Jb Vs Rb

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Thankyou narain fan. I expect you'll soon come to realise (not from me) that being called narain fan might not be so wise in this harsh cruel forum!

[cavallino 2]

on the contrary it may be a wise move indeed seeing how Taku and Sato have ended up as moderators.

For the record I think Button is a fairly good driver, and should roll all over Barrichello if he wants to confirm my fairly high opinion of him. However as a person he appears to be a complete idiot, and the fact that he has gone public with his stupidity so many times means he deserves all he is getting right now.

[bajo39 0]

JB is more a Media talent - not F1!!

JB is undoubtably a more successful marketing icon than Formula 1 driver. Nobody disputes this...

[Jenson_Rules 0]

**** of bajo! Hes more than just a pretty face and british, A LOT MORE!

[bajo39 0]

**** of bajo! Hes more than just a pretty face and british, A LOT MORE!

He's a very good driver Ben, but he's an excellent marketing icon. Just look at how enthralled the young British teenagers like yourself are with his celebrity.

[Jenson_Rules 0]

what, i dont give a **** about his celebrity! I give a **** about what his racings liek and thats all i care about and to me, hes brilliant and ever improving! And actually i know NO mates that like f1 or even know who he is, all this myth about him being popular amongst teenagers is bulls##t as half the country wouldnt even recognise him if he walked past them wearing a tshirt saying im jenson button on it!

[narain fan 0]

[quote name='bajo39' post='70934' date='Sep 22 2005, 08:42 PM']He's a very good driver Ben, but he's an excellent marketing icon. Just look at how enthralled the young British teenagers like yourself are with his celebrity.[/quote]he is not just a marketting ikon !!!!!!! no one would have cared had he not been an above average driver(to say the least!!!!!)

[bajo39 0]

what, i dont give a **** about his celebrity! I give a **** about what his racings liek and thats all i care about and to me, hes brilliant and ever improving! And actually i know NO mates that like f1 or even know who he is, all this myth about him being popular amongst teenagers is bulls##t as half the country wouldnt even recognise him if he walked past them wearing a tshirt saying im jenson button on it!

Notwithstanding his many overtaking maneuvors in Belgium, he's not much of a racer Ben.

[Jenson_Rules 0]

he is not just a marketting ikon !!!!!!! no one would have cared had he not been an above average driver(to say the least!!!!!)

i would nver have thought such accurate opinions and thoughts would come from a karthikeyan fan! I like you!

Notwithstanding his many overtaking maneuvors in Belgium, he's not much of a racer Ben.

hes shwon throughout this year he is a determined racer, not just belgium!

[bajo39 0]

hes shwon throughout this year he is a determined racer, not just belgium!

He has done quite a lot of passing which is good but his lack of defensive abilities were on display throughout the season...

[Jenson_Rules 0]

bajo, shut up! Stop deliberately p**sing me off!

[narain fan 0]

hes shwon throughout this year he is a determined racer, not just belgium!

my opinions come from grey cells in my head .and i am a narain fan at heart .both are different.

i have already mentioned in an earlier post that next year narain may not find a seat in f1 (though i prey otherwise). so next year most probably i will be called "kimi fan"(finally i will have something to cheer about )so remember then that this guy was "narain fan "last season.

[bajo39 0]

my opinions come from grey cells in my head .and i am a narain fan at heart .both are different.

i have already mentioned in an earlier post that next year narain may not find a seat in f1 (though i prey otherwise). so next year most probably i will be called "kimi fan"(finally i will have something to cheer about )so remember then that this guy was "narain fan "last season.

A fair weather fan then? I suspected your lot lacked commitment...

[Jenson_Rules 0]

lol! Note taken!

[narain fan 0]

A fair weather fan then? I suspected your lot lacked commitment...

not a fair weather fan neither lack commitment. i have been following narain since 97& kimi since 2001. so i am part of kimi fan club anyways.and i assure you(from my following narain for 7 yrs)that he looks so bad coz he is pushing a car that is not competitive to the limit.while his teammate just dozed off inside the car.

[bajo39 0]

and i assure you(from my following narain for 7 yrs)that he looks so bad coz he is pushing a car that is not competitive to the limit.while his teammate just dozed off inside the car.

