ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Did anyone happen to watch the Socceroos vs Ghana 14 hours ago. Australia dominated most of the match but we were extremely unlikely to only get a draw. On the positive note the Socceroos played several young guys and it looks like the next generation for Australian football will be relatively strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 I can never understand why people outside England prefer to watch the EPL when you can watch the champions league instead, not to mention the Spanish and Italian, and to a lesser extent German leagues, which are at the very least equally good. Why someone without a personal interest would watch Fulham play Manchester City when you can watch Roma play Valencia is beyond me Two weeks till I get back to quality football coverage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 The problem with that, Wez, is that your just spouting media nonsense and jumping on the bandwagon. None of it is actually true and it annoys me that supposedly intelligent people in the know (obviously I don't include you in that ) come out with such rubbish. I'll give you some examples :-Zonal marking was the big thing against Liverpool last year and the media went on constantly about how we conceded from free kicks/corners. Reality? We conceded the least amount from free kicks/corners - 4 all season. Next best team was Chelsea with 5. When Liverpool conceded from a free kick/corner it was a problem with zonal marking and when other teams conceded from a set piece, which they did more than us, it was bad marking. And this is from people supposedly in the know. Nobody cared when we played Gerrard out of position last season when we went on a winning streak and were probably as consistent as any team from I think about November onwards. Suddenly this year it's an issue. Also nobody cared when we rotated the team last season when we were winning - people have short memories in football and most sports, probably, but there are some people who are paid to be 'experts'. When we play Gerrard on the right his personal stats are marginally worse than when he plays in the centre, but when we play him in the centre the team stats are worse. However, when we play Gerrard on the right the team stats are significantly better. Now as far as I know football isn't about 1 person, it's about the team. As I said earlier, anyway, you just worry about your team and we will worry about ours!! I mean, any more of it and I would suspect that you are really obsessed with us!! The only thing that was not mere rubbish or simple drivel in that post was the set piece statistics. Your team lacks depth, and the attacking flair is not present. You are not fast enough on or off the ball. ManUtd went circles aournd you on Old Trafford, and that just emphasised the areas or tactics you where lacking in. No one touch passes, just long balls and confused defensive counterattacking play. You won't win anyhing with that my friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Thanks to our satellite TV in SA I watch the English & Spanish leagues as well as most International & European games. Infact South Africa get more Live EPL games than any country in the world... We have on average 7 live games per weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 I can never understand why people outside England prefer to watch the EPL when you can watch the champions league instead, not to mention the Spanish and Italian, and to a lesser extent German leagues, which are at the very least equally good. Why someone without a personal interest would watch Fulham play Manchester City when you can watch Roma play Valencia is beyond me Two weeks till I get back to quality football coverage The English game is faster, rougher and more entertaining than the ones you have mentioned. Besides, there are a lot of players from all corners of the world in EPL. InSpain there are mainly Spouth Americans, Spanish and Italians. In Italy ist much the same. EPL, has got it all. Thanks to our satellite TV in SA I watch the English & Spanish leagues as well as most International & European games.Infact South Africa get more Live EPL games than any country in the world... We have on average 7 live games per weekend. EPL is hands down the best league in the world, thats why it is also the most popular. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 EPL is hands down the best league in the world, thats why it is also the most popular. Period. Yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 EPL is hands down the best league in the world, thats why it is also the most popular. Period. Its too bad the English national team isnt the best in the world. Well not really. The last thing we all want is a bragging pom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Infact South Africa get more Live EPL games than any country in the world... We have on average 7 live games per weekend. Not sure how many we get in India, but too many, I have lost count of the number of lame matches shown live. The English game is faster, rougher and more entertaining than the ones you have mentioned. Not really, I love the Italian game, and Spain has its entertaining teams too (as does England of course) I generally watch big league matches when I get the chance and champions league I try to watch all the time. Besides, there are a lot of players from all corners of the world in EPL. InSpain there are mainly Spouth Americans, Spanish and Italians. In Italy ist much the same. Don't be ridiculous, there are plenty of players from all over Europe. Let us take one of my favourite clubs, Barcelona. 7 FW Ei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Let us take one of my favourite clubs, Barcelona. I can honestly say they are the best club in the world at the moment (despite their somewhat poor showing thus far in the ECC). Im a fan of theirs, not to the fanatical point that I support Man United but more "just a fan" because of their fantastic football style! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Firstly I dont agree with you...Secondly... Looking at the state your club is in, you need the entire country praying (never mind worrying about them). Thirdly its extreamly difficult to be obsessed with a mid-table team with a negative goal difference who haven't won the league in 17 years... No offense! You don't have to agree with me, but it is 'fact' as you like to keep saying when referring to the table!! None taken! Well you're hardly the most non-biased of fans, especially when it comes to us, so I am not going to lose any sleep over what you think of us - no offence!! The only thing that was not mere rubbish or simple drivel in that post was the set piece statistics.Your team lacks depth, and the attacking flair is not present. You are not fast enough on or off the ball. ManUtd went circles aournd you on Old Trafford, and that just emphasised the areas or tactics you where lacking in. No one touch passes, just long balls and confused defensive counterattacking play. You won't win anyhing with that my friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I am convinced you have actually seen a football match, then we'll talk!! Everything in my post is pure fact - you can check it out if you like, doesn't bother me in the slightest. The fact that you refer to is as pure drivel or rubbish just shows your acute lack of understanding of the game. For example going on your theory that because manure outplayed us then we are a bad team? So, when Houllier was in charge did we have a better or worse team because we beat you virtually every time then? See my point? As I say