yuan Ren Min Bi would have been a better choice than the Rupee but the Swiss Franc would obviously be a better choice still.

[narain fan 0]

The rupee does not belong in that list.

Yes, the Chinese Yuan Ren Min Bi would have been a better choice than the Rupee but the Swiss Franc would obviously be a better choice still.

go on......as much as u wish.as they say,u can love it ,u can hate it but u cannot avoid it!

[Shadow 0]

go on......as much as u wish.as they say,u can love it ,u can hate it but u cannot avoid it!

[kiko01 0]

A couple of years ago i read in F1 Racing that VW group was interested in F1. Let

[MannTecV10 0]

I can see it now. STR (ex Minardi) being Italian with VW/Audi engines, there is only one way to go: Team Bugatti! However, Personally I would like to see Team Bentley!

[Senna 0]

[Taku 0]

well matesich is definitely a deal maker if nothing else.

as for a red bull world empire, it could happen. but i imagine the formula one program and other marketing activities take a sizable chunk and you can only sell so much of one drink! either way i'd be a happy billionaire to have 2 f1 teams to play with!

[ykickamoocow 0]

The best way for VW to enter F1 is to buy Cosworth. Not only does Cosworth have extensive knowledge of how to build a engine and they also have amazing facilities. This would be best because not only will they be powering a great team like Williams but they also have the opinion to supply engines to other teams like STR.

[Taku 0]

man, i just wish i was a billionaire with 2 f1 teams to play with. not everyone would agree with my driver selections though...

[MannTecV10 0]

The best way for VW to enter F1 is to buy Cosworth. Not only does Cosworth have extensive knowledge of how to build a engine and they also have amazing facilities. This would be best because not only will they be powering a great team like Williams but they also have the opinion to supply engines to other teams like STR.

I think Cosworth probably will be brought by a car maker soon due to this undoubted potential, personel and facilities. But for the moment it has only been independant from Ford for less than a year, and no doubt there are still too many ties with Ford for VW's liking. Plus i'm not sure how much US business the Volkswagen group does nowadays (I doubt many Skoda's or Seat's are sold over there) and any purchase of Cosworth would probably come with major commitments to IRL. Mind you that god awful new(ish) Beatle seems to be a big seller over the pond. To be honest, I see Asian money buying Cosworth. I don't think the Hyundai rumors were(are?) unjustified as they are a massive company who are rapidly moving out of the cheap and cheerful car market and into what traditionally in Europe at least is Ford, VW and Opal/Vauxhall teritory. Proton is also a company to watch. Especially as fellow Malaysian company Petronas has lost its engine ties to the Sauber Ferrari. Perhaps they could fund an all Malay engine program together through the purchase of Cosworth. (heck, chuck Proton owned Lotus into that mix and we could have a Malaysian team! - just keep Yooung away from the damm thing!)

[bajo39 0]

man, i just wish i was a billionaire with 2 f1 teams to play with. not everyone would agree with my driver selections though...

I would criticize them heavily. Or perhaps only one of the selections, would you have JV on the team? That might make up for having a pay driver in the second slot depending on which one you selected

[Senna 0]

I would criticize them heavily. Or perhaps only one of the selections, would you have JV on the team? That might make up for having a pay driver in the second slot depending on which one you selected

I would be even more vocal in my criticism. I imagine you

[Wez 0]

A couple of years ago i read in F1 Racing that VW group was interested in F1. Let

[monza gorilla 1]

I can see it now. STR (ex Minardi) being Italian with VW/Audi engines, there is only one way to go: Team Bugatti! However, Personally I would like to see Team Bentley!

Slight problem, there. Although Ettore Bugatti was born in Milan, the cars were French.

The best way for VW to enter F1 is to buy Cosworth. Not only does Cosworth have extensive knowledge of how to build a engine and they also have amazing facilities. This would be best because not only will they be powering a great team like Williams but they also have the opinion to supply engines to other teams like STR.

VW actually sold Cosworth to Ford in 1998, the same year that they bought the company from Vickers. They split the company into 2 entities: Cosworth Racing, which they sold, and Cosworth Technologies which they retained as a powertrain consultancy but sold in 2004 to the Mahle group.