Edited by LabradoRacer, 22 June 2012 - 02:31 PM.
Has Hamilton Become As Good As Alonso?
#61
Posted 22 June 2012 - 02:29 PM
#62
Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:17 PM
LabradoRacer, on 22 June 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
#63
Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:19 PM
AleHop, on 22 June 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:
and i do admit he's in the top 3
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
#64
Posted 22 June 2012 - 06:34 PM
LabradoRacer, on 22 June 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:
Say with me: Alonso is NÚMERO UNO!!!
Say it out loud three times and you'll see the light.
Fray Luis de León said:
Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."
#65
Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:07 PM
Massa, on 21 June 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:
Click "Gilles V." in the black bar up at the top.
Click "My Settings" in the menu.
Click "Display Name" in the sidebar and fill it out.
Note that you will still use "Gilles V." to log in, regardless of your display name.
Thank you, but I do not have the "display name" option.
"He's different from the rest of us, on a separate level ..."
Jacques Laffite
#66
Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:11 PM
BradSpeedMan, on 21 June 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:
Maybe we need more cucumbers in the road so Vettel can ride OVER them.
Gilles V, yes, please change your name, it pains me to write your name and think of the remembrance of Giles... Please bru, I beg u...
Well, will you ask Alonso to change his name? He also thinks that Vettel is going to get better. And it is Gilles, with two l's. And for you it is Mr. Gilles.
"He's different from the rest of us, on a separate level ..."
Jacques Laffite
#67
Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:36 PM
Gilles V., on 22 June 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:
Fray Luis de León said:
Tradition has it that he began his lecture the first day after returning from four years' imprisonment with the words "as we were saying yesterday..."
#68
Posted 22 June 2012 - 11:16 PM
In the strongest man, there's a child so weak.
In the whole wide world, there's no magic place.
So you might as well rise, put on your bravest face.
Though we might have precious little...
It's still precious.
Rush - Bravest Face
#69
Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:00 AM
Is Hammy as good as Alonso - how do you define "good"? Hammy has always been a bit more edgy but Alonso manages to wring the best out of a sometimes indifferent car. Alonso is as Schumacher was.
Button has got the capability but I think has been unsettled by Hammy's new found form and just doesn't seem comfy in the car.
Vettel, I dunno. Unpopular for me to say, but he just doesn't grab me. I know he's fast but I can't help think Newey plays a big role in this. I'd love to see him in a Ferrari or Mercedes to see how fast he really is and whether he can wring the neck of a not-top-of-the-pile car.
The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, where the hell is the ceiling?
I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.
#70
Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:02 AM
HandyNZL, on 21 June 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:
Sadly the chimp from which her replacement brain came was a Benobo and if you watch enough Attenborough documentaries, you'll know that they spend most of their time doing one thing (and that's not counting!!!)
The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, where the hell is the ceiling?
I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.
#71
Posted 23 June 2012 - 02:01 PM
Gilles V., on 22 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
#73
Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:36 PM
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer, on 23 June 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:
Is Hammy as good as Alonso - how do you define "good"? Hammy has always been a bit more edgy but Alonso manages to wring the best out of a sometimes indifferent car. Alonso is as Schumacher was.
Button has got the capability but I think has been unsettled by Hammy's new found form and just doesn't seem comfy in the car.
Vettel, I dunno. Unpopular for me to say, but he just doesn't grab me. I know he's fast but I can't help think Newey plays a big role in this. I'd love to see him in a Ferrari or Mercedes to see how fast he really is and whether he can wring the neck of a not-top-of-the-pile car.
By "as good as Alonso" I mean has he become the best yet. I do not think he is ther yet, but if he wins the title this year... As for Vettel, I agree with Alonso that he can still improve. He has had the best car, but the race is still close and he might not have the best car for the remainder of the season. So if he wins the title with a par car or a in a car a little slower than the top car, he will also have to be consider for the top spot IMO.
Should be a dandy tomorrow!
#74
Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:43 PM
After the quali, I see Nico winning the race with Gros Jean second. Have a good one!
#75
Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:32 AM
Jean-Pierre, on 23 June 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
#76
Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:43 AM
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer, on 23 June 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:
#77
Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:05 PM
Quiet One, on 14 June 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:
And, frankly, this is one of "those" seasons. Winning might be sweet, but he can still hope for next time. So even if he doesn't win the WDC and being as competitive as he is, he seems to still be pretty much enjoying driving his nuts off in a hell of a season.
Fortes Fortuna Juvat, and this season seems to prove just so.
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
#78
Posted 24 June 2012 - 05:55 PM
Edited by Rainmaster, 24 June 2012 - 05:55 PM.
#79
Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:06 PM
#80
Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:30 PM
#81
Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:10 PM
In some ways, I wish they'd rebroadcast the races, or even sell them for a decent price through F1's website on iTunes or something, with the entire race just following one driver (not necessarily on-board; I mean, all cameras are picking up a lot of stuff we never see). I'd love to see everything Alonso did to get to first, not just everything I got to see in a ninety minute broadcast, roughly thirty minutes of which were advertisements/in-broadcast promotions/music video bumpers, covering a twenty-three car field. I know FOM never would, and don't need to, but I'm not sure it would be the worst idea to pick one driver each race who had a compelling journey (of course, five or six drivers did this time around, but a normal race, you usually have one huge stand-out), use footage they already have recorded, and produce that driver's entire race in something you could sell to all you kids with your gizmos and gadgets and contraptions and things.