you concentrate on your own team and we will concentrate on ours. If you're really not bothered about a mediocre, negative, mid-table team then stop being obsessed about us - simple really. You've not heard me carry on about you being beat my Arsenal at home, or Southend for that matter, because I know they are only mere microcosms of the season as a whole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Everything in my post is pure fact That is a matter of opinion my friend. Anyway since you seem perfectly happy with your team mediocre season we will leave it at that... Ctrl & myself were just trying t educate yourself and lend a helping hand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 That is a matter of opinion my friend.Anyway since you seem perfectly happy with your team mediocre season we will leave it at that... Ctrl & myself were just trying t educate yourself and lend a helping hand Nope not opinion, pure fact - I can point you to the guy that has published the stats, if you can stand going to our website, though it is the most visited football website in the World so I believe!! See, you can't actually read either!! Where did I say I was happy with our season so far? In my first reply, did I not say something about not seeing any football so far?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 InSpain there are mainly Spouth Americans, Spanish and Italians. In Italy ist much the same. EPL, has got it all. There you go again, there are many players from all over the world. There are a lot of Spanish Italian and South American players, because they are the best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Nope not opinion, pure fact - I can point you to the guy that has published the stats, if you can stand going to our website, though it is the most visited football website in the World so I believe!! See, you can't actually read either!! Where did I say I was happy with our season so far? In my first reply, did I not say something about not seeing any football so far?? Shame! My previously mentioned stats are the ones champions are decided on BTW... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Shame! My previously mentioned stats are the ones champions are decided on BTW... Champions are decided on a mid-november premiership table?? Come, come, Wez, get a hold of yourself!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Not sure how many we get in India, but too many, I have lost count of the number of lame matches shown live.Not really, I love the Italian game, and Spain has its entertaining teams too (as does England of course) I generally watch big league matches when I get the chance and champions league I try to watch all the time. Don't be ridiculous, there are plenty of players from all over Europe. Let us take one of my favourite clubs, Barcelona. 7 FW Ei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Talking about beating Arsenal? Thats just too rich.When you can get your head out of your own arse, come back and we can talk like grown ups. Yeah, Im quite sure he's maybe watching a different English Premier League to the rest of us... If thats the case I apologise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Funny how Southend was missed there........still my point still stands!! I could have sworn Arsenal were in bad form when you played them, yet they still beat you...hmmmmm. Yes, obviously I'm the one with my head in my arse!!! Yes, I must be watching a different EPL. Anyway, stop being so obsessed by use, geez!! Honestly, if you love us that much just say so!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Whats really funny is how every Man United basher went on about how the League Cup is a pathetic competition and not worth worrying about when United won it last season. And yet when United get knocked out this season while only fielding 2 first team regulars the same bashers go on about the result... Double standards? (For the record I think its a joke of a competition and dont take results in it seriously... this season or last!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Funny how Southend was missed there........still my point still stands!! I could have sworn Arsenal were in bad form when you played them, yet they still beat you...hmmmmm. Yes, obviously I'm the one with my head in my arse!!! Yes, I must be watching a different EPL. Anyway, stop being so obsessed by use, geez!! Honestly, if you love us that much just say so!!! Southend was as big of a fluke as your CL win. The players felt bad, but not even half as bad as when Liverpool lost 2-0 at Old Trafford after we thouroughly made you look foolish. If you saw tha game between ManUtd and Arsenal you know that that was as even as you can get it, the only dofference was a late goal. Can't say that about 3-0 at the Emirates though. Get over it, you will undoubtly be back, but don't expct that to be before 2020. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Southend was as big of a fluke as your CL win. The players felt bad, but not even half as bad as when Liverpool lost 2-0 at Old Trafford after we thouroughly made you look foolish. If you saw tha game between ManUtd and Arsenal you know that that was as even as you can get it, the only dofference was a late goal. Can't say that about 3-0 at the Emirates though. Get over it, you will undoubtly be back, but don't expct that to be before 2020. Funny, Ferguson didn't see it as a fluke, Southend I mean......Do you actually know the difference between home and away games, by the way ?? Yeah, yeah, yeah, honestly I'm listening to you, no really I am!! Go on tell the whole world you love us really!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Funny, Ferguson didn't see it as a fluke, Southend I mean...... United were cr@p and deserved to loose... Our full team on the other hand has won 6 league games in a row, You are right in saying there is a long way to go, But this championship is between Chelski & United! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Funny, Ferguson didn't see it as a fluke, Southend I mean......Do you actually know the difference between home and away games, by the way ?? Yeah, yeah, yeah, honestly I'm listening to you, no really I am!! Go on tell the whole world you love us really!! Did you see the goal? Did you see our squad? Under estimated the opposition, fair enough. The Kop is dying. Not even the scousers want to know of you anymore. Everton is the fastest growing club in that area. What is left for you when the club is sold to Norwegian investors and you face the same faith as Wimbeldon? Thats right, you come to ManUtd to support the real giants of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 Did you see the goal?Did you see our squad? Under estimated the opposition, fair enough. The Kop is dying. Not even the scousers want to know of you anymore. Everton is the fastest growing club in that area. What is left for you when the club is sold to Norwegian investors and you face the same faith as Wimbeldon? Thats right, you come to ManUtd to support the real giants of the game. One is saying you deserved to lose, the other is saying a fluke......hmmmmmm. Cuckooo!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2006 One is saying you deserved to lose, the other is saying a fluke......hmmmmmm.Cuckooo!! Who in their right mind said we deserved to lose? Rooney hit the bar, Ronaldo did the same. Their keeper had the busiest day of his career. OT, which ManUtd shirt are you buying when you come crawling to our team? Let me guess, surely Rooney as he is a fellow scouser. Happy days at Old Trafford! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
