The Eagles

[pabloh20 1]

Scary!

I wonder if anyone here has info on who was the inspiration for their favourite band - I mean for example, The Kinks inspired whatisname to form The Jam, but who/how/what-got-them-going inspired Pink Floyd, Jimmy Page, Johnny Duncan and all the other 'original singstists' mentioned so far?

As MG says below, the same influences as us, I guess. I do know Eric was inspired by the blues because he was an illegitimate child (and his Mother was living with them as his sister) and always felt as though he was out of place and his back was against the wall.

I would think it was the music they grew up with that influenced them, as it does all of us. I don't know specific instances. Well, maybe Jeff Lynne/John Lennon. Or Damon Albarn/Ray Davis. I get the impression that the blues plays a huge part in the musical development of the people we seem to listen to. By "we" I mean the likes of you ,me ,Mike, Steve, Paul et al. Chaps of a certain age, either mental or physical.

Could you replace age with capacity

[Medilloni 6]

I would think it was the music they grew up with that influenced them, as it does all of us. I don't know specific instances. Well, maybe Jeff Lynne/John Lennon. Or Damon Albarn/Ray Davis. I get the impression that the blues plays a huge part in the musical development of the people we seem to listen to. By "we" I mean the likes of you ,me ,Mike, Steve, Paul et al. Chaps of a certain age, either mental or physical.

Must be true Monza, just that there seems to have been such a leap (in technical ability, quality, originality etc) from Lonnie Donegan and the ilk, throught to Led Zep etc, and in such a short time. However, that could well be my memory being compressed due to the sheer weight of my brain cell.

Oh, and Pabloh, shouldn't there be an 'in' in front of 'capacity' for you? (mooning) (wonder if that works? it does in Skype)

Edit: No. The rather childish (mooning) feature doesn't appear to be working. Which is shameful imo.

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4]

Tell me about it. The 1980s was just the death of life. The most hideous cars ever produced (well actually, today's cars do rival that), the worst music, and god awful style.

Wash your mouth out young man!! lol The first half of the 80s was awesome, music-wise - a real creative period: Police, Ultravox, Eurythmics, Bowie (at his peak), Dire Straits, Icehouse (who? - ah well if you know them, you know they are good). Agreed the second half of the 80s sucked, largely because manufactured bands and Stock Aitken Waterman yuk

My childhood was a right musical mix - an elder brother 15 years older than me: The Who, Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Jethro Tull; next brother 10 years older than me: soul, Motown, reggae, punk (too many to mention); a sister who was into folk and juzz-funk (Airto Moroni, Flora Purim, Eberhard Webber and Al di Meola). My own tastes: punk, new wave, new romantics, plus a bit of all of the above. My first two records (when I was 6), I am ashamed to say were "leader of the gang" (Gary Glitter) and the Wombles song.... what can I say???

Currently listening to William Orbit, Frou Frou (Imogen Heaps) and Midge Ure (who is awesome, live).

[pabloh20 1]

Must be true Monza, just that there seems to have been such a leap (in technical ability, quality, originality etc) from Lonnie Donegan and the ilk, throught to Led Zep etc, and in such a short time. However, that could well be my memory being compressed due to the sheer weight of my brain cell.

Oh, and Pabloh, shouldn't there be an 'in' in front of 'capacity' for you? (mooning) (wonder if that works? it does in Skype)

Edit: No. The rather childish (mooning) feature doesn't appear to be working. Which is shameful imo.

I resemble that remark.

[monza gorilla 1]

Must be true Monza, just that there seems to have been such a leap (in technical ability, quality, originality etc) from Lonnie Donegan and the ilk, throught to Led Zep etc, and in such a short time. However, that could well be my memory being compressed due to the sheer weight of my brain cell.

Oh, and Pabloh, shouldn't there be an 'in' in front of 'capacity' for you? (mooning) (wonder if that works? it does in Skype)

Edit: No. The rather childish (mooning) feature doesn't appear to be working. Which is shameful imo.

Maybe the shift to a more professional approach? The advent of a TV in every home and a more affluent youth? I really haven't a clue. Except the poorer quality stuff tended to be in black and white.

[monza gorilla 1]

Wash your mouth out young man!! lol The first half of the 80s was awesome, music-wise - a real creative period: Police, Ultravox, Eurythmics, Bowie (at his peak), Dire Straits, Icehouse (who? - ah well if you know them, you know they are good). Agreed the second half of the 80s sucked, largely because manufactured bands and Stock Aitken Waterman yuk

My childhood was a right musical mix - an elder brother 15 years older than me: The Who, Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Jethro Tull; next brother 10 years older than me: soul, Motown, reggae, punk (too many to mention); a sister who was into folk and juzz-funk (Airto Moroni, Flora Purim, Eberhard Webber and Al di Meola). My own tastes: punk, new wave, new romantics, plus a bit of all of the above. My first two records (when I was 6), I am ashamed to say were "leader of the gang" (Gary Glitter) and the Wombles song.... what can I say???

Currently listening to William Orbit, Frou Frou (Imogen Heaps) and Midge Ure (who is awesome, live).

My word... You've prompted me to dust off the Brand X albums. Moroccan Roll, man.

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4]

My word... You've prompted me to dust off the Brand X albums. Moroccan Roll, man.

Blimey I am not worthy <bows> you are one the few people I know who have heard of them!

Phil at his best.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

My word... You've prompted me to dust off the Brand X albums. Moroccan Roll, man.

Has he who has seem to infected you actually said anything about the avatar...it's hilarious!

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4]

Tell me about it. The 1980s was just the death of life.

Ooh and Toyah Willcox.... I forgot about Toyah. Don't think her music got across the Atlantic, she figured in my adolescent fantasies

I have met her since and she still looks pretty good!

[monza gorilla 1]

Yeah. I would.

[monza gorilla 1]

Blimey I am not worthy <bows> you are one the few people I know who have heard of them!

Phil at his best.

You are the only person I know who has heard of them! They did the best bass duet I've ever heard. Wal to Wal. Sublime.

[monza gorilla 1]

Has he who has seem to infected you actually said anything about the avatar...it's hilarious!

I don't think he's noticed the eyes. .........maybe he really does look like that?

[dribbler 6]

Prince Sh#t...So continue being nostalgic, lads.

That's an incredibly bad generalisation, Eric. Prince has composed some simply brilliant music aswell as being a bitchin guitarist.

There are peaches in the '80's too, you just have to search a little harder. Tears For Fears album @songs From The Big Chair' is wonderful.

I call this my 'time of madness'.

Oh, i would love to see some pictures.

seems everyone was a fan of Pink Floyd once, including me....

Not me. I just can't understand why they have passed me by. It's should almost be illegal; I love prog', i smoked stuff....weird.

Woah, great thread Mike.

Bearing in mind that music brought up on isn't always what I liked, the sounds ringing from my sisters room were all Buddy Holly, Elvis and Cliff Richard/The Shadows. I hated them 'cos she like them - as brothers and sisters do.

Cream, The Kinks (loved the humour), Beatles, Stones, The Who (Hmm, nice), Fleetwood Mac (pre USA) - then when no-one was listening maybe some Dionne Warwick, Sonny and Cher, Little Richard and James Brown.

Through the hormones, Adam's apple and stained sheets right through to now (that's a wee while!), the following are those that have stood the test of time - and always played when: 1)When cooking/burning 2) To educate the kids 3) For head clearing purposes.............

...........Joe c#cker, Carole King, Procol Harum, The Velvet Underground, The Small Faces, Aretha Franklin, The Jam, James Taylor, Ray Charles, The Doors, Deep Purple, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Genesis, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Frank Zappa, ELO, Pink Floyd, Muddy Waters, Queen, The B-52's, Elvis Costello, Squeeze, ZZ Top, Joan Armatrading, Metallica - aw shucks, there's just too many iconic bands to list.

Fairport Convention anyone?

This is totally unfair. You can't just go rattling off all those excellent bands/artists without me being self indulgent too.

So, i guess although my roots are E.L.O. i have equal respect and try to listen to in equal proportion,

Captain Beefheart, Frank Zappa, Genesis, Led Zeppelin, Steve Hillage, Yes, Nick Drake, Prince, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Photek, Peter Gabriel, The Orb, Jimi Hendrix, Richie Havens, Otis Redding, Stevie Wonder, Goldie, The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Prodigy, Radiohead, Marvin Gaye, Macy Gray, Tangerine Dream, Focus, Jethro Tull, Grateful Dead, Cornelius, The Thrills, The Divine Comedy, Keane, Jeff Buckley, Foo Fighters, Janis Joplin, Fleetwood Mac, Gong, DJ Shadow, Mike Oldfield, Robert Randolph, Paco De Lucia, Ian Dury, Roxy Music, Michael Jackson, Antony And The Johnsons, Ben Folds, The Doors, E.L.P and Queen.

By "we" I mean the likes of you ,me ,Mike, Steve, Paul et al. Chaps of a certain age, either mental or physical.

If in depth thought or discussion floats your boat it seems to parallel a desire for the more demanding musical notation. Most of the people i have time for have great musical taste.

Ooh and Toyah Willcox.... I forgot about Toyah. Don't think her music got across the Atlantic, she figured in my adolescent fantasies

I have met her since and she still looks pretty good!

Where did her looks go? Ith's a mythstheree, to me.

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4]

Yeah. I would.

So would I, but my wife was there lol Actually I have met Toyah several times and did a couple of projects involving her and she is a giggle. Calls a spade an effing spade, but very natural and nice.

Last time I saw her was at the stage door of a theatre she had been playing in and she remembered me and came over and gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek - much to the chagrin of her assembled fans! The funniest thing was we had a chat and it was quite obvious she remembered me from... somewhere, but could not place me - so she finished the conversation with: "oh you must come over for some tea.... sometime..." with a quizzical look as if to say: Have I just invited an axe-wielding murderer around??? Suffice to say that subsequently I got a lot of mileage out of this (as my wife rolled her eyes) when I said "Toyah gave me a kiss AND invited me over for tea!!"

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4]

You are the only person I know who has heard of them! They did the best bass duet I've ever heard. Wal to Wal. Sublime.

Oooh yeah Percy Jones and John Giblin were bass gods - up there with Jaco Pastorius.

Have you ever listened to Al di Meola? There is one track of his that is very Brand X-esque: "From the Ocean to the Clouds"

[monza gorilla 1]

I've not heard that. Must check it out. Thanks for the tip.

[Autumnpuma 0]

Cream, The Kinks (loved the humour), Beatles, Stones, The Who (Hmm, nice), Fleetwood Mac (pre USA) - then when no-one was listening maybe some Dionne Warwick, Sonny and Cher, Little Richard and James Brown.

Quite a selection of roots! Excellent! Cream - Clapton at his most raw; gotta love it. Fleetwood Mac in the early years were very bluesy and fantastic to listen to, but the additon later of Buckingham put a whole new twist to the band. Sort of a 'musical wedgie' if you will.

Wash your mouth out young man!! lol The first half of the 80s was awesome, music-wise - a real creative period: Police, Ultravox, Eurythmics, Bowie (at his peak), Dire Straits, Icehouse (who? - ah well if you know them, you know they are good). Agreed the second half of the 80s sucked, largely because manufactured bands and Stock Aitken Waterman yuk

Ahh, Bowie. His sound was, and is, so unique. Mesmerizing. I would add the great punk bands of the early 80s; Black Flag (check out Henry Rollins' current monologues...fantastic stuff), Circle Jerks and TSOL. Of course The Clash and Ramones were still played as well. These were a blessed kick in the arse of the established musical sound.

Lonnie Donegan. If you dug at the roots of a great many artists, you'd find the name 'Lonnie Donegan' written quite frequently. Who couldn't listen to 'Wabash Cannonbal' or 'Red Island Line' without tapping your feet and feeling like you're on a rocketing train. Sheer brilliance.

[Eric 0]

A punker friend of mine told me once that it aint no real mohawk unless you use egg whites to stand it up. So, didja use egg whites?

I was actually told to use glue.

However, I found that hair gel worked better than glue seeing as its hard to do your hair with a glue stick...

[Medilloni 6]

Quite a selection of roots! Excellent! Cream - Clapton at his most raw; gotta love it. Fleetwood Mac in the early years were very bluesy and fantastic to listen to, but the additon later of Buckingham put a whole new twist to the band. Sort of a 'musical wedgie' if you will.

Ahh, Bowie. His sound was, and is, so unique. Mesmerizing. I would add the great punk bands of the early 80s; Black Flag (check out Henry Rollins' current monologues...fantastic stuff), Circle Jerks and TSOL. Of course The Clash and Ramones were still played as well. These were a blessed kick in the arse of the established musical sound.

Lonnie Donegan. If you dug at the roots of a great many artists, you'd find the name 'Lonnie Donegan' written quite frequently. Who couldn't listen to 'Wabash Cannonbal' or 'Red Island Line' without tapping your feet and feeling like you're on a rocketing train. Sheer brilliance.

Beautiful expression Mike (bold)! Bowie, how could I miss him out? Fleetwood Mac - pleased to say they got me into blues.

Our young 'un (he's 9) went to school yesterday dressed as a punk rocker - the school were having a 'music through the ages' day - and he took The Clash CD (the missus is a huge fan). He came home and said, "I don't get it, they taught us to jive and twist but all the teachers went mad when we put The Clash on". Mad, as in, very happy and doing a funny a funny dance that we worked out was pogo-ing. There's hope

Mohawk. Hair spray and Elephant sperm, you weren't a true punk otherwise.

[Autumnpuma 0]

Outstanding! Hopefully the CD was "Give 'em enough rope". Amusing that back in the heyday bringing The Clash into class would have upset the teachers. Now they applaud it. Mission accomplished.

I was just remembering that Lonnie Donegan probably could be credited with the Eagles' song "Midnight Flyer". Even though it was written by a Nashville guy named Craft, no doubt the inspiration came from Donegan.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Captain Beefheart, Frank Zappa, Genesis, Led Zeppelin, Steve Hillage, Yes, Nick Drake, Prince, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Photek, Peter Gabriel, The Orb, Jimi Hendrix, Richie Havens, Otis Redding, Stevie Wonder, Goldie, The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Prodigy, Radiohead, Marvin Gaye, Macy Gray, Tangerine Dream, Focus, Jethro Tull, Grateful Dead, Cornelius, The Thrills, The Divine Comedy, Keane, Jeff Buckley, Foo Fighters, Janis Joplin, Fleetwood Mac, Gong, DJ Shadow, Mike Oldfield, Robert Randolph, Paco De Lucia, Ian Dury, Roxy Music, Michael Jackson, Antony And The Johnsons, Ben Folds, The Doors, E.L.P and Queen.

You prolly forgot to mention the Verve....

[devilsinskirtsisback 0]

On the original question - I started digging music in the 80's and even at that young age was able to discern quite clearly that the majority of what was about was kaka. My roots therefore followed in a direction that sounded good to me (usually through my parents music) - The Beatles were the first root to take hold and from there I searched my way through huge swathes of 50's and 60's chart music. Slightly later the jangly guitar of Mr Johnny Marr and the Morrissey's wonderful lyrics pulled me back into the present, and probably laid down a separate root.

From there, I evolved into listening to a variety of albums by my fav 60's artists (Beatles, Hendrix, Dylan, The Byrds, Stones, Simon & Garfunkel) and followed that through to it's logical conclusion in the Seventies with bands like Pink Floyd and Led Zep (strictly 60's to start with but bear with me).

Along the way a variety of other influences have crept in there, basically if I like the sound of it I'll listen to it and I'll have no truck with being told I'm uncool (or whatever!) for listening to any type of music.

The roots will always lie with The Beatles though.

[Medilloni 6]

Outstanding! Hopefully the CD was "Give 'em enough rope". Amusing that back in the heyday bringing The Clash into class would have upset the teachers. Now they applaud it. Mission accomplished.

I was just remembering that Lonnie Donegan probably could be credited with the Eagles' song "Midnight Flyer". Even though it was written by a Nashville guy named Craft, no doubt the inspiration came from Donegan.

Not sure which Album to be honest Mike - except that she put a note in the case telling the teachers which had erm, 'language' lessons they could do without

Dead right about taking The Clash into school and upsetting teachers, now they're part of our culture all's well, just as long as they don't make any aspect of The Bay City Rollers acceptable

Weird all this talk about music from the dark and distant; my sister took her son to Glastonbury for this years festival for his 16th birthday - loads of bands over 3 days and though he really enjoyed it, he was amazed to come away thinking that Roger Daltrey, Pete Townsend and Paul Weller were the best live musicians, singers and entertainers out of the whole bunch.

[Argento Reloaded 1]

My chilhood was in the 70s and with brothers around 55 years old now I

[BradSpeedMan 6]

The Hotel California MTV unplugged version is terrific!

simply stunning....and absolute gem of a concert!