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#1 monza gorilla

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Posted 09 December 2006 - 06:54 PM

Can you imagine this sort of thing happening these days?


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Posted 09 December 2006 - 06:58 PM

Ah, the good old days when people did what they wanted without regards to 'political correctness'. I'm fortunate to remember those days................
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Posted 10 December 2006 - 01:20 AM

:lol: that was rather amusing


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Posted 10 December 2006 - 10:28 PM

It sad to think we will never have another driver like James Hunt.
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 02:45 AM

how much I'd love to live those days, Im so sorry I'm this young

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Posted 11 December 2006 - 06:05 AM

View Postaussief1, on Dec 10 2006, 02:28 PM, said:

It sad to think we will never have another driver like James Hunt.

People look at Hunt and smile and say 'we need that individual spirit back again' then when we get a few genuine characters on the grid, we throw tomatoes at them. Montoya, JV, Irvine and Alonso to name a few.....

View PostAutumnpuma, on Dec 9 2006, 10:58 AM, said:

Ah, the good old days when people did what they wanted without regards to 'political correctness'. I'm fortunate to remember those days................

I must clarify myself here. I didn't mean that I remembered Hunt. I don't. I meant that I'm just old enough to remember a world without the term 'political correctness' and feel luck for myself (it provides perspective) and sorry for my daughters at the same time...

I also should say that a jaunt over to Monza's blog to read his 'Demolition Man' entry is in order for anyone intrigued by this topic....

Edited by Autumnpuma, 11 December 2006 - 06:09 AM.

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Posted 11 December 2006 - 11:34 AM

Speaking of James Hunt, I would strongly recommend reading the story in the November issue of F1 Racing (if you can still get your hands on it) the story recaps the events that where the 1976 Japanes GP at Fuji where Hunt claims the 1976 WDC in dramatic fashion.

Some of the more mature members might remember seeing the race live on TV even!!!!

Edited by aussief1, 11 December 2006 - 11:35 AM.

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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 02:19 PM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Dec 11 2006, 03:05 AM, said:

People look at Hunt and smile and say 'we need that individual spirit back again' then when we get a few genuine characters on the grid, we throw tomatoes at them. Montoya, JV, Irvine and Alonso to name a few.....
I must clarify myself here. I didn't mean that I remembered Hunt. I don't. I meant that I'm just old enough to remember a world without the term 'political correctness' and feel luck for myself (it provides perspective) and sorry for my daughters at the same time...

I also should say that a jaunt over to Monza's blog to read his 'Demolition Man' entry is in order for anyone intrigued by this topic....

You dont have to be so old to be so wise! I agree with you Puma! Once Bernie said somthing like he never told a driver what he couldn´t say. And I believe him. And i believe he told many times many driver what they must say... But I think talking is part of the F1 show and if the stars doesn´t speak their minds who wants to listen them? I prefer 1 fat Montoya, or DC and JV to a political correct fast child.
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 02:31 PM

View Postaussief1, on Dec 11 2006, 11:34 AM, said:

Some of the more mature members might remember seeing the race live on TV even!!!!
That'll be me, then. :D
I highly recommend his biography, by Gerald Donaldson, even if it does gloss over some of the worst times. Great photos, quotes and anecdotes.
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 09:36 PM

View Postmonza gorilla, on Dec 12 2006, 12:31 AM, said:

That'll be me, then. :D
I highly recommend his biography, by Gerald Donaldson, even if it does gloss over some of the worst times. Great photos, quotes and anecdotes.

Cheers MG, I'll see if I can track it down :D
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"Giancarlo, you are still two seconds a lap slower than Fernando, this cannot be possible you have the same fuel load, I know you have some understeer but you cannot be two seconds slower, COME ON"!!!! - Alan Permane, Fisichella�s race engineer, 2006 Australian Grand Prix
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Posted 12 December 2006 - 05:42 AM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Dec 10 2006, 10:05 PM, said:

People look at Hunt and smile and say 'we need that individual spirit back again' then when we get a few genuine characters on the grid, we throw tomatoes at them. Montoya, JV, Irvine and Alonso to name a few.....
I must clarify myself here. I didn't mean that I remembered Hunt. I don't. I meant that I'm just old enough to remember a world without the term 'political correctness' and feel luck for myself (it provides perspective) and sorry for my daughters at the same time...

I also should say that a jaunt over to Monza's blog to read his 'Demolition Man' entry is in order for anyone intrigued by this topic....
there is a difference though between calling your team, pretty much in essence, uninterested in the sport and bad at doing their jobs because you cant win and just telling it like it is on track.
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The Masters have returned.
"People were being killed left, right and center back then," [Phil Hill] says. "I became hyper-sensitive to the danger, and wasn't sure that I wasn't going to kill myself. As a result, racing brought out the worst in me. Without it, I don't know what kind of person I might have become. But I'm not sure I liked the person I did become, because I was selfish, irritable and defensive."

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 06:18 AM

View PostF1 FANatic, on Dec 11 2006, 09:42 PM, said:

there is a difference though between calling your team, pretty much in essence, uninterested in the sport and bad at doing their jobs because you cant win and just telling it like it is on track.

Hmmm...do you have tomato juice on your hands?
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The only true sports are motor racing and mountain climbing; everything else is just a game.

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 09:59 AM

View Postmonza gorilla, on Dec 9 2006, 01:54 PM, said:

Can you imagine this sort of thing happening these days?

Here is your answer from Jean Todd

Todt calls on Raikkonen to be discrete

Jean Todt says he is not overly concerned that new acquisition Kimi Raikkonen, to replace Michael Schumacher from 2007, is fond of an alcoholic beverage or two.

Ferrari's CEO and temporary Team Principal, however, suggested to the 27-year-old Finn that his tolerance could run dry if he continues to be a drunken regular on the tabloid front pages.

"If from time to time he wants to have some drinks with his friends," Todt told the French daily newspaper Le Figaro, "We will ask him kindly to do so with discretion."  

Generally, Todt is excited by Raikkonen's arrival at the Prancing Horse, and he denied that Schumacher's withdrawal means that the term 'dream team' should no longer be used.

Referring to Raikkonen, he insisted: "The boy has talent, he deals with defeat with dignity and does not go around talking too much or complaining."

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I think that if he is doing a good job driving he won't tell him anything about that, but if he is getting drunk and not driving well, then he will do what he says here.
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I just always end up disagreeing with you guys because of all the huge exaggerations, myths, theories & unjustified statements

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I never go with expectations, I go with a target. That is to be at the front, and the ultimate aim to win, which is the mentality I have always gone racing with.
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Posted 13 December 2006 - 08:17 AM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Dec 11 2006, 08:05 AM, said:

People look at Hunt and smile and say 'we need that individual spirit back again' then when we get a few genuine characters on the grid, we throw tomatoes at them. Montoya, JV, Irvine and Alonso to name a few.....
You are 100% correct! I enjoyed all the above mentioned drivers and thought they were all good for the sport!
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 03:23 PM

View PostAutumnpuma, on Dec 11 2006, 10:18 PM, said:

Hmmm...do you have tomato juice on your hands?
i don't throw tomatoes, if anything, i throw stones.... really BIG stones, and maybe a stick  :lol:
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 09:32 PM

I have never seen this vid before...so much happening in that race, and so cool to hear Keke talk!  :clap3:


http://b.f1-facts.com/ul/a/4 (these are cool, let´s go back)
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