Hear The Difference

[bajo39 0]

Sound byte: Hear the difference between the V10 and V8

Next season F1 teams will have to race with V8 engines or those who cannot afford the development will be permitted to run restricted V10 engines. The new engines have about 20% less power and so not only is the power lower, so is the sound of the engine. F1Racing.net brings you two sound clips from testing in Barcelona this morning to hear the difference of the V10 and V8 engine.

The sound clips were recorded this morning in Barcelona during winter testing. The first clip is a restricted V10 engine, driven by Vitantonio Liuzzi in the Scuderia Toro Rosso car. The second clip is the Mercedes V8 engine that Pedro de la Rosa is driving.

Listen to the restricted V10 engine (http://www.f1racing.net/en/v10.wma)

Listen to the V8 engine (http://www.f1racing.net/en/v8.wma)

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The V8 does indeed sound mute compared to the V10 and I cannot decifer the promised increas in pitch from the higher revs. This is very disappointing...

[Null 0]

I really do love the V8's of DTM and GP2 a lot... more than the V10s of F1. The V8 of F1 really does suck compared with those!!! You can tell the pitch has been altered to emulate a V10, when in fact, it just makes it sound crap. The V10s sound much better for F1.

[Null 0]

http://www.dtm.de/video/dtm-clip-49.wmv

http://www.dtm.de/video/dtm-clip-48.wmv

Just love it... especially the onboard shots... awesome sound. If F1 had that, I sure as hell wouldn't complain!

[MannTecV10 0]

Thats great, but surely to be more scientific, they should have had a tripple test on the three Cosworth engines out there today. Klien's 2005 V10, Liuzzi's restricted V10 and then one of the Williams V8 Cosworths! The Merc and Cosworth V10's sounded different enough!

[Jenson_Rules 0]

OMFG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it sounds Sh#t! NOOOOOOOOO

[Senna 0]

Regarding the new engine: It sounds like Danica Patrick. It should sound like Michael Schumacher.

[Taku 0]

good post bajo. the v8 sounds disappointing indeed. i look forward to hearing the honda, toyota and cosworth units.

[pumpdoc 2]

good post bajo. the v8 sounds disappointing indeed. i look forward to hearing the honda, toyota and cosworth units.

unlesss you are at a race you'll never know the difference---the V-10 live will shatter your ear drums...........

[Jenson_Rules 0]

ahh silverstone 03 and barcelon the year before. wonderful! im well annoyed i cant go to silverstone next year, stupid a levels!

[Wez 0]

The V8 does indeed sound mute compared to the V10 and I cannot decifer the promised increas in pitch from the higher revs. This is very disappointing...

Indeed Bajo... Indeed.

The new V8 2.4l engine rule is a load of sh1t!!!

[Jenson_Rules 0]

it is indeed! Whats the point, its supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport, so it should have the best engines and be the fastest and best and safest and most entertaining!

[monza gorilla 1]

Best does not mean most cylinders! Or biggest engine. Leave that to more primitive forms of motorsport, such as tractor pulling.....

[Jenson_Rules 0]

by best i mean the best engines for the sort of machine! and a V8 is not the best possible engine for an f1!

[monza gorilla 1]

I meant that a small engine can be just as technologically advanced as a large one. Remember that state of the art, and the engine to have in the 80s was a four cylinder 1.5 litre!!! Don't get me wrong, I understand what you mean, but I just don't think capacity and configuration are such a critical part of the sport.

[Null 0]

my car only has 4

[pumpdoc 2]

my car only has 4

But I'm sure they work very hard

[Null 0]

I make sure of that, trust me

[bajo39 0]

Regarding the new engine: It sounds like Danica Patrick. It should sound like Michael Schumacher.

Good analogy.

Monza: regarding displacement and configuration, you are absolutely right. Specific engine size and configuration are not themselves integral to the sport but technological and performance supremacy are. We cannot allow the engines to be restricted to the point where they are not the most powerful in open-wheel motor-racing - that would be a disaster. Further, for any given configuration, bigger is better and freedom of design (which we no longer enjoy) is paramount.

[narain fan 0]

Good analogy.

Monza: regarding displacement and configuration, you are absolutely right. Specific engine size and configuration are not themselves integral to the sport but technological and performance supremacy are. We cannot allow the engines to be restricted to the point where they are not the most powerful in open-wheel motor-racing - that would be a disaster. Further, for any given configuration, bigger is better and freedom of design (which we no longer enjoy) is paramount.

indeed we would love to see renault v8's with a narrover v angle!

[bajo39 0]

indeed we would love to see renault v8's with a narrover v angle!

Well, I think we would love a Ferrari V12, a Mercedes V10, a Cosworth V8, etc, all competing alongside one another...

[narain fan 0]

Well, I think we would love a Ferrari V12, a Mercedes V10, a Cosworth V8, etc, all competing alongside one another...

.... and customer chassis ,privateer teams eddie jordan and his paddock antics...

[monza gorilla 1]

I agree, Bajo, that the power output should not be compromised. My personal opinion is that the designers should be given a completely free hand, the only proviso being a 3 litre maximum capacity. Configuration would be to the designers choice.

Maybe it's age and rose tinted nostalgia glasses, but I don't remember being unduly disappointed by the DFVs. I'll reserve judgement on the 2.4 litre formula until I've actually heard one in the metal so to speak.

[bajo39 0]

I agree, Bajo, that the power output should not be compromised. My personal opinion is that the designers should be given a completely free hand, the only proviso being a 3 litre maximum capacity. Configuration would be to the designers choice.

I couldn't agree with you more... Whatever the capacity that is 'safe', allow complete freedom on configuration.

[pumpdoc 2]

Sad to say with the neutering of F1 engines they shall drop in horsepower below pushrod carburated V-8's of NASCAR...........750-800hp at 9,500rpm

[Senna 0]

Well, I think we would love a Ferrari V12, a Mercedes V10, a Cosworth V8, etc, all competing alongside one another...

Indeed.