Dr Frankostein Is Setting Jv Up Already...

[YHR 0]

I think you're approaching the point of splitting hairs, guys. I don't think your views are that far apart.

Scary isn't it

[monza gorilla 1]

It worries me..... (but not as much as the anonymous members lurking around the place..... )

[Max Mosley 2]

It scares the hell out of me I can tell you!

Btw notice I've already agreed with nojvnof1 in this thread. Whats happening to me...

[Senna 0]

And for getting BMW to retain him and for getting BAT(?) to pay him a small fortune and for...

Indeed.

[nojvnof1 0]

Btw notice I've already agreed with nojvnof1 in this thread. Whats happening to me...

it's taken alot of time and effort, but now you're seeing the light.

Just on JV's 1999 salary, it came at a time when JV's services were in high demand, and hence his asking price was justifiably high. He'd won the title only a few months prior (this is when JV signed the contract for BAR at the German GP I think in 1998) and there was the whole Villeneuve vs Schumacher rivalry as JV was the champion M$ feared, not Mika (not my words, they're of Patrick Head after Mika won the title and of an Autosport headline only two weeks ago, but I agree). As for his current salary, it's about 2 or 3 mill with bonuses, so it's fair.

[Karta 0]

Not the Frankenstein the thread title is about, but:

Former BAR boss David Richards has launched an outspoken attack against Jacques Villeneuve, dismissing the French/Canadian as "past his sell-by date" and suggesting that he may be a disruptive influence at BMW.

There's no love lost between the pair after their turbulent relationship at BAR culminated in Richards deciding not to offer JV a new deal. Or at least a contract offering a salary in excess of

[Senna 0]

Richards really doesn

[Max Mosley 2]

it's taken alot of time and effort, but now you're seeing the light.

In fairness I think it was more a case of you agreeing with me! But perhaps there I go splitting hairs again...

Interesting article Karta. I look forward to seeing if he is "past his sell by date" next year.

[Senna 0]

In fairness I think it was more a case of you agreeing with me! But perhaps there I go splitting hairs again...

Interesting article Karta. I look forward to seeing if he is "past his sell by date" next year.

This is slightly vindictive of DR. I mean he

[YHR 0]

This is slightly vindictive of DR. I mean he

[nojvnof1 0]

Also has anyone heard one bad word from JV about Dave Richards?.

Upon his return, I read an article where JV said he was very happy DR was given the boot and his only regret was that he wasn't a part of his downfall. I'm not saying JV has conducted himself in the low manner DR has, but JV has said some things in this debate as well, just with more class.

All this article does is provide further evidence (to the JV fans at least) that Richards has no class, and further proves DR had/has it in for JV.

[funkejay 0]

We are equally, if not more, harsh on Ralf. I suspect JV was getting more than MH and DH, while most people would rate MH, at least, more highly.

Hardly. MH was an emotional and tempermental type that lacked the necessary mental rigour required to continue competing at the F1 level. JV is as tough as nails, and had Williams managed to keep the Renault powerplant another year, would certainly have mounted a convincing campaign for the title again in '98. In addition, apart from Ferrari, there are few teams that enforced such disparate treatment between drivers as McLaren in '98 and '99, where poor DC got shafted again and again, which contributed greatly to MH's success.

it's taken alot of time and effort, but now you're seeing the light.

Just on JV's 1999 salary, it came at a time when JV's services were in high demand, and hence his asking price was justifiably high. He'd won the title only a few months prior (this is when JV signed the contract for BAR at the German GP I think in 1998) and there was the whole Villeneuve vs Schumacher rivalry as JV was the champion M$ feared, not Mika (not my words, they're of Patrick Head after Mika won the title and of an Autosport headline only two weeks ago, but I agree). As for his current salary, it's about 2 or 3 mill with bonuses, so it's fair.

And don't forget that JV offered to drive for Ferrari for free a number of years ago, an offer which MS refused to allow the Maranello outfit to even consider (as Schumi has a power of veto over any teammate written into his contract).

