So If Lewis Hamilton Does Become Wdc...

[angie 0]

I hope this won't happen. But if it does, I won't be so downhearted as i'll know fernando contributed to this title with his ability to find the great set-up,which hamilton also copied...Not to mention that having the world champion driving for you adds extra motivation to the team and makes them really believe that they can win -at last.I definitely think that fer's arrival had a huge impact on the team and is one of the reasons why mclaren is doing so well this year.

[Quiet One 15]

I hope this won't happen. But if it does, I won't be so downhearted as i'll know fernando contributed to this title with his ability to find the great set-up,which hamilton also copied...Not to mention that having the world champion driving for you adds extra motivation to the team and makes them really believe that they can win -at last.I definitely think that fer's arrival had a huge impact on the team and is one of the reasons why mclaren is doing so well this year.

Well...it was nice to meet you! I don't think you will be coming back after the angry replies you are going to get for that!

[angie 0]

This is the sad truth in formula 1 at the moment... We saw it with Alonso in France then Massa at Silverstone... Both drivers had one of the quickest cars on the track and yet still weren't able to pass the likes of Bmw & Renault on the track.

To show you what a joke the passing situation has become, Inspite of Ferrari & Mclaren's dual this season, not at any point in the season has a Mclaren overtaken a Ferrari and visa versa!!!

That's true.In previous years, if a driver didn't do so well in qualifying ,he knew that if he had a fast car ,he would stand a good chance of getting a better result.however, now almost everything is decided in qualifying ,which actually ruins the race!And this has become a lot worse this year.And i don't know why...I hope the new rules after 2011 wil give a solution to the problem,although I'm not so optimistic.

[angie 0]

Well...it was nice to meet you! I don't think you will be coming back after the angry replies you are going to get for that!

That was the 1st thing I thought before I started writing,too! But what can I do...This is what I believe and I always try to be honest,even though some times it has bad consequences!

[Autumnpuma 0]

Just my humble opinion, Mike, undoubtably Alonso showed great racecraft to keep Schumi behind him that day, but I do also believe he was in the best car to do it in. That Renault was widely regarded as having the best traction not only off the line, but out of corners too. So, if the corner was a fast one then you lose aero following and if it is a slow corner then the Renault had superior traction out of the corner, which does it make it slightly easier to defend from the car behind, even if the car behind is considerably quicker. If you know that you only have to defend at the end of a straight, rather than from the middle, for example, due to your car's better traction, then you have a much better chance of defending due to the decreased amount of time you have to spend defending.

Now, I don't think Alonso's racecraft in defending has diminished at all, but I think it would be fair to say he hasn't been quite so successful defending even so far this year, as he was when he was in the Renault of the previous years.

The Renault had the best system at the start, but that was a mechanical system that had nothing to do with the electronic TC used in the corners. You're theory sounds good except that we saw during the race Alonso deliberately going slower on exit, forcing Michael to 'choke up' and scrub speed on exit. It was that, as I see it, that kept the faster Michael behind Alonso. Michael did the same thing to Alonso the following year....and I don't think Ferrari suddenly developed a superior TC or that Renault slipped in their TC development. I could be wrong, I suppose but the proof is in watching the televised telemetry. Alonso's normal throttle pattern is to run 100% at entry, coast through the apex, then apply a sudden 50% pressure followed by a very steep increase to 100% at exit. At Imola, Alonso's exit throttle, as I remember it, was more of a steady climb, indicating that he was regulating his exit speed.

[Eric 0]

I hope this won't happen. But if it does, I won't be so downhearted as i'll know fernando contributed to this title with his ability to find the great set-up,which hamilton also copied...Not to mention that having the world champion driving for you adds extra motivation to the team and makes them really believe that they can win -at last.I definitely think that fer's arrival had a huge impact on the team and is one of the reasons why mclaren is doing so well this year.

Uhh. VAMOS NANDO?!

Honestly, I think without Fred, Lewis wouldn't be as good. Lewis was groomed to be an F1 driver, yes, but, without help from the Nandonator, Hammy would not have as good of setups. I find it a shame that someone can actually be in F1 and rely on their teammate for setups. Sharing some data between teammates where each teammate does equal work, good. Fred working hard and then Lewis copying, bad.

-Eric

[Max Mosley 2]

http://www.madowl.co.uk/cartoons/2007/c593.gif

Great comic Kay.

Overall, i believe bridgetone is the main determinant of F1 this year.

Argubly, Ferrari is good on harder tyres as one of the reasons why teams switched to michelin in the past and notably toyota requested bridgetone softer tyres in the begining of 2006 as they couldn't cope with ferrari-spec harder tyres.

Most notably for 2007, mclaren won races on softs (except Malaysia) while ferrari won on hards.

Please comment, thanks!

I must admit I haven't noticed that pattern (because I haven't been paying attention!), but if you're correct in that pattern, then this is a very interesting theory imho. You may well be right.

That was the 1st thing I thought before I started writing,too! But what can I do...This is what I believe and I always try to be honest,even though some times it has bad consequences!

Keep posting your honest thoughts! We need girls who do that.

Uhh. VAMOS NANDO?!

Honestly, I think without Fred, Lewis wouldn't be as good. Lewis was groomed to be an F1 driver, yes, but, without help from the Nandonator, Hammy would not have as good of setups. I find it a shame that someone can actually be in F1 and rely on their teammate for setups. Sharing some data between teammates where each teammate does equal work, good. Fred working hard and then Lewis copying, bad.

-Eric

Yeah I agree 'Nando's helping Lewis a lot. For me it's not fair either, but then the whole of F1 isn't fair for the drivers either. I'm really surprised at all the discussions we have on this topic. The solution seems so straight-forward to me: get rid of the teams, then Mike's definition of best is sensible. Otherwise it makes no sense. But I don't understand why others agree that the cars heavily influence (I think dominate) the WDC but then still claim the WDC is meaningful as a driver comparison.

[Eric 0]

Yeah I agree 'Nando's helping Lewis a lot. For me it's not fair either, but then the whole of F1 isn't fair for the drivers either. I'm really surprised at all the discussions we have on this topic. The solution seems so straight-forward to me: get rid of the teams, then Mike's definition of best is sensible. Otherwise it makes no sense. But I don't understand why others agree that the cars heavily influence (I think dominate) the WDC but then still claim the WDC is meaningful as a driver comparison.

Pure genuis.

NO MORE TEAMS. NO MORE TEAMS. NO MORE TEAMS.

I guess when you do look it at that way, F1 is a bit of a joke. But I think that F1 has been a joke ever since it became a business first, sporting event on the side.

-Eric

[Max Mosley 2]

Yeah, it's what happens to most sports, but imho especially F1 for some reason. I guess it's always easier to fall into this situation when you have a sport so dependent on equipment.

Btw read Eric's posts. They're brilliant.

[Eric 0]

Yeah, it's what happens to most sports, but imho especially F1 for some reason. I guess it's always easier to fall into this situation when you have a sport so dependent on equipment.

Btw read Eric's posts. They're brilliant.

Good catch.

What will I endlessly promote now?? Hmm...I have until the next new user joins to figure it out.

-Eric

[Max Mosley 2]

All credit goes to Kay for telling me. Btw I think her blog might overtake yours in post count if you're not careful.

[Eric 0]

All credit goes to Kay for telling me. Btw I think her blog might overtake yours in post count if you're not careful.

Well, mine will still be the longest strictly motorsport blog! And a brilliant work of brilliant brilliance brilliantly made by a brilliant mind of brilliance possesed by a brilliant person of brilliance.

