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[cristiano84]

Sir Jackie Stewart has claimed world motorsport bosses are biased towards Ferrari in the McLaren 'spygate' row.
McLaren go before the World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Thursday amid claims that new evidence could lead to Ron Dennis's team being punished.

But Stewart accused F1's governing body of mounting a "witch-hunt" against Dennis which would backfire on them.

"It seems some of the most powerful people (in F1) are more aligned to Ferrari than anybody else," he said.

"The FIA have historically been very close to Ferrari, closer to them than anyone else.

"There are more Ferrari representatives on the World Council than anybody else."

  
There's been a transfer of information going on since 1950, when modern Formula One began

Sir Jackie Stewart  

Ferrari have accused McLaren of benefiting from a 780-page dossier of information sent by former performance director Nigel Stepney to McLaren's now-suspended chief designer Mike Coughlan.

Three-time world champion Stewart added: "I'm not saying that there hasn't been wrongdoing.

"But to start witch-hunting and trying to implicate a team principal (Dennis) to a level that is currently going on, I think is negative to the sport."

[BradSpeedMan]

cristiano84, on Sep 11 2007, 10:59 AM, said:

Sir Jackie Stewart has claimed world motorsport bosses are biased towards Ferrari in the McLaren 'spygate' row.
McLaren go before the World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Thursday amid claims that new evidence could lead to Ron Dennis's team being punished.

But Stewart accused F1's governing body of mounting a "witch-hunt" against Dennis which would backfire on them.

"It seems some of the most powerful people (in F1) are more aligned to Ferrari than anybody else," he said.

"The FIA have historically been very close to Ferrari, closer to them than anyone else.

"There are more Ferrari representatives on the World Council than anybody else."

  
There's been a transfer of information going on since 1950, when modern Formula One began

Sir Jackie Stewart  

Ferrari have accused McLaren of benefiting from a 780-page dossier of information sent by former performance director Nigel Stepney to McLaren's now-suspended chief designer Mike Coughlan.

Three-time world champion Stewart added: "I'm not saying that there hasn't been wrongdoing.

"But to start witch-hunting and trying to implicate a team principal (Dennis) to a level that is currently going on, I think is negative to the sport."

You hit the nail right on the head there Mr Jackie Stewart.... don't implicate the team principal to that level.... but justice must done, if there's any wrongdoing done by the team, they must be punished. Thanks for the article cristiano84

[2//horns]

You could bold much more in that article,  

[cristiano84]

Briatore and Alonso in 2006, then now Stewart, Brundle and Williams...it seems quite evryone working in F.1 is aware of the FIArrari bias

[FUschumi]

cristiano84, on Sep 11 2007, 08:59 AM, said:

"There are more Ferrari representatives on the World Council than anybody else."

How can FIA allow this to happen? Maybe Jackie Steward is wrong.

Edited by FUschumi, 11 September 2007 - 10:53 AM.

[cristiano84]

FUschumi, on Sep 11 2007, 10:53 AM, said:

How can FIA allow this to happen? Maybe Jackie Steward is wrong.

        

[Rainmaster]

The flying scot certainly knows his stuff...

Edited by rainmaster, 11 September 2007 - 09:39 PM.

[Eric]

cristiano84, on Sep 11 2007, 06:43 AM, said:

Briatore and Alonso in 2006, then now Stewart, Brundle and Williams...it seems quite evryone working in F.1 is aware of the FIArrari bias

Boo hoo.  Their lives must be sooo tough.  I feel so sympathetic for Briatore and Alonso.  Poor, starving, blue collar manual laborers out on the street corner with no money for food, and then big bad Ferrari just ruins their lives.  It must suck to be World Champions...

Yeah, Renault got some unfair penalties, but it was to tighten the points battle, I'm sure if it was Kimi Raikkonen's McLaren that far out, they would've done the same.  It's contrived entertainment.  Deal with it.  Just coincidence.

If the FIA really wanted Ferrari to win in 06, Ferrari would've.  But they didn't.

FUschumi, on Sep 11 2007, 06:53 AM, said:

How can FIA allow this to happen? Maybe Jackie Steward is wrong.

Awww....it's sooo sad...this world is just too cruel...let's end our lives right now so we dont have to go through the pain...

Life's tough.  Wear a helmet.  Actually don't.  A good hit in the head could knock some sense into you.  Or disable you from ever using a computer again.

[elgo]

[cristiano84]

Eric, on Sep 11 2007, 09:35 PM, said:

If the FIA really wanted Ferrari to win in 06, Ferrari would've.  But they didn't.

Ferrari didn't win because Schumacher broke down in Japan and certainly the FIA couldn't have helped him

Poor guy, do you still believe in coincidence? Do you know how many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS do Ferrari bring to F.1 every year thanks to TV deals?!?! This is the real world. It sucks because money are everything but F.1 is nowhere near outside of it.

[Eric]

cristiano84, on Sep 11 2007, 06:26 PM, said:

Ferrari didn't win because Schumacher broke down in Japan and certainly the FIA couldn't have helped him

Poor guy, do you still believe in coincidence? Do you know how many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS do Ferrari bring to F.1 every year thanks to TV deals?!?! This is the real world. It sucks because money are everything but F.1 is nowhere near outside of it.

But if the FIA were as extreme as you portray them to be, they would've like found some random reason to fine Fernando 14 points so Michael won.

[cristiano84]

Eric, on Sep 11 2007, 10:34 PM, said:

But if the FIA were as extreme as you portray them to be, they would've like found some random reason to fine Fernando 14 points so Michael won.

