Kolles Attacks Str's V10 Plans

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KOLLES ATTACKS STR'S V10 PLANS

ITV

Midland F1 MD Colin Kolles says that Scuderia Toro Rosso will break Formula 1 rules if it uses restricted Cosworth V10 engines in 2006.

The rules call for the use of 2.4-litre V8 engines this year, effectively ruling out the use of 3-litre V10 engines

[ben_3001 0]

I find it bizare that STR say they don't have the money for a V8 as well.....

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I find it bizare that STR say they don't have the money for a V8 as well.....

Yes, it

[5P33D3V1L 0]

Well I think STR should have V8s. Them having V 10 is just plan taking liberties. I dont care bout STR. They seem in my eyes another group in the pack.

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Only V8 engines should be permitted. STR have strong financial backing from RB, they have no excuse for not conforming to the regulations.

[ben_3001 0]

Only V8 engines should be permitted. STR have strong financial backing from RB, they have no excuse for not conforming to the regulations.

Yup but it's too late now, the whole chassis has been built around the limited v10! Another win for the FIA!!

[michelfx 0]

Yup but it's too late now, the whole chassis has been built around the limited v10! Another win for the FIA!!

Bolt a freakin' V8 in the back of it, they're a dime a dozen. It's unacceptable. Make them sit out the races if they need more time. Who do you think you are? Get out of my face you clowns!

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Well said Kolles!

This FIA concession should never have been allowed in the first place.

Just how many massive blunders does Moseley need to preside over before he's fired?

Minardi were always at the back of the pack. If STR are anything other than last in 2006, then Moseley will be responsible for turning F1 into even more of a farce. If STR are last, it'll be another farce....they shouldn't be in F1 (bring back the qualifying rule which excludes slow cars).

And if an STR car interferes with the front runners (collision, obstruction, whatever) It'll be a tragic farce.

Whichever way, it's a farce, farce, farce, farce.

Moseley OUT!!!!!!!

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For $&%^ sake if super aguri can take an old car and make it race ready to specs 4 years after the year it was last raced in surely STR can bolt in a V8. No doubt it will not provide optimal performance but they could do it if forced.

Give them a 10000rpm limit and a 1in restrictor and watch them have a V8 in it the next day!!!! The FIA has reserved the right to modify V10 specs. Mosely should have some balls and do something productive for a change.

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Yup but it's too late now, the whole chassis has been built around the limited v10! Another win for the FIA!!

Doesnt matter, a V8 can easily be made to fit into it. And its Stoddart's fault, don't blame the FIA.

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You sound like another victim of the English F1 media to blame Stoddy's folly on the FIA.

That fat $%#$%## tried everything in his power to ruin the sport.

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I suppose their only defence could be that the car was too late in it's development cycle when RB made the acquisition. I don't agree that it's correct though.

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Doesnt matter, a V8 can easily be made to fit into it. And its Stoddart's fault, don't blame the FIA

Oh boy! How the heck is this Stoddy's fault. Fact of the matter is that Minardi were still around and having to use a V8 could have ended the team. How was he to foresee that a buyer would come about in such quick time? The FIA should have made V8's mandatory once the buyout of Minardi by Red Bull was official, as the only reason the V10's were kept were for cash stricken teams like Minardi. Kolles is 100% correct in what he says.

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Doesnt matter, a V8 can easily be made to fit into it.

"Bewt it ard wiv an ammer", I suppose.

BTW, how does a quote of my previous post end up as "snip"?

Is this some code word for ........ well, I dunno.......

[michelfx 0]

"Bewt it ard wiv an ammer", I suppose.

BTW, how does a quote of my previous post end up as "snip"?

Is this some code word for ........ well, I dunno.......

LAZY CHEATERS BOLT A FREAKIN' V8 IN THE BACK OF IT OR STAY HOME!!

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Oh boy! How the heck is this Stoddy's fault. Fact of the matter is that Minardi were still around and having to use a V8 could have ended the team. How was he to foresee that a buyer would come about in such quick time? The FIA should have made V8's mandatory once the buyout of Minardi by Red Bull was official, as the only reason the V10's were kept were for cash stricken teams like Minardi. Kolles is 100% correct in what he says.