Well if his team-mate has managed to outperform Narain in record-setting fashion while asleep then he really must be something! I don't think he is though, I just think Narain is really bad and is making him look good.

[Senna 0]

He has done quite a lot of passing which is good but his lack of defensive abilities were on display throughout the season...

Spectacular passing manoeuvres! We were treated to several moves at Germany, Turkey and Spa! He does need to improve his defensive driving ability though but one of the reasons he has not refined this skill is because he is rarely pressured by the other competitors, there are not many instances where a considerably faster car is behind him

[nojvnof1 0]

At the moment its 2 against about 25

oh don't make it out as if you've got it as bad as the JV fans have had it for the last few years

He's a very good driver Ben, but he's an excellent marketing icon.

well put Dan. I think JB will be like Coulthard, Barrichello etc. He'll win a few races, but he won't be Champion.

[Shadow 0]

well put Dan. I think JB will be like Coulthard, Barrichello etc. He'll win a few races, but he won't be Champion.

i'll look at his performance in the next two years( and ofcourse BAR-an important factor no doubt) before a conclusion like that, because you know one year with the best car and an element of luck might do the trick

[Senna 0]

i'll look at his performance in the next two years( and ofcourse BAR-an important factor no doubt) before a conclusion like that, because you know one year with the best car and an element of luck might do the trick

Quite, just look at 1997 with JV in the Williams FW19

[bajo39 0]

i'll look at his performance in the next two years( and ofcourse BAR-an important factor no doubt) before a conclusion like that, because you know one year with the best car and an element of luck might do the trick

Why not just wait till he either becomes champion or retires?

[schumi13 0]

Please I beg everyone not to reply to this topic - we've argued over this so much I feel like doing this

Lets just see what happens next year. No doubt everyone thinks Button is total crap except me, Jenson_Rules, and Senna

I don't think he is crap. He is good but not brilliant. I don't think he will become a world champion but he can win a bunch of races in his F1 career. He would just fall below a Coulthard in his countless failed attempts in perfect machinery to win a world championship. Unfortunately only the greats can do that.

[Senna 0]

I don't think he is crap. He is good but not brilliant. I don't think he will become a world champion but he can win a bunch of races in his F1 career. He would just fall below a Coulthard in his countless failed attempts in perfect machinery to win a world championship. Unfortunately only the greats can do that.

I'm afraid that you're showing your ignorance once more. DC had a couple of seasons in a world championship winning car, no more, however he has faced team-mates of the calibre of Damon Hill, Mika Hakkinen and Kimi Raikkonen and DC couldn't beat them, and not many drivers could so this is baseless criticism. It is absolutely pointless to speculate whether Jenson has the potential to become world champion. However, despite what you may think several lesser/equal talents have won the championship in exceptional cars in the past, JV is a good example, so even though Jenson is clearly not the best driver in F1, he still has a chance.

[narain fan 0]

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I'm afraid that you're showing your ignorance once more. DC had a couple of seasons in a world championship winning car, no more, however he has faced team-mates of the calibre of Damon Hill, Mika Hakkinen and Kimi Raikkonen and DC couldn't beat them, and not many drivers could so this is baseless criticism. It is absolutely pointless to speculate whether Jenson has the potential to become world champion. However, despite what you may think several lesser/equal talents have won the championship in exceptional cars in the past, JV is a good example, so even though Jenson is clearly not the best driver in F1, he still has a chance.

fully agree!!!!!!(only on this one though).and jem!who said everyone thinks button is crap!!!!!

[bajo39 0]

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I'm afraid that you're showing your ignorance once more. DC had a couple of seasons in a world championship winning car, no more, however he has faced team-mates of the calibre of Damon Hill, Mika Hakkinen and Kimi Raikkonen and DC couldn't beat them, and not many drivers could so this is baseless criticism. It is absolutely pointless to speculate whether Jenson has the potential to become world champion. However, despite what you may think several lesser/equal talents have won the championship in exceptional cars in the past, JV is a good example, so even though Jenson is clearly not the best driver in F1, he still has a chance.

fully agree!!!!!!(only on this one though).and jem!who said everyone thinks button is crap!!!!!

That's the spirit Narain, don't let jemstride get away with anything!