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[Furabio]

Here´s a little sketch of how the F1 cars may look next year. There´s still some doubts about the shark fin, but the rest follows the new regukations.



You can find the original in here

[DOF_power]

It's about right, but it's quite hidious .






They should have made it wide and with ground effects.

[DOF_power]

This is much better:

[The Rumble Strip]

To curvy for my liking.

[goferrarigo]

Team Formula One, on Sep 2 2008, 12:09 PM, said:

To curvy for my liking.

I hate the shark fin though in the cars....

[maure]

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Sep 2 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

This is much better:

It is a beauty. Where can I find more pics + info?

[Jez]

Thanks Furabio. It looks interesting. I'm looking forward to the big changes. Can't wait for the first unveilings to commence!

Edited by Jez, 03 September 2008 - 12:29 AM.

[goferrarigo]

Jez, on Sep 2 2008, 07:24 PM, said:

Thanks Furabio. It looks interesting. I'm looking forward to the big changes. Can't wait for the first unveilings to commence!

Yeah i am waiting for that meeting too... They will decide on the Indian Motorsport governing body in that meeting too...

[DOF_power]

maure, on Sep 3 2008, 02:25 AM, said:

It is a beauty. Where can I find more pics + info?

There's only 2 o3 proper pictures of this car on the wohle internet.

Here:

Edited by DOF_Renault_BMW, 03 September 2008 - 10:30 AM.

[The Rumble Strip]

Interested to see if the rules make any big difference to the pecking order.

I suspect not.

[Jez]

Team Formula One, on Sep 4 2008, 04:59 AM, said:

Interested to see if the rules make any big difference to the pecking order.

I suspect not.

I'm hoping the rule changes shuffles things up a bit. It'd be healthy for the sport if it did. I'd like to see Williams competitive again.

[Jez]

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Sep 3 2008, 08:28 PM, said:

There's only 2 o3 proper pictures of this car on the wohle internet.

Here:

What is it DOF? What racing series is it for?

[goferrarigo]

Jez, on Sep 3 2008, 08:02 PM, said:

What is it DOF? What racing series is it for?

The Formula Nippon...

check this thread where DOF first posted the pics: http://www.totalf1.c...showtopic=10302

[Boily]

From the pix shown it looks as tho the "Zero" keel will be lost and Indy cars are coming to F1 .

[mikathegreat2]

I think's way too narrow & quite ugly! I'll have to wait till Ferrari release their prototype to make it a bit more sexier!

[DOF_power]

mikathegreat2, on Sep 4 2008, 07:32 PM, said:

I think's way too narrow & quite ugly!

Me too, they should have made it wider with more asymmetrical front-rear tires like in the good all days.

[Furabio]

It´s the rear wing for 2009...in Brasil we say that kind of thing is uglier than beating your own mother.

[The Rumble Strip]

Horrible.

[F1 FANatic]

the regulations make the front wing bigger and the rear wing smaller, the front wing will acutally produce more DF then it does this year, so in the end all we get are ridiculously oversteery cars that are nervous under braking. Hmm... where have we seen that problem before? Ok, true the regulations did change something, the cars are going to be oversteering into corners not understeering.

Also, I read a great article in Racecar Engineering or some magazine like that and it pointed out that the FIA did not restrict winglets and such inside or over the nose cone, so things like BMW's cowboy horns and Ferrari's nose cone thingymagig are still legal

also, barge boards have not been removed, or have the shield things next to the side pods. the only real things removed are the viking horns, chimneys, flip ups andthose things the teams have like ferrari does the things on the side between the tyres and the side pods that the mechanics put tennis balls on so they dont get cut

[The Rumble Strip]

I suppose the wing may look better on a 2009 car.

[DOF_power]

F1 FANatic, on Sep 18 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

the regulations make the front wing bigger and the rear wing smaller, the front wing will acutally produce more DF then it does this year, so in the end all we get are ridiculously oversteery cars that are nervous under braking. Hmm... where have we seen that problem before? Ok, true the regulations did change something, the cars are going to be oversteering into corners not understeering.

