Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4 Report post Posted January 28, 2010 And the university involved in the CRU business was acting illegally by not honouring FoI requests: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8484385.stm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 3, 2010 UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and [rock climbing] magazine article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html Leaked climate change emails scientist 'hid' data flaws http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/01/leaked-emails-climate-jones-chinese Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 India forms new climate change body The Indian government has established its own body to monitor the effects of global warming because it “cannot rely” on the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the group headed by its own leading scientist Dr R.K Pachauri. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7157590/India-forms-new-climate-change-body.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 I'm afraid it is _you_. There are no vibes, negative or otherwise. The screams you hear _are_ in your head. Hold on tight and worry not... it's just a bad trip. It will pass. Give it time. Still waiting. What the f*ck Are you All chatting on About You bunch of Weirdos :clap3: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 Still waiting. Yet you are doing _something_... Dare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHS 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 Don't know if this has been posted here already, but apparently more people in the UK now believe that "Bl00dy 'ell it's freezing! Global warming? Pah!" Interesting stats. People more sceptical. See here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 The period of normal science can only last so long before the weight of opposing evidence leads to scientific revolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 Don't know if this has been posted here already, but apparently more people in the UK now believe that "Bl00dy 'ell it's freezing! Global warming? Pah!" Interesting stats. People more sceptical. See here. I read about it but didn't bother posting it. It's all a slippery slope when it comes down to what "people believe". Who are "people"? and what does "believe" really mean to "people"? In any case, yeah, the tide is turning... so that politicians will not be able to take as much advantage of the GW bullsht as they did once. It's high time for a new left-wing hysteria to cling on teeth and nails... fck, and some thought PC was bad enough. Just wait for the next poster child.... The period of normal science can only last so long before the weight of opposing evidence leads to scientific revolution. Actually, evidence leads to scientific evolution (revolution is for those eager to burn their own house down in order to prove the idiocy of their objectives) and, believe you me, true scientific investigation is a greedy btch. It is the advantage of real science. It cares nothing for what's not scientific and searches every dumpster with neurotic, almost autistic, devotion to find that tiny bit of data, evidence, or clue to push intellectual boundaries. On a side note, "Vestigies" out-sold "On the Origin of Species" for over a hundred years. So, hey. The expiration date for bad science (or what-such-ma-call-it) is, nowadays, within the tofu range. There is clear advantage. Bless the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHS 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 I think quite a lot of people are fed-up with it all. What with politicians putting the tax up on fuel for "our own good" when it comes to climate change, yet failing to reach an agreement in Copenhagen. Call me a Dinosaur, but arn't they just putting the wool over everyone's eyes but rising the taxes on stuff for the excuse of global warming/climate change? F*ck you, I'm not changing to a "green lifestyle" if you couldn't be bothered to get a deal together at Copenhagen. Can't be that bad, surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 Actually, evidence leads to scientific evolution (revolution is for those eager to burn their own house down in order to prove the idiocy of their objectives) and, believe you me, true scientific investigation is a greedy btch. It is the advantage of real science. It cares nothing for what's not scientific and searches every dumpster with neurotic, almost autistic, devotion to find that tiny bit of data, evidence, or clue to push intellectual boundaries. Yes. Revolution is no good. It's evolution what makes life better and better all the time. And I'm not talking about science exclusively, revolution is always a waste... Ok, sometimes necessary nonetheless. But only because we are just humans. Kill, kill, kill... Destroy... And there you have a blank sheet of paper, kind of red really, to start over. Sometimes it works, things get better and better but that is through evolution again. I think F1 needs a revolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 Yet you are doing _something_... Dare. Yeah, your mother ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted February 7, 2010 I was thinking more along the lines of Kuhn. @mika: oh no you didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 7, 2010 Yes. Revolution is no good. It's evolution what makes life better and better all the time. And I'm not talking about science exclusively, revolution is always a waste... Ok, sometimes necessary nonetheless. But only because we are just humans. Kill, kill, kill... Destroy... And there you have a blank sheet of paper, kind of red really, to start over. Sometimes it works, things get better and better but that is through evolution again. I think F1 needs a revolution. F1 first needs a swift (nearly meteoric) change of underpants and then a nuclear oven to smiter them far beyond complex molecules in to nothing more that atoms. In other words, proper sanitation followed by dedicated hygiene. Seriously, though, revolution never really works. You yourself have outlined the basics. Yeah, your mother ! Are we really going there? Mothers, ffs? Urban legend referred to as "moderator", please spank the child before I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted February 7, 2010 Are we really going there? Mothers, ffs? Urban legend referred to as "moderator", please spank the child before I do. Sorry but you pushed all of my buttons, oh wait you didn't push the you have a tiny wiener button or the you're a catholic priest from the 50s button! Confused much, now you know how I feel! @ Nivola oh yes I did & do every weekend when maures gone off to spread quadrohaemochamyphelia around the Japanese countryside & get high on fairtrade opium which isn't the best, go to a village 25 miles southwest of shanghai & you'll find the best ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Sorry but you pushed all of my buttons, oh wait you didn't push the you have a tiny wiener button or the you're a catholic priest from the 50s button! Confused much, now you know how I feel! @ Nivola oh yes I did & do every weekend when maures gone off to spread quadrohaemochamyphelia around the Japanese countryside & get high on fairtrade opium which isn't the best, go to a village 25 miles southwest of shanghai & you'll find the best ! Sorry... but?! What kind of repentance is that. Mike, Mike. You are young so I'll let it go and graciously accept your apologies on behalf of mothers everywhere. Your penance will take the form of a donation of a small sum of money from your pocket to a charity of your choice. I trust you to follow through. Do not let yourself down and get on with it. Report back here with details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 And now for Africagate Following an investigation by this blog (and with the story also told in The Sunday Times), another major "mistake" in the IPCC's benchmark Fourth Assessment Report has emerged. Similar in effect to the erroneous "2035" claim – the year the IPCC claimed that Himalayan glaciers were going to melt – in this instance we find that the IPCC has wrongly claimed that in some African countries, yields from rain-fed agriculture could be reduced by up to 50 percent by 2020. At best, this is a wild exaggeration, unsupported by any scientific research, referenced only to a report produced by a Canadian advocacy group, written by an obscure Moroccan academic who specialises in carbon trading, citing references which do not support his claims. You can read the rest of the article here: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/02/and-now-for-africagate.html The underlined part above is for those who need a "push" to get to the bottom of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medilloni 6 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 And now for Africagate .....................academic who specialises in carbon trading, citing references which do not support his claims. You can read the rest of the article here: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/02/and-now-for-africagate.html The underlined part above is for those who need a "push" to get to the bottom of this. Carbon Credits = The sole reason this farce has had such long legs.... political and financial agendas. I'm just surprised that scientists don't see why the public are turning away from Global Warming/Change/Whatever new name fits their 'measurement' of the Earth's natural cycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 And, yep, guess who is extraordinarily well positioned on the carbon trade... none other than Al Gore. Which brings to mind that it was Gore's family who got asbestos everywhere they could sell it, making a "killing" (both ways) out of it. Odd world? Nope. Odd humans? Yep, enough to fill a planet a few times over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Persevere 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 ...Odd world? Nope. Odd humans? Yep, enough to fill a planet a few times over. Excellent (he said, rubbing his hands gleefully). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Sorry... but?! What kind of repentance is that. Mike, Mike. You are young so I'll let it go and graciously accept your apologies on behalf of mothers everywhere. Your penance will take the form of a donation of a small sum of money from your pocket to a charity of your choice. I trust you to follow through. Do not let yourself down and get on with it. Report back here with details. Mike?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 http://www.sott.net/articles/show/202500-IPCC-climate-report-error-3-the-Netherlands-is-55-below-sea-level- Is that true? Maybe you've posted it already but are news in spain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Naturally, the consensus never existed but, hey, even imaginary hysterics deserve a laugh. There is No Frakking "Scientific Consensus" on Global Warming More Dodgy Citations in the Nobel-Winning Climate Report For the rest of the entry: http://nofrakkingconsensus.blogspot.com/2010/01/more-dodgy-citations-in-nobel-winning.html http://www.sott.net/articles/show/202500-IPCC-climate-report-error-3-the-Netherlands-is-55-below-sea-level- Is that true? Maybe you've posted it already but are news in spain. I've heard about it, yes, but had not found the source or link. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2010 The author of "There is No Frakking "Scientific Consensus" on Global Warming" has time in her hands: Greenpeace and the Nobel-Winning Climate Report Considered the climate Bible by governments around the world, the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report is meant to be a scientific analysis of the most authoritative research. Instead, it references literature generated by Greenpeace - an organization known more for headline-grabbing publicity stunts than sober-minded analysis. (Eight IPCC-cited Greenpeace publications are listed at the bottom of this post.) In one section of this Nobel-winning report, climate change is linked to coral reef degradation. The sole source for this claim? A Greenpeace report titled "Pacific in Peril" (see Hoegh-Guldberg below). Here the report relies on a Greenpeace document to establish the lower-end of an estimate involving solar power plants (Aringhoff). Continue reading here: http://nofrakkingconsensus.blogspot.com/2010/01/greenpeace-and-nobel-winning-climate_28.html And a big "come on!" to the climatecolytes. This is just fun stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 A friend sent me this doc. It's a few months old but amusing. Are we feeling warmer yet? Official temperature record... "This graph is the centrepiece of NIWA’s temperature claims" Actual thermometer readings... "The temperatures are remarkably constant way back to the 1850s" Why does NIWA’s graph show strong warming, but graphing their own raw data looks completely different? Their graph shows warming, but the actual temperature readings show none whatsoever! ... The shocking truth is that the oldest readings have been cranked way down and later readings artificially lifted to give a false impression of warming, as documented below. There is nothing in the station histories to warrant these adjustments and to date Dr Salinger and NIWA have not revealed why they did this. You can read the entire thing here: http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/docs/awfw/are-we-feeling-warmer-yet.htm By the way, it is possible to navigate some the directory structure of the site. There are more docs but I'll leave that to those interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4 Report post Posted March 2, 2010 Forgetting the debate around CO2/cause, even if GW is proven I've always maintained we may not be heading into a thermocalypse. Researchers in Stanford seem to agree on one aspect: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/22/stanford_warming_n_poverty_study/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
