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Jez

2009 Malaysian Gp (practice, Quali )

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If it rains the race's finished, at least if the rain is like Friday and Saturday. There's no much time for a red flag and a restart because of the lack of day light.

Spot on. Which is why we have to hope it does not rain at all, otherwise we won't have much of a race.

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If it rains, then Sutil might get some points, he'd just better hope that Kimi is'nt behind him! I think Vettel will drive like the clappers tomorrow as he's the 1 to watch!

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Don't know if anyone posted these yet but...

1. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 660kg

2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 656.5

3. Timo Glock, Toyota, 656.5

4. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 656

5. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 656

6. Robert Kubica, BMW-Sauber, 663

7. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 662.5

8. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn, 664.5

9. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 680.5

10. Nick Heidfeld, BMW-Sauber, 692

11. Kazuki Nakajima,Williams, 683.4

12. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 688

13. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 647

14. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 688.9

15. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 670.5

16. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 689.5

17. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 681.9

18. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 680.5

19. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 655.5

20. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 686.5

Looking at those weights Button should have a pretty easy time of it.

Looks like Vettel will want to make up as many places at the start, he'll be running possible 10 laps shorter than those around him, but he'll be lighter - should be fun.

Sutil's going surprisingly light too. Perhaps on the softer for a shorter first stint? Perhaps gambling on a safety car right after his firststop? Perhaps just trying something different and hoping he shaves an advantage out of it.

Other than that, fuel loads seem pretty ordered through the field.

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Not pitting for fuel sounds like a load of crap. May or may not happen and i'll reserve judgement but that's taking a lot out of F1 imo. I know they may need to change tires but then every pit stop will be 4 seconds long and it'll be s##te.

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Dribs - I think we all agree that the 'decor' is being discussed far too much and becoming invasive.

I would love to be able to concentrate purely on the racing.

As a long-time F1 follower, I hate the way the sport is being consumed by politics, bickering and whining.

Where we differ is that you would rather ignore all that and concentrate on what matters (I empathise - I really do), where as I fear that the petty politics is starting to matter more than the racing and to not discuss it would be (in a way) tantamount to complicity.

When stewards' opinions and decisions become more important to the final standings than the drivers and cars themselves, I begin to worry.

So you see, I'd rather not talk about all this diffuser bollocks, all the cheating McLaren bulls##t, the cost capping semi-spec series of the future, the stupid bloody WDC to be decided on wins idea, the constant restriction of true technological development. I really would rather forget all that s##t.

When I discuss the circus around every race, I do it with a bitter taste in my mouth. It's not that I want to be talking about it, it's that I find I have little other choice.

Discussing the politics is more bearable when it's with people who have the mental capacity for logical debate. I apologise if you saw my criticism of discussing them as some sort of dig at you specifically.

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Not pitting for fuel sounds like a load of crap. May or may not happen and i'll reserve judgement but that's taking a lot out of F1 imo. I know they may need to change tires but then every pit stop will be 4 seconds long and it'll be s##te.

It wasn't that long ago that refueling was introduced.

Discussing the politics is more bearable when it's with people who have the mental capacity for logical debate. I apologise if you saw my criticism of discussing them as some sort of dig at you specifically.

No worries drib - I didn't take it as a dig at me - and actually I agree with your sentiment.

I guess it's not whether we discuss these things or not, it's how we discuss them.

If people use these discussions only to bash their least favourite driver/team ad nauseum or bring petty fanboyism into play then it does indeed become pointless.

If the politics can be discussed regards it's effect on F1 as a whole, I think it's worth debate.

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Not pitting for fuel sounds like a load of crap. May or may not happen and i'll reserve judgement but that's taking a lot out of F1 imo. I know they may need to change tires but then every pit stop will be 4 seconds long and it'll be s##te.

Agree

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