[nojvnof1 0]

And don't forget that JV offered to drive for Ferrari for free a number of years ago, an offer which MS refused to allow the Maranello outfit to even consider (as Schumi has a power of veto over any teammate written into his contract).

Indeed.

[Senna 0]

Indeed.

Indeed. However, Michael did choose JV

[YHR 0]

Indeed. However, Michael did choose JV

[funkejay 0]

Indeed. However, Michael did choose JV

[Senna 0]

Not so, as he would never agree to having two previous WDC in the team. Although JV had a difficult start to 2005, he was pretty much on terms with FM by the end of the year (as virtually everyone in the Sauber Team has attested), and as a result, FM was the less threatening of the two - provided it was only a one year contract being offered. That virtually guarantees that FM won't pose much problem for Schumi, given that the car is designed almost exclusively with his input in mind, and tailored to his driving style.

FM will be in much the situation Fisi was last year, trying to come to terms with changes to a Team that he hasn't worked with for a number of years and trying to match a very quick teammate in a car not designed for him. No matter how well he does, it's going to be a tough year, and it won't reflect particularly well on him. Ideally, FM should have insisted on two years, but realistically, he was in no position to negotiate, and was very probably prepared to take whatever was offered just to get into a top flight team.

JV had a diabolical start to 2005. He still wasn

[AutoRacer5 0]

Their relationship has cooled down, but Im not sure, how long is Felipe contracted to drive for Maranello?

[Max Mosley 2]

Wouldn't it be fun to watch MS and JV in the same equipment before they retire. Before the aging champs retire, F1 should orchastrate the two of them driving for a team like Midland. The interest on the back of the field would match the interest at the front of the field.!!!!

It would never happen as MS has nothing to prove, but it sure would be interesting, and give us something to talk about. On second thought, It certainly would be a marketing success, and seeing what has become of F1 lately anything is possible.

It would indeed be fun (for some of us at least!).

JV would be absolutely no threat to Michael these days

I agree with all you said. I personally would just go further here and say that JV would never have posed an insurmountable threat to MS (or MH for that matter) in the same team.

Btw YHR do you like the (completely accidental, but perfect) iambic hexameter?

[YHR 0]

It would indeed be fun (for some of us at least!).

I agree with all you said. I personally would just go further here and say that JV would never have posed an insurmountable threat to MS (or MH for that matter) in the same team.

Btw YHR do you like the (completely accidental, but perfect) iambic hexameter?

I'm not a English major, and I'd be lying if I said I had any idea what an iambic hexameter consisted of. I'd be less then truthful if I said I cared

[Max Mosley 2]

I'm not a English major, and I'd be lying if I said I had any idea what an iambic hexameter consisted of. I'd be less then truthful if I said I cared

The arts are so under-appreciated, alas... (even if you don't care, its just 6 ti-tum beats per line).

[YHR 0]

The arts are so under-appreciated, alas... (even if you don't care, its just 6 ti-tum beats per line).

Thanks for the enlightenment. The things you can learn on a racing forum.

[Max Mosley 2]

Well it never hurts to think about something else for a (brief) while!

[spitfire 0]

What was that noise... was that DR shooting his mouth off again!

I have heard some pretty strong and reliable rumours that Richards was responsible for the beginnings of the cheating that was exposed this past season at BAR HONDA.

Richards is a F***ing IDIOT!!

Nuf Said!

It also needs to be pointed out that over the last two weeks at Jerez JV had the third fastest time (was it best for V8 runners??) and was almost 2 seconds faster than quick Nick in the same equipment. I know itys only testing and to be fair I am sure the temperature differences played a role in the times but still, JV is quick. I hope he continues to show good form!!

As for richards... well he is a low life with too high an opinion of himself.

Richards is a F***ing IDIOT!!

Nuf Said!

[Senna 0]

I agree with all you said. I personally would just go further here and say that JV would never have posed an insurmountable threat to MS (or MH for that matter) in the same team.

I would also agree with that.