Well why did he first worm out that agreement and then sell his team? And if he was selling his team why didn't he do the right thing by getting rid of that rule, the other manufacturers would have agreed anyway. He was already talking to plenty of buyers, it was just a matter of finding the right one. the FIA cannot chaneg the rule by themselves once it had been decided to allow V10s for teams with less cash. The FIA cannot make such arbitrary changes to the rules especially that late, whatever people may tell you. It was upto Stoddart to make sure that the rule was removed now that he was selling out, or for Red Bull to do the right thing.

"Bewt it ard wiv an ammer", I suppose.

How on earth do you think all the teams were testing their V8s before their new cars came out.

BTW, how does a quote of my previous post end up as "snip"?

deliberate. no point quoting such a long post and wasting space.

I suppose their only defence could be that the car was too late in it's development cycle

Development? Minardi couldn't afford development, they brought in a new car last year, they would probably continued with that with minor modifications.

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Well why did he first worm out that agreement and then sell his team? And if he was selling his team why didn't he do the right thing by getting rid of that rule, the other manufacturers would have agreed anyway. He was already talking to plenty of buyers, it was just a matter of finding the right one. the FIA cannot chaneg the rule by themselves once it had been decided to allow V10s for teams with less cash. The FIA cannot make such arbitrary changes to the rules especially that late, whatever people may tell you. It was upto Stoddart to make sure that the rule was removed now that he was selling out, or for Red Bull to do the right thing.

How on earth do you think all the teams were testing their V8s before their new cars came out.

deliberate. no point quoting such a long post and wasting space.

Development? Minardi couldn't afford development, they brought in a new car last year, they would probably continued with that with minor modifications.

Exactly

[F1 FANatic 1]

just give MF1 v10s and let the issue die. and while your at it you can give SAR v12s, theyd still be a second slowere then both STR and MF1. really, after Manardi and jordan left, the back of the grid became a joke.

atleast those two teams cared about the sport. the new ones dont

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If I had my way, it'd be twelve cylinders minimum.

Go-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-d I love the sound they make!

The last V12 Ferrari was worth the trek to a circuit for no other reason than just to hear that engine.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[nojvnof1 0]

Well why did he first worm out that agreement and then sell his team?

Because an offer finally came about that was a win win situation. The right buyer came along who would both save the team and keep it's personnel and factory in Faenza. He didn't worm out of anything. It's not as if Paul could foresee that he was going to sell so soon after the agreement. For all we know he was probably intending to remain next year, but he has always said that if the right buyer came along who could propel the team forward, he'd go, and he was true to his word.

He was already talking to plenty of buyers, it was just a matter of finding the right one.

See above.

[Taku 0]

Well why did he first worm out that agreement and then sell his team? And if he was selling his team why didn't he do the right thing by getting rid of that rule, the other manufacturers would have agreed anyway. He was already talking to plenty of buyers, it was just a matter of finding the right one. the FIA cannot chaneg the rule by themselves once it had been decided to allow V10s for teams with less cash. The FIA cannot make such arbitrary changes to the rules especially that late, whatever people may tell you. It was upto Stoddart to make sure that the rule was removed now that he was selling out, or for Red Bull to do the right thing.

you're joking right? stoddart had said on many occasions that he was constantly approached by buyers trying to make him an offer. i remember he said once in an interview that he said he had had up to 20 offers already, none of them turning out to be wort the paper they were printed on. so given that a lot of the people who offered to buy his team turned out to be less then trustworthy, you suggest he operate on the assumption that future rules changes won't affect his team as a going concern if he is in negotiations to sell?? that's ridiculous.

if that rule wasn't in place minardi would have gone bust that's for sure.

also, it wasn't and never will be the team bosses responsibility to set the rules. this is the fia's. the teams can try their best to influence the rule changes but in the end it comes down to the fia. blame the fia, not an ex-team boss who always did the right thing by his team.

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Well whatever I believe Stoddy had a pretty good idea that he was going to sell out soon, before he forced the teams to accept the rule. Now I am pretty sure the rule cannot be changed without the consent of all teams so even if we admit that Stoddart is a saint you cannot find a erason for blaming the FIA.

The FIA cannot force STR to run V8s, they'd love to if they could.

[gailen 0]

just give MF1 v10s and let the issue die. and while your at it you can give SAR v12s, theyd still be a second slowere then both STR and MF1. really, after Manardi and jordan left, the back of the grid became a joke.

atleast those two teams cared about the sport. the new ones dont

Yep - they cared so much that they went bankrupt (well almost).

Midland F1 racing is a team that cares believe me!

[narain fan 0]

Yep - they cared so much that they went bankrupt (well almost).

Midland F1 racing is a team that cares believe me!