Autumnpuma 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 The odds of someone actually breaking into your house while you are in it are extremely small. 99% of burglars break into peoples homes when there is no one at home. If someone were to break into my house i think my cricket bat would be more than enough to send the burglar to the hosbital with several broken bones and a cracked skull. You play cricket? Do you dress in the silly white uniform too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 You play cricket? Do you dress in the silly white uniform too? I used to play but i wasnt very good. I did however once take the wicket of a young NSW player who was a brilliant player and could hit a ball harder than you would ever believe. Oh and yes i did wear the white outfit which i personally dont find nearly as embarrassing as the traditional baseball outfit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schumikonen 2 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Not actually correct - what you're referring to there is a small part of the UK, not the whole of the UK, for example I don't think any such conflict has existed in England for a long while, we certainly have not had a war about it for a few hundred years, at least.I think you also need to examine other people's cultures a bit more - I am sure there is religious freedom in quite a few countries, there certainly is here and has been for a long time. I don't think you have any idea about religion in middle eastern countries, I know I certainly don't, but I doubt just saying you can worship whoever you want is going to solve the problem, I am sure it's a lot deeper routed than that. Also, you keep refeering to Jesus and that may be the foundation of your religion, but it may not be the foundation other peoples' religion. However, as I said earlier I don't think any war these days can be waged in the name of religion, it's an excuse not a reason. I am sure there are solutions, we just need to find them. I know that this is true, I mean what you say about Jesus but something is true, all prophecy in the bible is becoming a reallity speacilly the one about 666 something that maybe we all are using and don't realize that this is part of the bible prophecy, there is Israel as a nation tht is on the bible too, the bible said that Israel will become a nation in just one day and this time it will remain there until Jesus is back in the earth, I can tell you at lot more about this but we have to do another thread for this, about the solution I can tell you that man will only have peace in the world just when the antichrist is leading the world and will just be for a short time, you can believe it or not, but this will not change the reallity, we are all going to die one day and then will know if what we believe is real or not I can tell you that Jesus is real, is alive and you can find him if you want to, he is not away in heaven like many people thing, he said he will be we us until the end of the world and I used to demonstrate that there was not God, but I was wrong. And once again you are right saying that "it's an excuse not a reason" but we have that excuse in middle east right now killing people just because of the religion and not only there. I know like you said that is only a small part of UK btu what I meant is that is in that country and to me is amazing because UK is one of the most important country in the world with a long and rich history, that's why I took it as an example. man will never be happy and we will always have war, we fight each other even in our houses, in the street you see people stealing from other, and is the same that some countries try to do with the other, they fight for land, for oil, for religion, and sometimes (like Russia was doing in Afganistan and USA did in Iraq) they just fight to test weapons, it's crazy but is true how can that be changed in the whole world, people think different and that is what make the war, you see poeple fighting and killing each other just for a football game, how can we stop that? Crossed swords? In modern times, that has a rather gay ring to it...Sorry, which religion is that? Religion can be harmful? It's not a difficult argument to make thet religion is harmful for some of the reasons you mention and has historically done more harm than good... I believe in Jesus and I can tell you that no religion is good, maybe they do some good deeds, but in the end is harmful, not only in human terms, but spiritually speaking too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 I believe in Jesus and I can tell you that no religion is good, maybe they do some good deeds, but in the end is harmful, not only in human terms, but spiritually speaking too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schumikonen 2 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Sounds weird, I know, but Jesus is not another religion he is a person and he is alive, he is knocking the door of your heart and waiting for you to open it for him, he won't force the way in, he will only gets in your heart if you let him in. If you look closely any so called Christian religion and you know about the bible you will find that all of then do something against Jesus's teaching, because those are just that religions and if you follow any of those religions then you will find yourself doing those things against Jesus's teaching and I am talking about every so called Christian religion, I am a Christian but I try to do what is in the bible not what any religion says or teach because those are human teaching and commament and that's the reason why we got all kind of christians religions and they don't agree, because they follow not what the bible says but what they think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loser Boy 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Well since I've become reformed in my thinking that America is the problem with the world, I'd like for all of you to tell me of the wonders of your great nations and why I should stay in my dark hole or see the light. America is the Michael Schumacher of the world. Hated intensely by a few twats, loved immensely by the vast majority. If nobody believes me,please go & see the serpentine queues outside the US consulate in your country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 What a lovely analogy! I may steal that for future use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 America is the Michael Schumacher of the world. Hated intensely by a few twats, loved immensely by the vast majority. If nobody believes me,please go & see the serpentine queues outside the US consulate in your country. So according to you America also cheat at every opportunity when they feel the slightest bit of pressure? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Against a burglar, I'd rather have a gun than a baseball bat. And what if the burglar has a gun too? You Call of Duty skills not withstanding, they can shoot better. Schumikonen, I think you are inviting questions now if you air your beliefs like that. Start with me, let us forget all your preaching. How do you convince a person brought up without religion in their life, doing fine iwthout it, and seeing no reason to believe in such a thing, how do you convince someone that not only is your religion valid, that it is more valid than any other, and how do you convince them to believe an old book someone wrote as the truth and the only truth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AutoRacer5 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 And what if the burglar has a gun too? Your Call of Duty skills not withstanding, they can shoot better. I have a very quick reaction time, I think that I can shoot like how I do in deathmatches. If it moves, it dies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 I think I will leave our NRA friends to explain to you how poor that analogy is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 I have a very quick reaction time, I think that I can shoot like how I do in deathmatches. If it moves, it dies. Criminals seldom have any proper firearms training... I expect you go to the range regularly? If you haven't been to a shooting range, Cav, I would suggest to you that shooting accurately is very difficult. As a test, the instructor I was with when I went to the range asked me to fire off a full clip from a Colt 45 as fast as I could at a target about 10 feet away. I did just that and hit the target twice, once in the shoulder and the other time in the stomach... That was shooting at a stationary target from 10 feet away! If AR has much experience shooting, he's more than likely going to be blasting away the opposition in a firefight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autumnpuma 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 I think I will leave our NRA friends to explain to you how poor that analogy is. It's very hard to hit a target with a handgun without training; the slightest motion other than pulling the trigger will send the bullet significantly off the target. At the range, I practice shooting a S&W .45 Semi-auto at 5 targets (from 5 meters away) whilst running parallel to them. This is very difficult. You can compare this to trying to hit a burglar in your house whilst you and the burglar are moving. In the dark. While still groggy from sleep. It may be easier running at the burglar with a cricket bat, but what happens if you don't hit the burglar on the head? What if he moves and you hit on the back, instead? You are then close enough for that burglar, who may be on alcohol or drugs, to accost you. How confident are you now as the burglar has just hit you in the chest and is wrestling your cricket bat away from you? If you had a handgun, with proper training, you would be able to better defend your home and loved ones, regardless of what a burglar is armed with. Distance is your friend during a burglary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Thanks Mike. bajo - AR5's training (unless I am mistaken) consists of call of duty on an xbox360 with a gamepad. Of course I agree with you and Mike. And I am not anti guns, if that is what it takes. edit : removed personal info bit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 Thanks Mike.bajo - AR5's training (unless I am mistaken) consists of call of duty on an xbox360 with a gamepad. Of course I agree with you and Mike. And I am not anti guns, if that is what it takes. edit : removed personal info bit Where was your place, the one you referred to prior to your edit? The country will do, just curious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 moocow's country Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2006 moocow's country Ahhh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 To add to what Mike said, my 'home' defense is a .357 Tarus with a 6" barrel loaded with hydra-shocks. Realisticy you will only get one shot at an intruder(wheather it's a legal shooting is a whole 'nother thread) because if it is at night the muzzel flash will blind you on the first shot and you will be deaf, so you must make your one shot count, thus you gather your loved ones in a safe position and if the intruder invades you should have a reasonable chance to knock-em down with the one shot you have. This is why you also must use a pistol because it is more reliable in that situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 To add to what Mike said, my 'home' defense is a .357 Tarus with a 6" barrel loaded with hydra-shocks. Realisticy you will only get one shot at an intruder(wheather it's a legal shooting is a whole 'nother thread) because if it is at night the muzzel flash will blind you on the first shot and you will be deaf, so you must make your one shot count, thus you gather your loved ones in a safe position and if the intruder invades you should have a reasonable chance to knock-em down with the one shot you have.This is why you also must use a pistol because it is more reliable in that situation. If a home invasion occured i would take a cricket bat over a gun every time. In Australia it is unlikely for a run of the mill burgler to have a gun so a cricket bat would easily be enough to stop him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 To add to what Mike said, my 'home' defense is a .357 Tarus with a 6" barrel loaded with hydra-shocks. Realisticy you will only get one shot at an intruder(wheather it's a legal shooting is a whole 'nother thread) because if it is at night the muzzel flash will blind you on the first shot and you will be deaf, so you must make your one shot count, thus you gather your loved ones in a safe position and if the intruder invades you should have a reasonable chance to knock-em down with the one shot you have.This is why you also must use a pistol because it is more reliable in that situation. Indeed but AR is a young man and semi-auto's are cooler so a pistol will not do. Am I right, Chris? By the way, what are hydra-shocks? Some sort of non-lethal charge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 Geez, if it's that difficult to hit a stationary target at 10ft with a gun then I'm definitely going the cricket bat option!! Let's see, a bat is about 3ft, my arm is about 3ft.......I can easily lunge the rest of the distance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 Indeed but AR is a young man and semi-auto's are cooler so a pistol will not do. Am I right, Chris?By the way, what are hydra-shocks? Some sort of non-lethal charge? Hydra-shock are very lethal, they are a superiour hollow-point with a rod in the middle, they enter and imidiatly flatten out but the rod continues, the name says it all thjey create a shock wave that destroys your organs etc. without the chance of over penitration that could harm inocents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 Hydra-shock are very lethal, they are a superiour hollow-point with a rod in the middle, they enter and imidiatly flatten out but the rod continues, the name says it all thjey create a shock wave that destroys your organs etc. without the chance of over penitration that could harm inocents. Jesus Bruce, you're not messing around! I don't know if I'd be happy killing some house burglar... Presumably they are taking to such desperate measures because they are in desperate need of help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ykickamoocow 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 Jesus Bruce, you're not messing around! I don't know if I'd be happy killing some house burglar... Presumably they are taking to such desperate measures because they are in desperate need of help? Thats why the cricket bat works so well. You only injure the burgler instead of killing them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted November 1, 2006 Jesus Bruce, you're not messing around! I don't know if I'd be happy killing some house burglar... Presumably they are taking to such desperate measures because they are in desperate need of help? Only if they pose a threat, fuk them they can't have what I've worked hard for. http://www.le.atk.com/Interior.asp?section...istol_hydra.asp above is some info or just google hydra-shok bullets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites