Sudarshan the shumi fan 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 What do you guys feel about it? Mclaren will escape punishment or will they be excluded for 2 years. It says Ron faces imprisonment. Lets see how to goes. I think Ferrari know they might be excluded , thats the feeling I have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 Welcome back sudarshan, we have various topics discussing this, thus i think no one has replied to this topic.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cristiano84 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 What do you guys feel about it?Mclaren will escape punishment or will they be excluded for 2 years. It says Ron faces imprisonment. Lets see how to goes. I think Ferrari know they might be excluded , thats the feeling I have. McLaren is innocent. If they really wanted to copy the design of the F2007 they might have copied the stolen drawings at thier centre in Woking instead of sending Coughlan to a common fax and copy center. And, if it was the case, Coughlan and Stepney wouldn't have offered themselves to Toyota and Honda... Did Coughlan tell De La Rosa something about Ferrari's setup despite Neale and Dennis told him to stop talking with Stepney after Nigel revealed him of Ferrari's illegal device for Mebourne? This is not Dennis or McLaren's fault! So to me it is fair and square, if McLaren is penalized the sport is dead. If McLaren is excluded, F.1 will collapse and I'll be happy cause it would be the right punishment for FIArrari's arrogance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cristiano84 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 And, anyway, the WMSC has already examinated the McLaren cars at the first hearing and found that no parts of the Ferrari F2007 were copied Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dark rider 13 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 McLaren is innocent. If they really wanted to copy the design of the F2007 they might have copied the stolen drawings at thier centre in Woking instead of sending Coughlan in a common fax center. And, if it was the case, Coughlan and Stepney wouldn't have offered themselves to Toyota and Honda...Did Coughlan tell De La Rosa something about Ferrari's setup despite Neale and Dennis told him to stop talking with Stepney after Nigel revealed him of Ferrari's illegal device for Mebourne? This is not Dennis or McLaren's fault! So to me it is fair and square, if McLaren is penalized the sport is dead. If McLaren is excluded, F.1 will collapse and I'll be happy cause it would be the right punishment for FIArrari's arrogance wat so because MM are an important part of the sport they are above the rules and laws? and like flavio said im sure there are alot of teams out thre not just MM that would have like the information MM had! there should defo be some kind of punishment for them an important member of there team (and this is a team sport) was cought with stolen and confidentual material belong to there main rivals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kati 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 I really don't think it's about copying. It's about spying. If I know everything you're doing, and how you car works, I can make mine do it better... I also want to believe something will actually happen... I don't think it will, seriously, but I want it to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cristiano84 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 So why Spyker and Toyota were not penalized for having drawings from a rival team? What's the problem with McLaren? Is just the fact they are challenging the immense cash-producing machine that Ferrari is for Formula 1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kati 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 Is just the fact they are challenging the immense cash-producing machine that Ferrari is for Formula 1? exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted September 9, 2007 I really don't think it's about copying. It's about spying. If I know everything you're doing, and how you car works, I can make mine do it better... I also want to believe something will actually happen... I don't think it will, seriously, but I want it to. Short and sweet. Too bad people will still not understand. McLaren will get their current points deducted. Max. They won't be banned for next season. And F1 will survive that "catastrophe". Would survive a Ferrari banning, and obviously a Renault, BMW and Williams triple-banning. It survived a 6 car race at Indy, after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2007 Short and sweet. Too bad people will still not understand.McLaren will get their current points deducted. Max. They won't be banned for next season. And F1 will survive that "catastrophe". Would survive a Ferrari banning, and obviously a Renault, BMW and Williams triple-banning. It survived a 6 car race at Indy, after all. My exact thoughts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argento Reloaded 1 Report post Posted September 10, 2007 My exact thoughts... The Fia will find some type of "salomonic" decision; the kind of Andr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted September 10, 2007 I really don't think it's about copying. It's about spying. If I know everything you're doing, and how you car works, I can make mine do it better... I also want to believe something will actually happen... I don't think it will, seriously, but I want it to. I think it's about establishing to what extent Mac knew about Coughlan's bad behaviour, how they acted about it, what they did with any information they gained and how any of that has affected current standings. To put it simply that is. I also wouldn't mind seeing something ACTUALLY HAPPEN in this story apart from the original bad deed, like you I doubt much will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
