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[BradSpeedMan]

freaky2, on 25 November 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Bullets for the contenders, or...?

Hey, I bet u enjoyed Kimi's off-track shenanigans lol...I was thinking off you when that happened

[Massa]

BradSpeedMan, on 25 November 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

I very much doubt it Eric, Mclaren have to come up with a bullet for Button to win it

Didn't mean they'd win the title; I still favor Vettel there.  Just meant I think next year won't be so up and down.  I can see a steady second or third in the WDC for Button.

[pabloh20]

I guess we shouldn't have expected much else in the final race of this roller coaster season

Good end to a good season.

[BradSpeedMan]

To think that the rainy conditions actually helped Vettel, because in the drear conditions he couldn't manage to come up to speed as the damaged to his car actually started to show!

Edited by BradSpeedMan, 25 November 2012 - 07:55 PM.

[pabloh20]

BradSpeedMan, on 25 November 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

To think that the rainy conditions actually helped Vettel, because in the drear conditions he couldn't manage to come up to speed as the damaged he incurred started to show!

Yes, I suppose he was a bit fortunate in that sense, on a normal dry track with that damage on his car would have probably cost him the title today.

[freaky2]

BradSpeedMan, on 25 November 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Hey, I bet u enjoyed Kimi's off-track shenanigans lol...I was thinking off you when that happened

Well, at least it made me remember he was still there. A race to forget for him. Or maybe he had already forgotten it and looked forward to the holidays?

[BradSpeedMan]

pabloh20, on 25 November 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Yes, I suppose he was a bit fortunate in that sense, on a normal dry track with that damage on his car would have probably cost him the title today.

Yes he was, but I'm actually referring to the fact that Alonso and Alonso enthusiasts was wishing for rain so Seb "would" underperform or drive so bad to finish out of the points...Instead it really helped him...

[BradSpeedMan]

freaky2, on 25 November 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Well, at least it made me remember he was still there. A race to forget for him. Or maybe he had already forgotten it and looked forward to the holidays?

Or That his week-long partying just caught up with him lol

[pabloh20]

BradSpeedMan, on 25 November 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Yes he was, but I'm actually referring to the fact that Alonso and Alonso enthusiasts was wishing for rain so Seb "would" underperform or drive so bad to finish out of the points...Instead it really helped him...

Well, I am not too sure that is what they were expecting in that sense, I would have thought their thinking would be more along the lines of there is more chance of a mistake taking you right out in the wet, or indeed the chances of getting taken out are higher than in the dry.  And so it nearly proved today.  However, in a dry race, not only was there less chance of Vettel being out of the points, although he could still make a mistake or get taken out, but Alonso would have struggled to get further up the grid in the dry too.

[brambilla]

As I saw this Picture on the Beeb, I couldnt help but chuckle at the recollection of how the movie "Inglorious Bastrerds" highlighted the difference between how Germans and Brits hold up three fingers :

[JHS18]

Glad to be proven completely wrong for the second race in a row.

Wow. Just wow. I don't thing words do justice to this race. I don't things words do justice to this season. Just incredible, a classic year without doubt.

So many good races. I think the only races that weren't that great were Korea and India. Every other race had something in it that you can look back on and remember, be it battles for victory, a certain overtake, a first time winner, a new visitor to the podium...you could go on.

When Michael announced his retirement I didn't want the 2013 season to come around too quickly. Now I can't wait for it to start again.

[Ikyrotz]

Kimi on his off-track excursion:


"I went off at the last corner on lap 52 as I couldn't see well with my visor being dirty and fogged up. Where I went off you can get back on the track by going through the support race pitlane, but you have to go through a gate. I know this as I did the same thing in 2001 and the gate was open that year. Somebody closed it this time. Next year I'll make sure it's open again..."

[Rainmaster]

BradSpeedMan, on 25 November 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Yes he was, but I'm actually referring to the fact that Alonso and Alonso enthusiasts was wishing for rain so Seb "would" underperform or drive so bad to finish out of the points...Instead it really helped him...

What's more interesting is that Vettel felt the need to comment after the race on those assertions some people had made (that rain would be terrible for him). Certainly, he seems very aware of a lot of the mind games that different drivers have been playing towards the end of this championship (mainly Alonso and Hammy). He said he was praying for more rain during the race..

Edited by Rainmaster, 25 November 2012 - 09:32 PM.

[BradSpeedMan]

Ikyrotz, on 25 November 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Kimi on his off-track excursion:


"I went off at the last corner on lap 52 as I couldn't see well with my visor being dirty and fogged up. Where I went off you can get back on the track by going through the support race pitlane, but you have to go through a gate. I know this as I did the same thing in 2001 and the gate was open that year. Somebody closed it this time. Next year I'll make sure it's open again..."

Lol...good one!

[JHS18]

[Jean Todt]

Well done Vettel, well done Redbull. They really deserved it, Redbull deserves it for the hardwork they put in to develop the car, and Vettel for doing the rest of the job very well....Just 25!
Well done...no matter what people say, Vettel, you deserve it!
Have a good winter break every one....
Cheers.