Also, I read a great article in Racecar Engineering or some magazine like that and it pointed out that the FIA did not restrict winglets and such inside or over the nose cone, so things like BMW's cowboy horns and Ferrari's nose cone thingymagig are still legal

also, barge boards have not been removed, or have the shield things next to the side pods. the only real things removed are the viking horns, chimneys, flip ups andthose things the teams have like ferrari does the things on the side between the tyres and the side pods that the mechanics put tennis balls on so they dont get cut

Well the cars today get understeer at high speeds (downforce mode) and oversteer at low speeds (mechanical mode).
The late 80s/early 90s where understeer at low speeds (due to big fat rear slicks and wide track) and neutral/oversteer at high speeds.

[mikathegreat2]

That rear wing is ugly, & it looks like a very tall aerial on the on-board camera or whatever it is!

[Jez]

Team Formula One, on Sep 20 2008, 04:46 AM, said:

I suppose the wing may look better on a 2009 car.

I hope you're right. It looks like a remote controled toy at the moment!

[Max Mosley]

Furabio, on Sep 18 2008, 03:10 AM, said:

It´s the rear wing for 2009...in Brasil we say that kind of thing is uglier than beating your own mother.

God that is fugly!

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Sep 20 2008, 12:18 PM, said:

Well the cars today get understeer at high speeds (downforce mode) and oversteer at low speeds (mechanical mode).
The late 80s/early 90s where understeer at low speeds (due to big fat rear slicks and wide track) and neutral/oversteer at high speeds.

Good answer to F1_Fanatic's questions, which had me puzzled too.  Your Formula Nippon racer is nice, but surely it's severely lacking in innovation for you?

[DOF_power]

It lacks active suspensions, movable wings, active differentials, 4 wheels steering, TC-LC, ABS, electro-magnetic valves, the V10 layout, turbos, KERS, a small electric engine or 2, beryllium calipers, weight jackers.

Edited by DOF_Renault_BMW, 23 September 2008 - 06:51 AM.

[cavallino]

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Sep 23 2008, 03:06 AM, said:

It lack active suspensions, movable wings, active differentials, 4 wheels steering, TC-LC, ABS, electro-magnetic valves, the V10 layout, turbos, KERS, a small electric engine or 2, beryllium calipers.

Did you get turned on as you wrote those big words? I have the hots for you just reading them.

[Quiet One]

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Sep 22 2008, 02:06 PM, said:

It lack active suspensions, movable wings, active differentials, 4 wheels steering, TC-LC, ABS, electro-magnetic valves, the V10 layout, turbos, KERS, a small electric engine or 2, beryllium calipers.

No Mp3 player, either?

[F1 FANatic]

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Sep 22 2008, 10:06 AM, said:

It lack active suspensions, movable wings, active differentials, 4 wheels steering, TC-LC, ABS, electro-magnetic valves, the V10 layout, turbos, KERS, a small electric engine or 2, beryllium calipers.

4 wheel steering is completely useless, both Patrese and Schumacher said it was pretty much useless. It did nothing for lap times and only made the car feel different. Patrese said he didn't like the feel and Schumi said felt different but it didn't change the line he was using. I do agree with you on the fact that today's cares are lacking pretty much every thing else on that list but I think 4WS is pretty much useless I think. Its useful in monster trucks though

[DOF_power]

Quiet One, on Sep 23 2008, 03:35 AM, said:

No Mp3 player, either?

What for ?!
The engine makes enough music.

[DOF_power]

F1 FANatic, on Sep 23 2008, 04:49 AM, said:

4 wheel steering is completely useless, both Patrese and Schumacher said it was pretty much useless. It did nothing for lap times and only made the car feel different. Patrese said he didn't like the feel and Schumi said felt different but it didn't change the line he was using. I do agree with you on the fact that today's cares are lacking pretty much every thing else on that list but I think 4WS is pretty much useless I think. Its useful in monster trucks though

They didn't have active differentials and fiddle braking when they used it.