I suppose there's a limit also for them...but I would like them to overtake it in the future so everyone will figure out where the truth lies...

[Rainmaster]

cristiano84, on Sep 11 2007, 11:26 PM, said:

Ferrari didn't win because Schumacher broke down in Japan and certainly the FIA couldn't have helped him

Poor guy, do you still believe in coincidence? Do you know how many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS do Ferrari bring to F.1 every year thanks to TV deals?!?! This is the real world. It sucks because money are everything but F.1 is nowhere near outside of it.

now be honest here, is that the first time you've spelled ferrari correctly in any of your posts, perhaps there is still hope for you...

then again, thinking about it, who owns ferrari - that's right















FIAT

[elgo]

yeah,rainmaster,that's why he calls them like that!   

Edited by elgo, 11 September 2007 - 10:41 PM.

[Rainmaster]

elgo, on Sep 11 2007, 11:41 PM, said:

yeah,rainmaster,that's why he calls them like that!   

haha! lol, all is clear now!

[goferrarigo]

rainmaster, on Sep 11 2007, 05:40 PM, said:

now be honest here, is that the first time you've spelled ferrari correctly in any of your posts, perhaps there is still hope for you...

then again, thinking about it, who owns ferrari - that's right

FIAT

Thats great rainmaster, give them more ideas now you will see more screwed up words from them....

[Rainmaster]

goferrarigo, on Sep 12 2007, 01:24 AM, said:

Thats great rainmaster, give them more ideas now you will see more screwed up words from them....

erm...i don't see how it can get much worse to be honest.

[goferrarigo]

rainmaster, on Sep 11 2007, 07:31 PM, said:

erm...i don't see how it can get much worse to be honest.

Ohh trust me... it can....

[Rainmaster]

double post

Edited by rainmaster, 12 September 2007 - 12:50 AM.

[Rainmaster]

goferrarigo, on Sep 12 2007, 01:35 AM, said:

Ohh trust me... it can....

your right actually, imagine if Mclaren are punished, the threads wud be endless

Edited by rainmaster, 12 September 2007 - 12:49 AM.

[goferrarigo]

rainmaster, on Sep 11 2007, 07:48 PM, said:

your right actually, imagine if Mclaren are punished, the threads wud be endless

Yes, one title i predict right now. Do you think justice was given, irrespective of whose favor.....

[Eric]

CUNZPEERAZY UHLIRT:
FU Schumi is Mike Coughlan, and christiano84 is Nigel Stepney.
END CUNZPEERAZY THEERY HEER.

[Oli]

Eric, on Sep 12 2007, 01:26 AM, said:

CUNZPEERAZY UHLIRT:
FU Schumi is Mike Coughlan, and christiano84 is Nigel Stepney.
END CUNZPEERAZY THEERY HEER.

How dare you blacken the good names of Coughlan and Stepney. I'll see you in court!

[Eric]

Oli, on Sep 11 2007, 09:36 PM, said:

How dare you blacken the good names of Coughlan and Stepney. I'll see you in court!

      

[jerry09]

i don't understand

dossier de surendettement

Edited by jerry09, 21 April 2009 - 09:21 AM.

[monza gorilla]

Obviously.

[Jean Todt]

rainmaster, on Sep 11 2007, 11:40 PM, said:

now be honest here, is that the first time you've spelled ferrari correctly in any of your posts, perhaps there is still hope for you...

then again, thinking about it, who owns ferrari - that's right















FIAT

FIX IT AGAIN TONY?

[maure]

cristiano84, on Sep 11 2007, 08:59 AM, said:

Sir Jackie Stewart has claimed world motorsport bosses are biased towards Ferrari in the McLaren 'spygate' row.
McLaren go before the World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Thursday amid claims that new evidence could lead to Ron Dennis's team being punished.

But Stewart accused F1's governing body of mounting a "witch-hunt" against Dennis which would backfire on them.

"It seems some of the most powerful people (in F1) are more aligned to Ferrari than anybody else," he said.

"The FIA have historically been very close to Ferrari, closer to them than anyone else.

"There are more Ferrari representatives on the World Council than anybody else."

  
There's been a transfer of information going on since 1950, when modern Formula One began

Sir Jackie Stewart  

Ferrari have accused McLaren of benefiting from a 780-page dossier of information sent by former performance director Nigel Stepney to McLaren's now-suspended chief designer Mike Coughlan.

Three-time world champion Stewart added: "I'm not saying that there hasn't been wrongdoing.

"But to start witch-hunting and trying to implicate a team principal (Dennis) to a level that is currently going on, I think is negative to the sport."

Stewart better have "URL's pointing to credible sources" or the eager beavers in the forum will accuse him of slander... which, naturally, is quite amusing.

Anyway, what else is new. FIA is corrupt to the core and, based on what we've seen of late, run by a demented bunch, orgies notwithstanding.

And so, it is hilarious when you hear of those "fans" that still trust the integrity of Whiting, Mosley, Ecclestone or the decisions of stewards, appeal courts, technical boards. It's all a sham, a scam, one day to "level" the field, the next to favour a particular driver or team, another to fill someone's pockets. FIA meddled, meddles, and will meddle.

As a competition, F1 is a joke.

What's left is seeing cars race for the heck of it. I settle for that, considering.

[AutoRacer5]

Why the bloody hell has a thread 18 months old been ressurected?

Mods, just lock it.

[The Rumble Strip]

Perhaps this is trying to prove that the resignation of Dennis should have no bearing on the forthcoming FIA hearing.