[Ikyrotz]

JHS18, on 25 November 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

Lol, gotta say, that's a good one

[BradSpeedMan]

Ikyrotz, on 25 November 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

Lol, gotta say, that's a good one

Eish, they're going to grill Kimi for that one lol

[Ikyrotz]

BradSpeedMan, on 25 November 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

Eish, they're going to grill Kimi for that one lol

When you can't laugh at your favorite driver, you're taking things too seriously...

[Massa]

Jean Todt, on 25 November 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Have a good winter break every one....

Same to you.

[AleHop]

Congratulations to Vettel and the true vettelists. Congratulations to the true F1 fans in this forum for a fantastic season. Let's hope we can live another very good season next year.

The race was a rollercoaster of emotions as it's been this season for the most part. Vettel could have lost the title himself when he crashed into Senna but he recovered from that and Alonso never had the pace to fight for the lead.

Great race by Button, Hamilton Hulkenberg... Massa's race was quite good too, he'll have a chance vs. ALO if he drives like this from the start in 2013.

My sincere commiserations to the forum rats.

[LabradoRacer]

Wow, Interlagos delivered  and how!! I was tense till the chequered flag was waved.

Was shocked when Vettel was punted, but luckily he got an immediate slice of luck in that the rest of the grid didn't take him out. Full marks to him for clawing back. 25, and a 3-time winner. Wouldn't mind his breaking Schumi's records.

Alonso did well to put his car in a position to capitalise on others' misfortunes (as usual), but it wasn't enough. Still, he did well to take it down to the wire.

Lewis was plain unlucky. I'm pretty sure Jenson's very relieved that the former's no longer in the team.

Happy to see Schumi finish in the points. He acquitted himself decently. Nice of him to move aside for Seb. The moment where he & Seb hugged each other & chatted a bit - it seemed like Schumi told the latter to carry on the baton from him.

A minor gripe: Wish my net connection hadn't conked out just before the race. I was dying to yap with you guys.

[LabradoRacer]

Also, I must add that Alonso handled his defeat nicely. He was a bit stunned for a few moments, but quickly dealt it with grace.

Oh, and happy that Felipe finished on the podium. If he's rediscovered his mojo, Alonso won't have it so easy next year.

[LabradoRacer]

LabradoRacer, on 30 July 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

I believe Alonso will at best lose the WDC by a narrow margin.

Wow, I am clairvoyant!

[Peeweev]

Ikyrotz, on 25 November 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Kimi on his off-track excursion:


"I went off at the last corner on lap 52 as I couldn't see well with my visor being dirty and fogged up. Where I went off you can get back on the track by going through the support race pitlane, but you have to go through a gate. I know this as I did the same thing in 2001 and the gate was open that year. Somebody closed it this time. Next year I'll make sure it's open again..."

A great moment in any drivers career. Maybe he forgot which sport he was in?

pabloh20, on 25 November 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Yes, I suppose he was a bit fortunate in that sense, on a normal dry track with that damage on his car would have probably cost him the title today.

I must say that whilst there has been some good driving from Vettel this year, and awsome design work from the team, Lucky is the word i would use to describe his 3rd championship. Brazil summed it up for me for him. Should have had a drive through for causing a crash in turn 4 on 1st lap, and on sky we saw footage of him overtaking Kob under yellow flags ... not sure if that was sorted out or not though. I think I will look into the "luck" this season and see if it is just my perception or if he had more faverable luck this year.

[HandyNZL]

LabradoRacer, on 26 November 2012 - 06:10 AM, said:

Also, I must add that Alonso handled his defeat nicely. He was a bit stunned for a few moments, but quickly dealt it with grace.

Oh, and happy that Felipe finished on the podium. If he's rediscovered his mojo, Alonso won't have it so easy next year.

Wellll....a little debatable now...(then again it depends on which way you want to spin the story)...saying he only lost because of Seb not getting a penalty and because of Grosjean crashing into him at Spa.  But, the facts say that Alonso had two non-scoring races and Vettel had three non-scoring...

[HandyNZL]

Peeweev, on 26 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

A great moment in any drivers career. Maybe he forgot which sport he was in?




I must say that whilst there has been some good driving from Vettel this year, and awsome design work from the team, Lucky is the word i would use to describe his 3rd championship. Brazil summed it up for me for him. Should have had a drive through for causing a crash in turn 4 on 1st lap, and on sky we saw footage of him overtaking Kob under yellow flags ... not sure if that was sorted out or not though. I think I will look into the "luck" this season and see if it is just my perception or if he had more faverable luck this year.

One, there is no such thing as luck.

Two, the flag also had, drum roll please, red stripes on it.  This means debris on track (not oil on track as some people think).  You can pass with this flag flown at a marshal point.

[LabradoRacer]

HandyNZL, on 26 November 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

Wellll....a little debatable now...(then again it depends on which way you want to spin the story)...saying he only lost because of Seb not getting a penalty and because of Grosjean crashing into him at Spa.  But, the facts say that Alonso had two non-scoring races and Vettel had three non-scoring...

Haha, clicked on the wrong quote button?

[HandyNZL]

Nope...was referring to your first line of that post

[LabradoRacer]

HandyNZL, on 26 November 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

Nope...was referring to your first line of that post

My bad, yes. You're right. Just read about Alonso's lament about Seb "not getting punished". Seems strange to say this, given how composed he was on the podium. Anyhow, he himself should shoulder the blame for the WDC loss. The DNF in Japan was of his own making.