I guess I will now resort to posting my naked photos, which are great. Click here to see them

(Don't worry, it's safe to look at them)

(No, no one put parental blocks on your computer, I did in fact link you to a McAfee safe image)

[pabloh20 1]

The Renault had the best system at the start, but that was a mechanical system that had nothing to do with the electronic TC used in the corners. You're theory sounds good except that we saw during the race Alonso deliberately going slower on exit, forcing Michael to 'choke up' and scrub speed on exit. It was that, as I see it, that kept the faster Michael behind Alonso. Michael did the same thing to Alonso the following year....and I don't think Ferrari suddenly developed a superior TC or that Renault slipped in their TC development. I could be wrong, I suppose but the proof is in watching the televised telemetry. Alonso's normal throttle pattern is to run 100% at entry, coast through the apex, then apply a sudden 50% pressure followed by a very steep increase to 100% at exit. At Imola, Alonso's exit throttle, as I remember it, was more of a steady climb, indicating that he was regulating his exit speed.

Yes, but they were still widely regarded as having the best traction out of corners too. If it is a slow corner then the mechanical system comes into play too. Are you saying that Michael couldn't work out what Alonso was doing and try to adapt?

[angie 0]

Uhh. VAMOS NANDO?!

Honestly, I think without Fred, Lewis wouldn't be as good. Lewis was groomed to be an F1 driver, yes, but, without help from the Nandonator, Hammy would not have as good of setups. I find it a shame that someone can actually be in F1 and rely on their teammate for setups. Sharing some data between teammates where each teammate does equal work, good. Fred working hard and then Lewis copying, bad.

-Eric

That's what I'm talking about!I never said that lewis isn't talented , but fer's help is very valuable!At silverstone he had a different set-up from fernando and we saw how he did...( he was off pace and asked his crew to make changes to his front wing,thus totally destroying his race. )

[angie 0]

Pure genuis.

NO MORE TEAMS. NO MORE TEAMS. NO MORE TEAMS.

I guess when you do look it at that way, F1 is a bit of a joke. But I think that F1 has been a joke ever since it became a business first, sporting event on the side.

-Eric

I definetely agree with that!Every team should have one driver,so that they can only be devoted to him...And then the drivers would do better if they knew that their team fully supports them and does its best to see them winning.For example, if fernando was at Renault(where they worship him as if he's god) with mclaren's car he would do a lot better!

[Max Mosley 2]

We were thinking about having no teams at all Angie. Are you suggesting all the teams have the same car?

[SuperKimi 0]

*random comic link about Lewis and ITV*

http://www.madowl.co.uk/cartoons/2007/c593.gif

*/random*

Very funny. Brilliantly done.

[angie 0]

We were thinking about having no teams at all Angie. Are you suggesting all the teams have the same car?

I'm not sure about that,but i guess it could happen as long as every team can further develop the car.For example,the engine, the chassis and the tyres could be the same for everybody and then it's up to the team to improve the car's performance aerodynamically.Each team would have one driver ,so they would focus only on his driving style, thus ensuring that the driver feels 100% confident and comfortable with his car.

[mikathegreat2 2]

Steve Rider wouldn't shut his gob talking about it!! He wouldn't even draw breath, which, could be a good thing!

He does do quite a good job, but i'm fed-up of him sucking up to LH every flippin' race!

I agree he may get a corner named after to him if he is really sucsessful.

ITV do every dingle race & will do it untill Hamilton retires or dies!

Yeah I agree 'Nando's helping Lewis a lot. For me it's not fair either, but then the whole of F1 isn't fair for the drivers either. I'm really surprised at all the discussions we have on this topic. The solution seems so straight-forward to me: get rid of the teams, then Mike's definition of best is sensible. Otherwise it makes no sense. But I don't understand why others agree that the cars heavily influence (I think dominate) the WDC but then still claim the WDC is meaningful as a driver comparison.

Not this again! Not having any teams in F1 will take the fun right out of the sport! On the good side, it will give Bernie some serious issues!

[Autumnpuma 0]

Yes, but they were still widely regarded as having the best traction out of corners too. If it is a slow corner then the mechanical system comes into play too. Are you saying that Michael couldn't work out what Alonso was doing and try to adapt?

Yes, just as Fernando couldn't adapt to catch Michael the following year. I don't believe Renault's mechanical system would come into play except at the start.