I realize this post was dumb and stupid because it has no relevance to reality but it's just a passing thought. I want to see the magic and obviously you can't get everything on the broadcast (FOM do an awesome job producing races, I mean that sincerely, watch any other series and you realize how good F1's coverage is...if there's nothing happening with the "stars" or the leader, they show something else, they're really tremendous producers and directors and all that...I love it) and you can't always forecast what will be more significant at the end of the race, showing one battle or another (i.e. Alonso passing to get into P8 or 9 on the start might not seem as important when it happens as Vettel pulling away and Grosjean and Kobayashi getting up, and obviously, they showed the right thing at the time, which was the leaders and Grosjean and all them).
I want to see what I didn't see now.
Of course watching the race again would show me even more because I'm too dense to pick up all of it as it is, but anyway...this is all useless crap that will never happen.
#82
Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:43 PM
I don't know if they still publish that for every season. (I kinda...errr....accidentally downloaded a few of those from a torrent which of course was never my intention) :whistle:
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
#84
Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:58 AM
It's not very smart to compare a genious with latin idiot that only rely on his dirty play and his luck (which unfortunately demonstrates to be big one).
Edited by turbokick, 18 September 2012 - 11:52 AM.
#85
Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:30 AM
turbokick, on 25 June 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:
It's not very smart to compare a genious with latin swindler that only rely on his dirty play and his luck (which unfortunately demonstrates to be big one).
This is what happens when illiteracy and stupidity crash into the language barrier..

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#87
Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:10 AM
dribbler, on 25 June 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:
Well, I think that insulting you don't demonstrate to be quite well-bred ang intelligent and yes, I'm not an Englishman and my english is far from beeing good, but this is not an English grammar forum, but a Formula 1 dedicated one, if you've got something to say to disprove my thesis - submit it, if the only thing you can offer is your hostility and bad manners then your utility and motoring knowledge is equal to 0 (I guess your intelligency level also) and you can keep them to yourself.
Maybe it's not the truth that Hamilton receives an unfair treat, and what happend yesterday in your opinion is something quite normal - the ¨job¨ McLaren's crew did for Hamilton, the more than 10 seconds lost, the wasted 2 posicion (he entered in the boxes 2 and returned to the race 8), your favourite Alonso who entered in boxes 7 and went out 3, I guess in your opinion this is Alonso's ¨great¨ driving, and the brightness of his talent...I think it's pointless to ask you about the ¨racing accident¨ that Hamilton suffered in the final laps caused by other ¨great¨ talent - Maldonado, and how many ¨racing accidents¨ has suffered Hamilton only in the last two years and where he could be without such ¨accidents¨ (that always happen to him).
And what to say about Alonso's finishing of yesterday's race, without taking his car in the boxes...For the same thing Hamilton was punished some weeks ago in a quite severe way (losing 15 posicions, inspite of winning the pole position), but I think all these things doesn't matter for you, the important thing for you is Alonso wins (by all means) and my english. What a pity...
Edited by turbokick, 25 June 2012 - 07:25 PM.
#88
Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:21 AM
turbokick, on 25 June 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:
Maybe it's not the truth that Hamilton receives an unfair treat, and what happend yesterday in your opinion is something quite normal - the ¨job¨ McLaren's crew did for Hamilton, the more than 10 seconds lost, the wasted 2 posicion (he entered 2 and returned to the race 8), your favourite Alonso that entered in boxes 7 and went out 3, I guess in your opinion this is Alonso's ¨great¨ driving, and the brightness of his talent...I think it's pointless to ask you about the ¨driving accident¨ that Hamilton suffered in the final laps caused by other ¨great¨ talent - Maldonado, and how many ¨driving accidents¨ has suffered Hamilton only in the last two years and where he could be without such ¨accidents¨ (that always happen to him).
And what to say about Alonso's finishing of yesterday's race, without taking his car in the boxes, for almost the same thing Hamilton was punished some weeks ago, but I think all these things doesn't matter for you, the important thing for you is Alonso wins (by all means) and my english. What a pity...
“We keep on working, we do our thing,” Vettel shouts over the team radio, “We are who we are!”
"Vettel is a champion. That’s not referring to his achievements, but rather to his approach to everything he does. He wins. All the time. His preparation is meticulous, his attention to detail reminiscent of Michael Schumacher at his peak, and his performance on the track is almost always flawless. Vettel is capable only of domination. He knows no other way... Vettel is not in Formula One to be liked. He is there to win. And in the words of Ayrton Senna, perhaps the greatest of all Formula One drivers, “Nice men don’t win.”"
Chris Cameron-Dow
#90
Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:21 AM
Clueless, but fascinating.
Welcome aboard Turbokick, you might have guessed by now that your views and mine will probably not be compatible.
"Great drivers are the ones who win the races they're not supposed to" - K.Chandhok
"On the rare occasions that I play a racing game I often think ‘you know what this needs? A boss battle or two.’ A Formula One game in which, suddenly, everybody else has a monster truck and their sole desire is to squash you. A street racing game with a tank or two blowing the roads and buildings to bits. A Nascar game with a track that occasionally bends to the right" (Adam Smith - RPS)
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